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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Re: Omr Subcages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by old man roger
neal ratted me out nags hasn't been on as much lately i thought i could pull a fast on on him
I didnt rat you out. Its not like if Nags didnt read my post, he wouldnt have known eventually. Its Nags, cmon

Originally Posted by Crazy D
Ok , this only tells you that the bike is charging when it is running . You said you have a GOOD battery , so that should'nt be the problem .

Somewhere there is a resistance that is not letting you get full juice to the starter .

When you hit the start button , it sends a signal to trigger power to the starter .

Your starter creates a high amp draw from your batt . If there is any resistance , it will cause you not to get a full draw to the starter .

The charger you are using is going around everything and acting as full power to the starter .

Are there solenoids on your bike , that current travels thru before it gets to the starter ?
I dont know if the battery is good anymore. When the motor cracked the battery was fine and I swapped my battery into one of my friends bikes and it started up fine. We swapped his & Mikes battery into my bike and my bike still did the same thing. Im hoping that the battery is toast now coz after swapping the wiring harness the other day, it seemed fine and started right up and started up when it was warm too, which was the initial problem. Im pretty sure theres a starter solenoid on F4i's, right?

Originally Posted by Crazy D
You can take a ohm meter and check the wiring that leads to the starter . Check between each connector . And while you are checking , wiggle the area you are checking .

Do this while the batt is disconnected . You are checking for ohm resistance.
Make sure all connector harness connect correctly , and all other connections are clean .
How should I check the wire that comes from the starter? What setting do I put on the ohm meter? The only thing Ive ever used the volt meter for was testing the battery and voltage. Hopefully the battery is shot now after trying to start it for 2.5 months and constantly draining it coz I'm tired of searching for ****** problems already
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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maybe cherry could put mikes plan into effect

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Re: Omr Subcages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by old duffer
maybe cherry could put mikes plan into effect
What is this plan you speak of?
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Re: Omr Subcages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Omr Subcages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by old duffer
maybe cherry could put mikes plan into effect
she just might want to now haha.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Re: Omr Subcages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by MikeM
MikeWJ: what voltage are you getting with the motor running?
Another thing you can do is start from the starter and work your way back . Using an ohm meter .

You say you have 12v at the starter .

MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT STANDING IN WATER OR TOUCHING THE BIKE GROUNDING YOURSELF TO IT .

First check the neg cable to ground with an ohm meter for 0 resistance .

Then do this .

Disconnect the battery .

disconnect the pos cable off starter . AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HANG AND TOUCH ANYTHING .

Reconnect battery .

Turn bike key on .

put the ohm meter , one side on pos cable . , other side to the ground , or something metal on the bike .

put the ohm meter to read voltage .

Hit the start button , and see if you are actually getting 12v thru the cable .

If you are not . You have found the problem .

Work your way back thru the connections till you get 12v .
When you find 12v , your resistance problem will be in front of this .

WHEN YOU DO THAT , MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO NOT TOUCH THE WIRES TO GROUND , WHEN YOU ARE HITTING THE START BUTTON .
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I'm sorry neal , i just saw that you posted . let me read your comments .
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Re: Omr Subcages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Crazy D
Another thing you can do is start from the starter and work your way back . Using an ohm meter .

You say you have 12v at the starter .

MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT STANDING IN WATER OR TOUCHING THE BIKE GROUNDING YOURSELF TO IT .

First check the neg cable to ground with an ohm meter for 0 resistance .

Then do this .

Disconnect the battery .

disconnect the pos cable off starter . AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HANG AND TOUCH ANYTHING .

Reconnect battery .

Turn bike key on .

put the ohm meter , one side on pos cable . , other side to the ground , or something metal on the bike .

put the ohm meter to read voltage .

Hit the start button , and see if you are actually getting 12v thru the cable .

If you are not . You have found the problem .

Work your way back thru the connections till you get 12v .
When you find 12v , your resistance problem will be in front of this .

WHEN YOU DO THAT , MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO NOT TOUCH THE WIRES TO GROUND , WHEN YOU ARE HITTING THE START BUTTON .
In this case youre saying the cable would be bad, right? Which I dont see that being the case because we swapped the cables with the motors and I just swapped the complete wiring harness
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Re: Omr Subcages !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe mike said you changed the neg cable so i would say that is ok and not the problem .

I am still reading your comments above . brb
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So you changed all the wiring . I did not notice this . My explaination was for checking the wiring .
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Originally Posted by Crazy D
So you changed all the wiring . I did not notice this . My explaination was for checking the wiring .
yup i swapped the complete wiring harness the other day and it started right up and when i turned the bike off it started right up even warm, which was the initial problem. but today the problem started all over again and im not sure if the battery is drained and just dead or its something else. i dont know what else it could be coz everything has been swapped already
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Neal . i bet youre gonna say i got a chicago accent , and i'm from Chi- CAAHHGG-o
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I hope it all works out for ya .
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I'm tired
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Neal . i bet youre gonna say i got a chicago accent , and i'm from Chi- CAAHHGG-o
not as bad as i wouldve thought lol. Im sure I sound like a typical NY'er to you tho haha. Ive spoke to some people on here that sounded nothing like I wouldve expected
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Originally Posted by Crazy D
I hope it all works out for ya .
Thanks bro. I'll let you know whats up tomorrow.
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I'm tired
Go to sleep then - duh.

Im out for a few. D - thanks for your help brotha. I'll let you know whats up manana.

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