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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scott3824
thats my problem, what pisses me off is that all these people just stop paying and the companies say oh well how about you settle on 60% of your current mortgage
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by scott3824
+1

they don't want to do **** for those of us that were smart enough to get a 30yr fixed and never miss a payment, but are still struggling.
Then you bought a house you couldn't afford. What should they do for you?
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

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Then you bought a house you couldn't afford. What should they do for you?
oh jeeez not this debate again
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

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Then you bought a house you couldn't afford. What should they do for you?
I bought a house that I could and still can afford. I'm just pissed I can't get into a 30 year fixed like I planned to. When I got the first loan I figured I had 2 roomates paying most of the mortgage and by the time they moved out and the locked rate part of the ARM ran out I could get a 30 year fixed and since I would be making more money (I am) I would be all set.

Then home values dropped like a rock.....
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

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Flip got his house for $4,000. He owed like $40,000.

and people like us get fucked and are overpaying
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Then you bought a house you couldn't afford. What should they do for you?
If I couldn't afford it how have I not missed a payment
They should be fair, instead of giving all these deals and breaks to people that abuse the system maybe they should reward people that work hard.
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When you coming up to shoot? Bring the tank and bolts with you.
hopefully next week, i am trtying to get a piece lined up
Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by scott3824

and people like us get fucked and are overpaying
Originally Posted by scott3824
If I couldn't afford it how have I not missed a payment
They should be fair, instead of giving all these deals and breaks to people that abuse the system maybe they should reward people that work hard.
Not a democratic bone in your body.

You see the politician who is saying that since poor people suck at being parents and smart people are too smart to have kids they should increase the benefits for professional carrer holding people who have kids and offer $1,000 for any poor person who gets steralized(sp)? Must have watched Idiocracy one too many times.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...s.for.poor.cnn
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

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Not a democratic bone in your body.

You see the politician who is saying that since poor people suck at being parents and smart people are too smart to have kids they should increase the benefits for professional carrer holding people who have kids and offer $1,000 for any poor person who gets steralized(sp)? Must have watched Idiocracy one too many times.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...s.for.poor.cnn
Damn right. Democratics now are a bunch of pansy *** socialists.

That politician is a genius and I hope that becomes law lol.
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

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I bought a house that I could and still can afford. I'm just pissed I can't get into a 30 year fixed like I planned to. When I got the first loan I figured I had 2 roomates paying most of the mortgage and by the time they moved out and the locked rate part of the ARM ran out I could get a 30 year fixed and since I would be making more money (I am) I would be all set.

Then home values dropped like a rock.....
You got fucked by the market.
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heres what caused the whole housing shitfall.........

banks used to give you a mortgage at fair market value or below so your house was always worth more then you owed and those banks would hold that mortgage for the term of the loan or untill you sold the house and payed off the loan ..thats what they used to do !

now when you get a mortgage that loan is usually sold off to another company because for so many years it was a solid investment that any one with alot of money would be crazy not to want to invest in , well that created a market for loans ..

after a certain amount of time it got to a point where there were so many companies wanting in on the investment opportunity that banks and lending companies started giving loans to risky borrowers and people that clearly couldn't afford there mortgage but because the banks knew they could sell the loan and not have to risk any thing because they made money from originating the loan through closing cost and points and then sold the loan for more then they lent out ..

mortgage companies banks and lending companies started putting pressure on people to appraise houses at higher values because the market was skyrocketing and they knew they had buyers for the loans so they were just doing what ever they could to make more loans so they could sell them ..

eventually the cost of house were way out of proportion with income and when that happens the simple fact of that matter is people can no longer afford to pay there mortgage and that causes what we have going on now
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by scott3824
If I couldn't afford it how have I not missed a payment
They should be fair, instead of giving all these deals and breaks to people that abuse the system maybe they should reward people that work hard.
You said you were struggling.

Mortgages are a business. Why would they loan you more money than the house is worth now? That doesn't make sense. If you want to **** your credit and stop paying on your mortgage, go ahead. You'll get help because they would rather get some of their money than none of it. If they help everybody, they will go out of business.
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

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hopefully next week, i am trtying to get a piece lined up
.40 XDM. Buy it.
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.40 XDM. Buy it.
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I set my collection to 1%. I am going to keep it there until I am back on the $1,000/1DR earning rate I need to get the big dog endorsement.
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You got fucked by the market.
With no lube.
Originally Posted by old man roger
heres what caused the whole housing shitfall.........

banks used to give you a mortgage at fair market value or below so your house was always worth more then you owed and those banks would hold that mortgage for the term of the loan or untill you sold the house and payed off the loan ..thats what they used to do !

now when you get a mortgage that loan is usually sold off to another company because for so many years it was a solid investment that any one with alot of money would be crazy not to want to invest in , well that created a market for loans ..

after a certain amount of time it got to a point where there were so many companies wanting in on the investment opportunity that banks and lending companies started giving loans to risky borrowers and people that clearly couldn't afford there mortgage but because the banks knew they could sell the loan and not have to risk any thing because they made money from originating the loan through closing cost and points and then sold the loan for more then they lent out ..

mortgage companies banks and lending companies started putting pressure on people to appraise houses at higher values because the market was skyrocketing and they knew they had buyers for the loans so they were just doing what ever they could to make more loans so they could sell them ..

eventually the cost of house were way out of proportion with income and when that happens the simple fact of that matter is people can no longer afford to pay there mortgage and that causes what we have going on now
Originally Posted by Zuki750
You said you were struggling.

Mortgages are a business. Why would they loan you more money than the house is worth now? That doesn't make sense. If you want to **** your credit and stop paying on your mortgage, go ahead. You'll get help because they would rather get some of their money than none of it. If they help everybody, they will go out of business.
We understand that, but it still sucks to be the guy stuck paying the check once again for broke asses who are dumb with their money and want everything handed to them for free.
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

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****! I have to spend $400 on bike registration, truck registration, and nascar tickets by november 3rd.
Whats the breakdown on that? Over here its only like 20 bucks a year to renew a reg.
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by scott3824
Not sure how much more expensive the M is .... but how sweet is a 16+1 capacity :YEAH
It's not much more. I think it's still under $500 with 2 mags and a holster.
Originally Posted by MikeM
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