View Poll Results: Sickest Trick Winner....Fair or Not Fair?
Yes
7
17.95%
No
26
66.67%
Neutral- Does Not Matter if Somebody Crashes
6
15.38%
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StuntWars...Sickest Trick Winner-Fair or Not?????
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From: al
i think we need people like dan in the sport because he will try anything but u have got to execute your tricks to win comps and if u reward people for just crashing there bikes thats what u will see in the comps i was there and i dont know how i would have picked to win but it would have been someone who made a clean run
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From: Huntington Beach, CA
How many stunt riders out there do you know of right now that are doing switchback burnouts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only one last time I checked & previous to this comp i've already seen an ape hanger skitch done by several riders on the west coast so to me the switcback burnout off the rev limiter successfully was the sickest thing on the track that day then finishing with a backwards wheelie to flip gets my vote any day
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I have a hard time saying who would or wouldn't get my vote on that event. I am not sure what the Judges were voting on.
I watched the whole thing and the biggest input I can give is that we have had the "sickest trick" event at other events and that is exact what it is, a single trick that is insane, awesome, just plain SICK!
I saw MANY people during sickest trick doing a number of different tricks while out there and the event wasn't called "sickest run".
Now a combo is one thing, but when you do a trick in one direction, and then do another trick coming back the other way, and then do ANOTHER trick back the other way again.....which one was the attempt at the sickest trick?
Cause if you do 2 or 3 runs, and each one is a different trick altogether, then it is no longer sickest trick, it is the sickest run down and back.(and for a few riders, back down the track again)
Examples of tricks executed:
-Josh did the same 1-handed-insane-draggin his *** behind the bike and heading for the wall both down the track and back. 2 attempts at the same trick.
-Mark from MPZ tried circle wheelies every attempt and finally hit it on the 5th try.....mad props and awesome talent, but how many tries were you supposed to have. I know they told him to try again and he hit it, but his actual attempts had expired and I am sure he was then doing it for the sake of nailing it, and he did.
-Steve and Cat from Evasive, he wheelied and she was standing backwards reaching backwards and holding on and lifted her legs up parallel to the ground, totally off the bike. I couldn't tell what they did coming back down the track toward us, bad angle.
-Cory from D-Aces made 2 attempts at his best 1-handed 180 endo.
-Thew did an awesome combo, jumped up to something like a switchback elevator, then dropped his *** to the tank, still switchback, than spin 180 till facing forward and then slide back to the seat. Then goig back down the track he did the deactivator from the tank!
- Dan did a Froggy on the tank, combo'd to standing on the seat then took off his right foot and then his left foot then hopped back to a tank wheelie, great combo BTW. On the way back he attempted his no-handed, crossed up stoppie using his foot to control the brake, didn't work that time but I saw him pull it off earlier in the day and it is mind boggling to me, then he headed back down the track again doing his switchback burnout and it goes well until it grabs and loops.
I would have made the guidlines on what the riders are expected to do more clear. Some were out there doing a number of insane tricks, some were doing the same crazy trick multiple times.
I think that the riders need to make it clear to the judges what they are going to do on their run. Since 2 or 3 runs, doing 2 or 3 tricks, is like saying "take your pick" to the judges. They are not supposed to pick out the best from everything you did, they are supposed to judge if the trick you did was the sickest I thought. Past sickest trick events always seemed to be a single run doing a single trick or combo.
My opinion is the rider does 1 or 2 runs, same trick executed each time and wrecking/falling over would obviously make that attempt no good. While the burnout that Dan was insane and awesome to see, IMO it shouldn't be counted as his "trick" since he did 2 other tricks prior to it and 1 of those should have counted as his "actual attempt" or "trick".
Most events I get to are laid back as someone said, never been to an XSBA event, but when it comes to people winning money and the guidelines being on the vague side, someone will always feel cheated in my opinion. Make the rules more exact and there is no room for question and LESS chance of unhappy results to the riders involved.
My $0.02
I watched the whole thing and the biggest input I can give is that we have had the "sickest trick" event at other events and that is exact what it is, a single trick that is insane, awesome, just plain SICK!
I saw MANY people during sickest trick doing a number of different tricks while out there and the event wasn't called "sickest run".
Now a combo is one thing, but when you do a trick in one direction, and then do another trick coming back the other way, and then do ANOTHER trick back the other way again.....which one was the attempt at the sickest trick?
Cause if you do 2 or 3 runs, and each one is a different trick altogether, then it is no longer sickest trick, it is the sickest run down and back.(and for a few riders, back down the track again)
Examples of tricks executed:
-Josh did the same 1-handed-insane-draggin his *** behind the bike and heading for the wall both down the track and back. 2 attempts at the same trick.
-Mark from MPZ tried circle wheelies every attempt and finally hit it on the 5th try.....mad props and awesome talent, but how many tries were you supposed to have. I know they told him to try again and he hit it, but his actual attempts had expired and I am sure he was then doing it for the sake of nailing it, and he did.
-Steve and Cat from Evasive, he wheelied and she was standing backwards reaching backwards and holding on and lifted her legs up parallel to the ground, totally off the bike. I couldn't tell what they did coming back down the track toward us, bad angle.
-Cory from D-Aces made 2 attempts at his best 1-handed 180 endo.
-Thew did an awesome combo, jumped up to something like a switchback elevator, then dropped his *** to the tank, still switchback, than spin 180 till facing forward and then slide back to the seat. Then goig back down the track he did the deactivator from the tank!
- Dan did a Froggy on the tank, combo'd to standing on the seat then took off his right foot and then his left foot then hopped back to a tank wheelie, great combo BTW. On the way back he attempted his no-handed, crossed up stoppie using his foot to control the brake, didn't work that time but I saw him pull it off earlier in the day and it is mind boggling to me, then he headed back down the track again doing his switchback burnout and it goes well until it grabs and loops.
I would have made the guidlines on what the riders are expected to do more clear. Some were out there doing a number of insane tricks, some were doing the same crazy trick multiple times.
I think that the riders need to make it clear to the judges what they are going to do on their run. Since 2 or 3 runs, doing 2 or 3 tricks, is like saying "take your pick" to the judges. They are not supposed to pick out the best from everything you did, they are supposed to judge if the trick you did was the sickest I thought. Past sickest trick events always seemed to be a single run doing a single trick or combo.
My opinion is the rider does 1 or 2 runs, same trick executed each time and wrecking/falling over would obviously make that attempt no good. While the burnout that Dan was insane and awesome to see, IMO it shouldn't be counted as his "trick" since he did 2 other tricks prior to it and 1 of those should have counted as his "actual attempt" or "trick".
Most events I get to are laid back as someone said, never been to an XSBA event, but when it comes to people winning money and the guidelines being on the vague side, someone will always feel cheated in my opinion. Make the rules more exact and there is no room for question and LESS chance of unhappy results to the riders involved.
My $0.02
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Joined: Oct 2002
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From: Lewiston, Me
Mellen,
Did any of your boys get that on vid. The 2 cams we had runnin both missed it.
There were a lot of sick tricks goin on in that comp, I think everyone deserved to win. Mark's circle, evasives trick, dans trick, the one hand skitch ur no hand sit down chris and daves 2up scrape... all were
. All I know is I would hate to be the judges. Def a really tough decision.
Did any of your boys get that on vid. The 2 cams we had runnin both missed it.
There were a lot of sick tricks goin on in that comp, I think everyone deserved to win. Mark's circle, evasives trick, dans trick, the one hand skitch ur no hand sit down chris and daves 2up scrape... all were
. All I know is I would hate to be the judges. Def a really tough decision. 
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Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 504
From: Springfield, MO
I WAS NOT THERE, so I will start out by giving away my credibility.
I think that if you are going by a crowd pleaser, crashes are included. If you are going for gymnastics perfection of trick, crashes should count against you. I remember when FMX was a 1/2 time event at the Arenacross, etc there was a dude that would intentionally crash, the crowd would go nuts and he would win. FWIW
It sounds like Dan had the crowd on it's feet yelling, crash or no crash, that kicks ***!! Props Dan.
I feel that is why people watch us stunt, the "Oh ****" factor
F
I think that if you are going by a crowd pleaser, crashes are included. If you are going for gymnastics perfection of trick, crashes should count against you. I remember when FMX was a 1/2 time event at the Arenacross, etc there was a dude that would intentionally crash, the crowd would go nuts and he would win. FWIW
It sounds like Dan had the crowd on it's feet yelling, crash or no crash, that kicks ***!! Props Dan.
I feel that is why people watch us stunt, the "Oh ****" factor
F
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From: KC
VIDEO
Anybody who got Dan's wreck on vid please let me know, we need that for our video because my camera was not on when that happened, if possible please pm me let me know if you can e-mail it to me at jditto@jmdtrans.com. Thanks
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Screw the vote, BIG props to all that attended (not me
)! All the pictures and info that's come my way, I'd say everyone of ya won the "One crazy muthufuka" award! Lol!:D When's the next one, I won't miss it!
)! All the pictures and info that's come my way, I'd say everyone of ya won the "One crazy muthufuka" award! Lol!:D When's the next one, I won't miss it! 
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From: Tampa,FL
Here's my winner...
I'm not just picking Steve and Cat because they're on the same team as me but because this is by far one of the sickest 2 up tricks i have ever seen before... Plus the crowd was going crazy the entire time they were on the track...
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From: Sunshine State
Re: "sickest trick"
Originally posted by pbrchick
u should put the vid clip up so every 1 can actually see how ****** sick it was....the pic doesn't really do much
I'm not a stunna so I don't know if it counts but from the spectators view: Its seems like it would be really hard for someone to judge a "sickest trick" cause it wasn't sickest burnout sickest wheelie or even sickest skitch.... so u really can't say what the "sickest trick" was....cause all of that **** was sick!!!
u should put the vid clip up so every 1 can actually see how ****** sick it was....the pic doesn't really do much
I'm not a stunna so I don't know if it counts but from the spectators view: Its seems like it would be really hard for someone to judge a "sickest trick" cause it wasn't sickest burnout sickest wheelie or even sickest skitch.... so u really can't say what the "sickest trick" was....cause all of that **** was sick!!!
On another note in this case,even tho Dan was off the hook in performance, if we were in a professional sport which is where everyone is working towards getting... it would not have realisticaly even placed....as far as technicality, originality ect. it should have gone to Steve and Cat in my opinion.
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From: Northern Virginia
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GSE Anthony
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-Mark from MPZ tried circle wheelies every attempt and finally hit it on the 5th try.....mad props and awesome talent, but how many tries were you supposed to have. I know they told him to try again and he hit it, but his actual attempts had expired and I am sure he was then doing it for the sake of nailing it, and he did.
yeah the way it was set up is that you got 2 attempts to do your sickest trick..........took me a few more tries than that to get the circle, so when i did make it around it didn't count.
gotta thank Duk for pushin me to stay out there and keep tryin it for the crowd..............to hear their reaction when i made it around was worth more to me than any trophy (still want one though :D )
Mark
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-Mark from MPZ tried circle wheelies every attempt and finally hit it on the 5th try.....mad props and awesome talent, but how many tries were you supposed to have. I know they told him to try again and he hit it, but his actual attempts had expired and I am sure he was then doing it for the sake of nailing it, and he did.
yeah the way it was set up is that you got 2 attempts to do your sickest trick..........took me a few more tries than that to get the circle, so when i did make it around it didn't count.
gotta thank Duk for pushin me to stay out there and keep tryin it for the crowd..............to hear their reaction when i made it around was worth more to me than any trophy (still want one though :D )
Mark
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Originally posted by Mark_MPZ
yeah the way it was set up is that you got 2 attempts to do your sickest trick..........took me a few more tries than that to get the circle, so when i did make it around it didn't count.
gotta thank Duk for pushin me to stay out there and keep tryin it for the crowd..............to hear their reaction when i made it around was worth more to me than any trophy (still want one though :D )
Mark
yeah the way it was set up is that you got 2 attempts to do your sickest trick..........took me a few more tries than that to get the circle, so when i did make it around it didn't count.
gotta thank Duk for pushin me to stay out there and keep tryin it for the crowd..............to hear their reaction when i made it around was worth more to me than any trophy (still want one though :D )
Mark
Mad props man, that is one of the hardest things to pull of IMO and I knew from all the talk that you would hit it!
I have a nice video shot of it and it is off the hook!
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ok ok!
my opinion!! first of all!! we were all told before the event even started that the SICKEST trick event was not based on crowd reaction, but on what the judges thought.. put ear muffs on and you come away with simple facts.. Dan is a GREAT Rider!!! but he wrecked.. if his trik was a switchback burnout, he should have stopped the burnout before wrecking.. but would it have honestly been as exciting had he not wrecked?? maybe it would have, but not as impressive as a guy hangin off the back of a bike with one arm to the point where even his shirt was dirty!!! one way or the other ya know!! crowd reaction says that dan won... but only cuz he wrecked! execution vote goes to the hangin dude! lol... if we are judgin it based on crowd reaction, im eneterin every sickest trik comp and doin wheelies into RICK (PBR) .. we will split the money!! lol.. its not about what you try, its about what you do.. give the prize to the rider that EXECUTES!!! if you wreck or dont get the job done.. sorry, have nice day... how do you justify rewarding someone for NOT COMPLETING A TRIK? and tell those who did better luck next time.. like i said, dan is an awesome rider/entertainer, but i think wreck = DQ . nuff said..
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From: al
Re: ok ok!
Originally posted by DV8Ronnie
my opinion!! first of all!! we were all told before the event even started that the SICKEST trick event was not based on crowd reaction, but on what the judges thought.. put ear muffs on and you come away with simple facts.. Dan is a GREAT Rider!!! but he wrecked.. if his trik was a switchback burnout, he should have stopped the burnout before wrecking.. but would it have honestly been as exciting had he not wrecked?? maybe it would have, but not as impressive as a guy hangin off the back of a bike with one arm to the point where even his shirt was dirty!!! one way or the other ya know!! crowd reaction says that dan won... but only cuz he wrecked! execution vote goes to the hangin dude! lol... if we are judgin it based on crowd reaction, im eneterin every sickest trik comp and doin wheelies into RICK (PBR) .. we will split the money!! lol.. its not about what you try, its about what you do.. give the prize to the rider that EXECUTES!!! if you wreck or dont get the job done.. sorry, have nice day... how do you justify rewarding someone for NOT COMPLETING A TRIK? and tell those who did better luck next time.. like i said, dan is an awesome rider/entertainer, but i think wreck = DQ . nuff said..
my opinion!! first of all!! we were all told before the event even started that the SICKEST trick event was not based on crowd reaction, but on what the judges thought.. put ear muffs on and you come away with simple facts.. Dan is a GREAT Rider!!! but he wrecked.. if his trik was a switchback burnout, he should have stopped the burnout before wrecking.. but would it have honestly been as exciting had he not wrecked?? maybe it would have, but not as impressive as a guy hangin off the back of a bike with one arm to the point where even his shirt was dirty!!! one way or the other ya know!! crowd reaction says that dan won... but only cuz he wrecked! execution vote goes to the hangin dude! lol... if we are judgin it based on crowd reaction, im eneterin every sickest trik comp and doin wheelies into RICK (PBR) .. we will split the money!! lol.. its not about what you try, its about what you do.. give the prize to the rider that EXECUTES!!! if you wreck or dont get the job done.. sorry, have nice day... how do you justify rewarding someone for NOT COMPLETING A TRIK? and tell those who did better luck next time.. like i said, dan is an awesome rider/entertainer, but i think wreck = DQ . nuff said..
amen
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