Does anyone else have team problems?
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Re: Does anyone else have team problems?
Originally Posted by Liquidforce951
Well I'm the teammate D1 ryans talking about and let me explain why we would'nt go. WE HAVE DONE TWO SHOWS FOR THIS GUY FOR FREE ALREADY. I don't feel that we need to do anymore for free and also to the other teammates knowledge we were not getting paid anything. Yes this guy helped us get our start in ENC and I thank him for that but if I recall correctly at the begening of this year we did a free show for this guy and he charged us to get in gate. NOW WHO F_CK AGREES WITH THAT???? Oh but did you get paid D1 RYAN?? yes you did and did split it up with us???? no you did'nt.. So let me get this strait YOU WANT US TO PAY FOR OUR OWN GAS, PAY TO GET IN THE GATE LET THEM USE OUR FACE AND NAMES IN THE RADIO ADS FOR YOU TO GET PAID AND NOT US? AND I'M NOT SCARED TO SAY GO F_UCK YOURSELF. I'M SORRY BUT NO I'M NOT SHOWING UP FOR FREE WAIT, I'M AM NOT GOING TO SPEND AT THE MINIUM $100 TO GO DO A SHOW FOR SOME GUY THAT USED US TO PROMOTE THE SHOW AND NOT GET PAID.
I DID NOT EVEN MENTION THE FACT WE HAUL YOUR BIKES TO ALL THE SHOWS, WE FIX YOUR BIKE{S} EVERY TIME ONE OF THEM BRAKES FOR FREE, WE STORE YOUR BIKES.
OK, LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS IN REAL SHORT, WE WANT RIDE FOR FREE IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID, WE WILL NOT PAY THESE PROMOTERS TO GET IN THE GATE WHILE THERE USING OUR NAMES AND FACES ON THE FLYERS. AND IF ANYONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH PLEASE REPLY BACK BECAUSE I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HERE SOMEONES ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS.
I DID NOT EVEN MENTION THE FACT WE HAUL YOUR BIKES TO ALL THE SHOWS, WE FIX YOUR BIKE{S} EVERY TIME ONE OF THEM BRAKES FOR FREE, WE STORE YOUR BIKES.
OK, LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS IN REAL SHORT, WE WANT RIDE FOR FREE IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID, WE WILL NOT PAY THESE PROMOTERS TO GET IN THE GATE WHILE THERE USING OUR NAMES AND FACES ON THE FLYERS. AND IF ANYONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH PLEASE REPLY BACK BECAUSE I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HERE SOMEONES ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS.
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Re: Does anyone else have team problems?
Originally Posted by Liquidforce951
Well I'm the teammate D1 ryans talking about and let me explain why we would'nt go. WE HAVE DONE TWO SHOWS FOR THIS GUY FOR FREE ALREADY. I don't feel that we need to do anymore for free and also to the other teammates knowledge we were not getting paid anything. Yes this guy helped us get our start in ENC and I thank him for that but if I recall correctly at the begening of this year we did a free show for this guy and he charged us to get in gate. NOW WHO F_CK AGREES WITH THAT???? Oh but did you get paid D1 RYAN?? yes you did and did split it up with us???? no you did'nt.. So let me get this strait YOU WANT US TO PAY FOR OUR OWN GAS, PAY TO GET IN THE GATE LET THEM USE OUR FACE AND NAMES IN THE RADIO ADS FOR YOU TO GET PAID AND NOT US? AND I'M NOT SCARED TO SAY GO F_UCK YOURSELF. I'M SORRY BUT NO I'M NOT SHOWING UP FOR FREE WAIT, I'M AM NOT GOING TO SPEND AT THE MINIUM $100 TO GO DO A SHOW FOR SOME GUY THAT USED US TO PROMOTE THE SHOW AND NOT GET PAID.
I DID NOT EVEN MENTION THE FACT WE HAUL YOUR BIKES TO ALL THE SHOWS, WE FIX YOUR BIKE{S} EVERY TIME ONE OF THEM BRAKES FOR FREE, WE STORE YOUR BIKES.
OK, LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS IN REAL SHORT, WE WANT RIDE FOR FREE IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID, WE WILL NOT PAY THESE PROMOTERS TO GET IN THE GATE WHILE THERE USING OUR NAMES AND FACES ON THE FLYERS. AND IF ANYONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH PLEASE REPLY BACK BECAUSE I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HERE SOMEONES ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS.
I DID NOT EVEN MENTION THE FACT WE HAUL YOUR BIKES TO ALL THE SHOWS, WE FIX YOUR BIKE{S} EVERY TIME ONE OF THEM BRAKES FOR FREE, WE STORE YOUR BIKES.
OK, LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS IN REAL SHORT, WE WANT RIDE FOR FREE IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID, WE WILL NOT PAY THESE PROMOTERS TO GET IN THE GATE WHILE THERE USING OUR NAMES AND FACES ON THE FLYERS. AND IF ANYONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH PLEASE REPLY BACK BECAUSE I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HERE SOMEONES ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS.
Well boo hoo, I told you he might throw something our way. Rick got paid 200 bucks. You act like its takes 500 dollars worth of gas to there. You took my bike to one show, and I gave you gas money. Plus I didn't get paid for the Starboyz show. But you are one to talk though, you sold your own brother out at North Myrtle Beach, everyone didn't want to pay him and didn't say ****, you took your cut and left. I gave my 50 dollar cut to him because I thought he deserved it. So there is another show I didn't get paid for, but I did it to help YOUR brother out. So before you start actin all high and mighty you need to watch what you say. I started this thread to see everyones opinion on the situation, not to make it personal, but its too late for that now.
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Re: Does anyone else have team problems?
You don't think you made it personnel to begin?????? and on that NMB deal I thought alot more of you for that but I had told him I was going to give him mine but thats beside the point. Yeah I know you got paid for that starboyz you told us you did. AND AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ELSE GOES YOU MADE IT PERSONNEL WHEN YOU STARTED THIS THREAD. And no I'm not going to let you talk sh_t about us and not say anything. You're justed pissed I called you out
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Re: Does anyone else have team problems?
whatever happened to just riding and putting on a show cuz you love to do it and for the fans that wanna see you, i understand all you guys wanna get paid which is perfectly fine, but damn is it really worth messing up a friendship over a few bucks?
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Re: Does anyone else have team problems?
Alright guys, I wrote a big long response to this one already but when I clicked send it erased. Therefore this one will be short. You didnt start out riding bikes for the money. You guys are a fairly new group and doing shows (no matter how much they pay) is a good way to get your name out. Kiss and make up becuase $$$ is a horrible thing to waste a friendship on. If you didn't have shows to do, you would still be doing stunts free of charge in the industrial park. The best shows are there anyways. Yes the $$$ is an extra added bonus that eventually when you get professional enough, should be paid, but your not there yet. Besides, you even said so yourself that this guys gave you your first show, and yes maybe you did give him a couple of freebees, but personally I think you owe him maybe a couple more because look how far you guys have made it today thanks to those first shows....
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Re: Does anyone else have team problems?
Originally Posted by Division1 Ryan
Heres my problem, everybody looks to me as the head of the group. I book us most of the shows, work out how much we are being paid ect. But in this situation a track owner called me and said he had another team (wheelie boyz), doin a show on the 31st, and wanted to know if I would come down and ride with them, kind of a North vs South thing. He said he had already booked them and paid them, and would throw me a couple of hundred bucks to ride for a few hours, and book us next month for our own show and pay 1500 dollars. I tell the members of my team we got a show to do and they automatically think we gettin paid the "big bucks". When I tell them the situation they don't want to go because they are not gettin paid enough. So I am stuck with me and my other boy doin the show. The track owner is a good friend of mine, and gave us our first show, and always looks out for us. The track is 35 minutes away. What do think of my teammates? What would you do in this situation?
The track owner is a personal friend of the "team leader" and friends will do favors for friends and teams should stick together..... period. You have to look at the long term gains from doing friends favors. I worked several years in professional auto racing and have seen the constant new-comer attitudes come and go, but the long term relationships that are forged in any SPORT are the grassroots ones. We often take trips to local car shows and DARE events to get our name out and help draw good attention to this sport and help draw support. It doesn't matter if it's 97 or 2007 if you're new, you have to give a little to get a little. Thats my
As for anyone else having problems with their team? Does anyone NOT have problems. That's life.
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