Finally you get it! That's what being a sports profesional is all about.
Being the best, standing out and getting paid well for all your talent and hard work. Pro's set the standard for other people, it's just how it works.

 

Arrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

 

yeah I got problems w/ you trying to knock my place in the industry by calling me a drunk **** up and a nobody. i've worked in a m/c shop for the last 4 years, so riding isn't the only contribution I've made to the industry. your killin me w/ this **** cuz your lying to yourself and our peers, when really you have no clue. i have my own crib, a bike that's paid for, a full size scool bus, a job in the industry, and crazy riding talent. if you really want to touch base on how many top riders are crazy drunks, let's start a whole new thread. cuz pretty much everyone I've met in this game parties harder than I do.

keep up the bullshit. dig up the dirt on how shitty of a student I was in high school, and how I've never had a felony charge. I know so many peeps here really care about my personal life. apparently you do cuz that's the only **** you can talk, cuz you can't/don't/won't ride on the same level as I, ever.

once again, eat **** and die.

sorry to everyone else for having to read this, but I have to stand up for myself.

 

is that mandarory to be a stunta? Or deose that just mean your good wnough not to get gaught???

 

makes wheelies not war!!!!!

 

THat sucks we kinda have the same problem,its a pain in the *** to get my teamates to go anywhere.and they dont ever practice.when we do go to comps they cant even ride in the show so im always stuck alone doin indvidaul freestyle.i have to jump in with other teams to do team events.gettin paid to do a show is outta the fu(kin question i wouldent put the crowd through that kinda torture..the only team event we ever did was at stuntwars which was my first comp.until my team gets serious im all alone

im gonna start a team for guys like you and me called(the guys that are sick of our teamates ****) sound good? T.G.T.A.S.O.O.T.S.

 

do the show get out there and be seen your gonna ride anyways, whether its practice or for a show if you break even and promote urself you did a good thing. this sport is not big enuff where you can ask for big bucks. for those who do make it good for them but get out there and just do it.. if everyone thinks the same and wont do shows for less you will get no exposure... dont only think about the money, because right now is riding the only thing your doin, or do you have a job that supports riding ..

 

Teams always have their ups and downs. The ones that don't put in any work, kick them out. When they realize that they want the team bad enough, they will start to work at it. Then let them back in. Its like a love/hate relationship.

"G"
SIC Riders
760-583-9165

 

Thanks for all of the posts.

i went to the show, and everything worked out okay. It rained off and on, but there was 2000 people plus. We have had many $1000 plus shows for the track owner over the last year or so. He tries to get some other teams in there so its not us stuntin every @ every show he has. I can understand that, so I laid back and rode this one for a minimal amount. Out of all of this I got a show booked end of August from the same track owner for 2g's.
If you look out for somebody they will usually hit you back for the better on the next run.

 

glad to hear it worked out ok...

 

i've been keepin up on reading this post and i figured you and your crew would be all set. im glad it worked out

 

when are you guys gonna realize that its just like skateboarding, snowboarding, mx freestyle, whatever, its not the sport that gets you rich, its the endorsements. pediod. once you get you name out and start a culture out of this and get kids paying $$$$ to buy the related products to live the life and play the part than you will get your $$$$$ the reason these sports are so huge is because they promote a lifestyle that appeals to the youth and they are the ones that drive the business. do you think reebok is signing huge deals to name shooes after Birdman(which by the way is a drug dealing term) because of the positive image?? No its because millions of young people will buy them to feel like they are living that lifestyle!! Same with G-unit, these people are self proclaimed murderers, but they promote with a style taht makes money.. look at metal millisha, no pretty boys there!!! This sport is new to mainstream and nothing will come to you at this point, but the guy/team that goes out and does everything avail to them to get known and does it with passion, signs autographs, does interviews, sells (hell maybe even give away products) flirt with girls, hang with the guys, and lives this dream in a larger than life manner is the ones who will bring it to the next level in a business sense, whether their a thug doing stunts on the streets, or a straight up professional type. Look around though the bad image is way more marketable these days!!! Skateboarding was a culture and lifestyle before it was a huge money machine, so was surfing, etc. get the fans and you will get the money, period. An extra couple grand wont seem like such a big deal when your signing a deal with No fear for 6 digis now will it, but whose going to sign that deal, it will be the most famous and respected, not the guys holding out on potential fans cause they wanted an extra 1000 to do the show. Until you yourself are a source of revenue you will not make big $$ no matter how good you are. You need to Market yourselves just like musicians do, through an image and lifestyle if you want to get rich. Some of the best musicians Ive ever heard are making tips in a dive bar, why, because they couldnt market themselves in a effective manner. I will never be a pro stunter for me its a hobby(and lifestyle). But my views are coming from a business point of view. How many of you teams even have managers or PR guys. I understand it sucks to get paid **** to make a bunch of money for some shiester track organizer, so go take out a loan and rent out your own space and organize your own events. hell Jay Z claims to have started his empire on an OZ. Now thats sacrifice!!! And guess what even if its not true their are millions of people spending millions of $ because they think he did. Its the business man that will get the $ every time not the talent, so some of you take my advice before Im the one thats signing your checks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PEACE

 

**** the bullshit man...you ever need someone to ride with bro ill do the **** for free as long as i dont have to pay to get there and home..hit me up fool

i heart wheelies

 

Now thats the attitude of someone I would pay to watch

 

Here I am minding my own business, just breezing through Stuntlife and find another relatively interesting topic and begin to read. Things are going well, people are having some intelligent conversation and debate, then Rodg jumps in and drags me into another thread bad mouthing a man who he has no idea about, who is respected by "professional" riders in the sport for my efforts to help move the sport forward. This clown is killing me.

The only thing I have said in any worth wild post in 6 months is that I would like to see the top 10 professionals of our sport work together, and you decided that was your chance to tell me what you thought of me, my team, and the event you never even attended?!?!?! HAHAHAHA!!! You do not even know me bro! You cannot grasp the time, money and energy I spent the last two years trying to make PsychoFest one of the purest and most well run stunt events in the country, only to be told by your peers that it is the best event ever run, and then to lose big bucks on the deal because I gave average joes like you, me and the next guy a chance to win money, crash cages, free shoes, sprockets, dvd's, blah blah blah on one of the smoothest and nicest drag strips in the Northeast! Did I get under your skin bro? Does it eat at you that my "pathetic" stunt team has worked hard enough to be recognized in this industry as one of the best teams in the country as far as positive, professional approach and commitment. Hell I liked you bro, thought you and your boys had alot of talent and were happy just being CC, I respected that and still respect your boys for their skills, but lately all I read is negativity from you. What does that do for you bro? You talk professionalism and then anyone who had any respect for you reads your posts and cannot understand how your going to bash those who have worked so hard to help the sport. I do not even know Shugg that well. I know he gave this community a chance to meet online and all we as a community have done is turn it into a battle ground...a mockery of what it was in the begginning! He has not done everything right....who has? I do not even know Jimmy from Redline on a personal level, but he defended what I am doing for the sport. Never spoke a word to the guy, but yet we have a mutual respect for each other because they have worked hard to do good things down there and we are working hard up here. Did you ever watch the video of Redline at that school they did a show for a year or so ago??? A bunch of little kids going crazy at a special school event because Redliine cared enough to ride for the people, the community! That, my friend is professionalism at it's best! You are calling Laura out and mocking her lifestyle??? She is a very talented rider, who was respected by the masses for her efforts, and your "professional" response to Jimmy when he called you out was to attack her? It is a damn shame...

You talk in response to my post saying your very comfortable burning these bridges you know will never affect you. Who do you respect in this industry...I am talking top ten professionals of our sport....Tony D? Thew? Scott (Starboyz)? Gorka? Woods? Patrick Stevens? Colbert? How about Tim Barnes who is both rider and business man? Drew Stone? Call anyone of them and ask them if your barking up the wrong tree calling me out bro? Ask them all what they think of me and my efforts for this sport? I think you will be lonely in your opinion of me and my teams effort despite our lack of high chair scrapes. You are burning bridges bro...You have no idea what I am cooking and doing right now with some of the top riders in this sport. You have no concept of the big picture bro. It is really sad...

Bottom line...I do not care what you think of me and if anything it makes me laugh to think I am on your mind so much! You will never find one of the top riders in the country who actually knows me and has done business with me or been to my event who will have anything negative to say. I am 100% legit bro and am not going anywhere. You keep talking JAGMAN all day because you will one day wish you had not felt the need to burn this bridge.

I promise this is the end of the beef between me and Rodg on my end. I am putting it to sleep because I do not have the time to bs with him and he has clearly stated in his signature that he enjoys the hype and controversy he is bnriging on lately...Aren't publicity stunts a trip???

 

Word!!!!! I 'll see what we got coming up. Nobody rides like you around here.
people would go crazy

 

if i were closer to chicago i'd try to meet up too

 

hell yea

 

Well I'm the teammate D1 ryans talking about and let me explain why we would'nt go. WE HAVE DONE TWO SHOWS FOR THIS GUY FOR FREE ALREADY. I don't feel that we need to do anymore for free and also to the other teammates knowledge we were not getting paid anything. Yes this guy helped us get our start in ENC and I thank him for that but if I recall correctly at the begening of this year we did a free show for this guy and he charged us to get in gate. NOW WHO F_CK AGREES WITH THAT???? Oh but did you get paid D1 RYAN?? yes you did and did split it up with us???? no you did'nt.. So let me get this strait YOU WANT US TO PAY FOR OUR OWN GAS, PAY TO GET IN THE GATE LET THEM USE OUR FACE AND NAMES IN THE RADIO ADS FOR YOU TO GET PAID AND NOT US? AND I'M NOT SCARED TO SAY GO F_UCK YOURSELF. I'M SORRY BUT NO I'M NOT SHOWING UP FOR FREE WAIT, I'M AM NOT GOING TO SPEND AT THE MINIUM $100 TO GO DO A SHOW FOR SOME GUY THAT USED US TO PROMOTE THE SHOW AND NOT GET PAID.
I DID NOT EVEN MENTION THE FACT WE HAUL YOUR BIKES TO ALL THE SHOWS, WE FIX YOUR BIKE{S} EVERY TIME ONE OF THEM BRAKES FOR FREE, WE STORE YOUR BIKES.
OK, LET ME SUMMARIZE THIS IN REAL SHORT, WE WANT RIDE FOR FREE IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID, WE WILL NOT PAY THESE PROMOTERS TO GET IN THE GATE WHILE THERE USING OUR NAMES AND FACES ON THE FLYERS. AND IF ANYONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH PLEASE REPLY BACK BECAUSE I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HERE SOMEONES ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS.

 

ok dude, you had to pay to get in the gate ....to do a show for this guy??? now thats fu(ked!!! i mean we have went with other groups to do shows and not gotten paid(neither were they) but to have to pay to get in if your doing a show is waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of line. glad you posted the other side of the story. im shure it will open some eyes as to the true situation.