Think about this
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From: Lonestar
Re: Think about this
Originally Posted by Alexander
As competitive as this sport gets out on the track, stunt riding is still one of the friendliest sports. During a competition everyone compeets yet if groups of people get together, informally they have a wonderfull time, at least till cops break it up. Stunt riding should have been made an official sport years ago, but there were only a handfull of people doing it and there wasn't too many well made sport bikes to ride, it really took off when 900RRs came out. The other thing is that stunting reputation has been screwed up by many "morons" out on the streets, people that think they are all that, that attracted much of negative publicity by their means of crashing and trashing cops... The only way that this sport can bloom is if unity is put in place. I mean that many of the competitions are judged more by the crowd then by rider's actual performance. ex: There was a competition a few weeks ago, a friend of mine went, and from many of my friends (i was not able to go) i heard that he was probably the best rider out there of all people that entered. My friends said that he was the only person who could do no handers and decent circles, yet his team took second. They said that the only reason why the other team beat them was because 3 guys came out put their bires on cages and started doing endless chainsaws.
The competitions now are more about crowd pleasing trics than the technical and prescision ones. The sport won't progress untill it is the other way around. The sport also wont progress untill there is more support for it around the world. There were people stunting in europe a long time ago, but now the sport there has died compleately. People in europe, as well as in asia, use bikes to get from A to B and save gas. You dont see many sport bikes in other parts of the world, and most population is out there. If we can get national level competitions to start happening, move their locations around the world for publicity,then we can get people, fans, to get interested in what we do and hopefully get them to try it out and soon compeet.
I also do agree on that money is a big issue, money is the thing that drives this world, unfortunately. But even without money, even without getting big corporations to sponsor big events, why cant we make this sport the best it can be, why can't we organize the competitions that are held, then and maybe then, when everything is organized, will big companies look to sponsor it, nobody wants to pay for a big mess that it is now...
Lastly, stunting is more of a sport than racing is; it requires more technical precision than any kind of racing, especially NASCAR and big bike drag racing. By all means it should be in XGames or even stand alone like racing on separate tracks and stadiums...
The competitions now are more about crowd pleasing trics than the technical and prescision ones. The sport won't progress untill it is the other way around. The sport also wont progress untill there is more support for it around the world. There were people stunting in europe a long time ago, but now the sport there has died compleately. People in europe, as well as in asia, use bikes to get from A to B and save gas. You dont see many sport bikes in other parts of the world, and most population is out there. If we can get national level competitions to start happening, move their locations around the world for publicity,then we can get people, fans, to get interested in what we do and hopefully get them to try it out and soon compeet.
I also do agree on that money is a big issue, money is the thing that drives this world, unfortunately. But even without money, even without getting big corporations to sponsor big events, why cant we make this sport the best it can be, why can't we organize the competitions that are held, then and maybe then, when everything is organized, will big companies look to sponsor it, nobody wants to pay for a big mess that it is now...
Lastly, stunting is more of a sport than racing is; it requires more technical precision than any kind of racing, especially NASCAR and big bike drag racing. By all means it should be in XGames or even stand alone like racing on separate tracks and stadiums...
If you're going to have these technical tricks that are boring to the crowd and trying to win a contest...I believe you're gonna have to have some half time high speed wheelies,burnouts,flamingos etc..... You can't let the fans go to sleep.
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Re: Think about this
Originally Posted by naturalborn
the only reason we did not go to the nsra event is insurance reasons, they said that we would have to have ins cards, I am here to tell ya, I know atleast 5 other people that did not got for that same reason, that right there is going to create low turn out, i don't have health ins , I pay cash for my visits and b/c of that reason I didn't go,
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Re: Think about this
I already posted... and there isn't anything more I can add that somebody else hasn't already said!
I have kept reading this thread though, cause I am only starting out in this style of riding, but want to see it evolve from the streets to a mainstream sport and want to see what others have to say about all this too.
One thing that I noticed is that there are a lot of little whinning bitches that hate what they havent got (skills, sponsors, events, whatever), or hate other people because they think they can do better.
The people that bitch and moan are the guys that are holding stunting back from becoming a bigger and better sport! Your ego doesn't help promote anything... you may have skills, but if you wont ride an event cause you think your too good for it... you are the one thats holding this sport back. Stop blaming everyone else, because at least there are some people out there trying. People also bitching about others not being able to make an event... if people just cant make an event (for whatever reason they have) you shouldnt dis them. If they are not going to the event because of their ego... then dont bother inviting them next time, cause they aren't worth the postage money to send the invite to the event!
I went to the Motofreestyle event here in Sydney, Australia and I want to thank the guys that put it on (I think it was XSBA... I am not too sure sorry)
and the guys from both Australia and the USA who rode:
US Riders - Darius, Tony D, Ryan Cramer, Ronnie Hurst, Micah Crumley, Nick Hill... Those guys performed amazingly well for having to ride on borrowed bikes with out much practice time.
Aussie Riders - Rob Jones, Dave Skelton, Corey Solomons, Matt Higgins, Cameron Ambridge and any others (sorry I dont know all your names)... you impressed the hell out of me, I didnt even know there were any guys stunting down under until then! Keep up the good work fellas!
Also for the whole illegal street thing holding us back... I dont think thats the full truth. People drag their bikes against other bikes or cars and use the roads like a race track all the time... that doesnt hold back drag events and any track racing events or sponsorship either... its just part of a lifestyle that people may choose to live, like surfing, skiing, skating, whatever! Some people are professionals and get paid, others do it cause they love to do it... if they risk doing it on a public road... they are only going to harm there reputation (and maybe other street riders). But if you only ride tracks and events, you dont have anything to worry about. The bad publicity is whats happeing on the roads, not the track!
I for one would not stop pulling a wheelie or endo or burnout on a public road, cause I love to see the look on peoples faces when I do it! But if you only ride a track or events, your not going to get a ticket, cause your not stunting the street.
SO DONT FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON TRYING TO STOP OTHERS DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, INSTEAD FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH! IF YOU KEEP POSTING MESSAGES, BUT DONT FOLLOW THROUGH, YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME AND WAITING FOR A MIRACLE! IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO READ THIS AND SAY "HEY I THINK I WANT TO INVEST MY MONEY IN THIS SPORT!" YOU GOT THE SAME CHANCE AS WINNING THE LOTTERY!
I already posted that I would donate up to $100 in any currency (not invest... I dont want my money back, the only thing I want in return is to see stunting evolve into an international sport that everyone can enjoy).
So Tony D, if you are keeping and eye on this... and anyone else who wanted to join forces to create a single governing body, that will represent the world in stunt riding as a sport... PM, EMAIL, CALL or SEND A LETTER, JUST GET IN CONTACT AND GET THE BALL ROLLING. WHEN YOU GOT SOMETHING SOLID THAT WILL BENEFIT (IN TERMS OF REPRESENTING) ALL THE STUNTERS OUT THERE THAT WANT TO RIDE EVENTS AND TRACKS, LET ME KNOW... MY DONATION TO THE CAUSE IS WAITING!
No offense or disrespect to any guys that just ride the street and dont want to support or ride events cause the street is all you wanna do, you shouldn't bother posting on this thread any more... cause you aint going to help (and I am sure that a few people are sick of your bitchn' and whining)!
If you are riding the street and supporting and/or riding events then keep posting your ideas and information to help progress this sport from crawling to walking!
As I said in my last post.. this is my opinion only... like it or hate it, its only my
!
I have kept reading this thread though, cause I am only starting out in this style of riding, but want to see it evolve from the streets to a mainstream sport and want to see what others have to say about all this too.
One thing that I noticed is that there are a lot of little whinning bitches that hate what they havent got (skills, sponsors, events, whatever), or hate other people because they think they can do better.
The people that bitch and moan are the guys that are holding stunting back from becoming a bigger and better sport! Your ego doesn't help promote anything... you may have skills, but if you wont ride an event cause you think your too good for it... you are the one thats holding this sport back. Stop blaming everyone else, because at least there are some people out there trying. People also bitching about others not being able to make an event... if people just cant make an event (for whatever reason they have) you shouldnt dis them. If they are not going to the event because of their ego... then dont bother inviting them next time, cause they aren't worth the postage money to send the invite to the event!
I went to the Motofreestyle event here in Sydney, Australia and I want to thank the guys that put it on (I think it was XSBA... I am not too sure sorry)
and the guys from both Australia and the USA who rode:
US Riders - Darius, Tony D, Ryan Cramer, Ronnie Hurst, Micah Crumley, Nick Hill... Those guys performed amazingly well for having to ride on borrowed bikes with out much practice time.
Aussie Riders - Rob Jones, Dave Skelton, Corey Solomons, Matt Higgins, Cameron Ambridge and any others (sorry I dont know all your names)... you impressed the hell out of me, I didnt even know there were any guys stunting down under until then! Keep up the good work fellas!
Also for the whole illegal street thing holding us back... I dont think thats the full truth. People drag their bikes against other bikes or cars and use the roads like a race track all the time... that doesnt hold back drag events and any track racing events or sponsorship either... its just part of a lifestyle that people may choose to live, like surfing, skiing, skating, whatever! Some people are professionals and get paid, others do it cause they love to do it... if they risk doing it on a public road... they are only going to harm there reputation (and maybe other street riders). But if you only ride tracks and events, you dont have anything to worry about. The bad publicity is whats happeing on the roads, not the track!
I for one would not stop pulling a wheelie or endo or burnout on a public road, cause I love to see the look on peoples faces when I do it! But if you only ride a track or events, your not going to get a ticket, cause your not stunting the street.
SO DONT FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON TRYING TO STOP OTHERS DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, INSTEAD FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH! IF YOU KEEP POSTING MESSAGES, BUT DONT FOLLOW THROUGH, YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME AND WAITING FOR A MIRACLE! IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO READ THIS AND SAY "HEY I THINK I WANT TO INVEST MY MONEY IN THIS SPORT!" YOU GOT THE SAME CHANCE AS WINNING THE LOTTERY!
I already posted that I would donate up to $100 in any currency (not invest... I dont want my money back, the only thing I want in return is to see stunting evolve into an international sport that everyone can enjoy).
So Tony D, if you are keeping and eye on this... and anyone else who wanted to join forces to create a single governing body, that will represent the world in stunt riding as a sport... PM, EMAIL, CALL or SEND A LETTER, JUST GET IN CONTACT AND GET THE BALL ROLLING. WHEN YOU GOT SOMETHING SOLID THAT WILL BENEFIT (IN TERMS OF REPRESENTING) ALL THE STUNTERS OUT THERE THAT WANT TO RIDE EVENTS AND TRACKS, LET ME KNOW... MY DONATION TO THE CAUSE IS WAITING!
No offense or disrespect to any guys that just ride the street and dont want to support or ride events cause the street is all you wanna do, you shouldn't bother posting on this thread any more... cause you aint going to help (and I am sure that a few people are sick of your bitchn' and whining)!
If you are riding the street and supporting and/or riding events then keep posting your ideas and information to help progress this sport from crawling to walking!
As I said in my last post.. this is my opinion only... like it or hate it, its only my
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Re: Think about this
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a [person] does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses their intelligence."--Albert Einstein
"complaint is often the result of an inability to live within the restrictions of this goddamned cage."
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
-Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"don't let anyone tell you you better grow up soon or face the consequences of a life not planned out. that's exactly what you need. i'm here to tell you leave the bullshit you've been taught behind and find out for yourself that work is slavery and it makes you a slave. and i know it's easy for somebody like me to say. but i dropped that ****ing life and i don't regret the bridges that i burned, mistakes i made; they're what i learned from. yes, you've gotta pay the rent and feed yourself and then pay all the bills and taxes 'til you're ready to explode and kill yourself and those who get in your way. don't misunderstand me- i'm just trying to remind you that your life is not tv and things don't just work out; most of the time you're miserable. the american dream is a big ****ing lie; a wild goose chase. you're here to make the richest six percent a little richer. don't you want something better? don't you want something that lasts? they're not your friends- they're your masters and they don't care if you live or die. you've gotta get out on your own. you've gotta get out of this stupid town and try to live for once instead of just existing. and i guarantee that pretty soon you're gonna see that things aren't half as good or as bad as they used to seem now that you're a thorn in the side of society; now that you're part of the problem; the ruination of a system that keeps you down, steals your money and your hope and then smacks you around. don't you want to get out of this town? don't you want to get out of this ****ing life?"
We can't all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by. - Will Rogers
"everyone around me has these holes drilled through 'em, and someone on the other side is trying to figure it out. dying to be someone, killing to be recognized as something that you're not. well since we're all so into introductions, don't forget your names." - Sole
Sorry for standing up and saying something about something I feel strongly about. I can confidently burn bridges with people that I feel have no place in this industry. I'm not whining or bitching, I'm telling you you suck and that you are the problem. You not me. That being said of course none of us are going to have a chance at making a living off of riding that you admitted is out of your league. All these teams and riders dilluted the industry before it even got started. It's sad really, well atleast to me it is. The young talented rider that has dreams to ride for a living. You don't achieve your goals by sitting around watching schmucks sabotage your dream so they can make a quick buck. You start climbing the ladder one step at a time. I started with the part all of you should have, riding that speaks for itself.
eat **** and die, it's bloody mary time. gots to drown my sorrows
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"complaint is often the result of an inability to live within the restrictions of this goddamned cage."
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
-Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
"don't let anyone tell you you better grow up soon or face the consequences of a life not planned out. that's exactly what you need. i'm here to tell you leave the bullshit you've been taught behind and find out for yourself that work is slavery and it makes you a slave. and i know it's easy for somebody like me to say. but i dropped that ****ing life and i don't regret the bridges that i burned, mistakes i made; they're what i learned from. yes, you've gotta pay the rent and feed yourself and then pay all the bills and taxes 'til you're ready to explode and kill yourself and those who get in your way. don't misunderstand me- i'm just trying to remind you that your life is not tv and things don't just work out; most of the time you're miserable. the american dream is a big ****ing lie; a wild goose chase. you're here to make the richest six percent a little richer. don't you want something better? don't you want something that lasts? they're not your friends- they're your masters and they don't care if you live or die. you've gotta get out on your own. you've gotta get out of this stupid town and try to live for once instead of just existing. and i guarantee that pretty soon you're gonna see that things aren't half as good or as bad as they used to seem now that you're a thorn in the side of society; now that you're part of the problem; the ruination of a system that keeps you down, steals your money and your hope and then smacks you around. don't you want to get out of this town? don't you want to get out of this ****ing life?"
We can't all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by. - Will Rogers
"everyone around me has these holes drilled through 'em, and someone on the other side is trying to figure it out. dying to be someone, killing to be recognized as something that you're not. well since we're all so into introductions, don't forget your names." - Sole
Sorry for standing up and saying something about something I feel strongly about. I can confidently burn bridges with people that I feel have no place in this industry. I'm not whining or bitching, I'm telling you you suck and that you are the problem. You not me. That being said of course none of us are going to have a chance at making a living off of riding that you admitted is out of your league. All these teams and riders dilluted the industry before it even got started. It's sad really, well atleast to me it is. The young talented rider that has dreams to ride for a living. You don't achieve your goals by sitting around watching schmucks sabotage your dream so they can make a quick buck. You start climbing the ladder one step at a time. I started with the part all of you should have, riding that speaks for itself.
eat **** and die, it's bloody mary time. gots to drown my sorrows
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Rodge is a Immature punk bit@h
Originally Posted by XRodgCC
Sorry for standing up and saying something about something I feel strongly about. I can confidently burn bridges with people that I feel have no place in this industry. I'm not whining or bitching, I'm telling you you suck and that you are the problem. You not me. That being said of course none of us are going to have a chance at making a living off of riding that you admitted is out of your league. All these teams and riders dilluted the industry before it even got started. It's sad really, well atleast to me it is. The young talented rider that has dreams to ride for a living. You don't achieve your goals by sitting around watching schmucks sabotage your dream so they can make a quick buck. You start climbing the ladder one step at a time. I started with the part all of you should have, riding that speaks for itself.
I'm not Singling you out because I dispise you, but for the fact that you could even ridicule a team that is well know for putting on one of the best events of the year is beyond me. It's competitors like yourself that bring down events....not the event holders or promoters. The only talent I have seen out of you is slow parking lot stuff....not saying that is all you have, but it is certainly all I have seen or heard about
.As for the sport itself I honestly don't see it becoming more than anything but local competitions and side shows for other large non-biking events. Like many have said it doesn't have much of an "Ahhhhhh did he just do that" factor about it. Even the stunts that do possess that attention become repetitve to the general spectator over time. A successful evet needs to be short and sweet. May not be the best for the riders, but this is the only way you will gain a crowd and keep them in the stands.
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Re: Think about this
LOL! Funny how people ASSUME things----- I run a forklift to pay the bills!!!!
Originally Posted by od1nixer
The reason they give a **** is because they're living off it. I really don't ****ing care about problems like these, and I sure as hell don't like being told to do something from the person that stands to profit from it. I think he's talking to a different crowd than the one I'm in, though. He's talking to the other people that think they have something to gain from it. The thing you people haven't realized, is that stuntriding is not a sport, it's a niche. Hell, even the words stuntriding, stuntlife, stunt competition have a queer ring to the ears of the mainstream public.
"Stuntriding" is a niche in the sport of motorcycling. Much like off-road motorcycling was in its early days, and then progressed to what we now see in motocross and the like. They all started out the way this niche did; a bunch of enthusiasts that enjoyed what they were doing. Many of these so-called professionals in our sheltered little corner of the sports spectrum, have lost sight of what made these other sports excel. They've lost sight of desire and enjoyment, because they're constantly averted by trying to make a living in the same sport that they used to enjoy. "But I still love to ride!" you'll say to me, and I believe you guys. But there's always unerlying motives that you're more in tune with. Everyone that gets shafted feels the urge to unleash an outburst like Roger did and the SL event, but the early off-road motorcycling enthusiasts didn't make the kind of money that freestyle motocross riders do today.
I think that motocross, and it's devilish spawn freestyle motocross, are a fluke. It came around at just the right time in our society, and captured the interest of a newly expanding demographic. It was fueled by youth, and imagination, and the hopes that everyone has. Everyone who could go out and buy a motorcycle could do it, legally. Then, when the elite emerged and showed the rest of the motorcycling community that they had the cajones to do things that the ordinary Joe couldn't do, the cream began to get scraped off and glorified. But I'm getting off track.
Early motocross champs weren't millionaires, they were ordinary joes working their *** off every day just like Roger. When they realized the prize money wouldn't add up to enough to take the family out to eat, they had to find a different source of income. Just like in many other race circles, the early champs moved to research and development, building bikes and parts that could make the ordinary joe think he could win races, too.
I've got to ****, and I've forgotten where this train was headed. So I'll just say, Tony D (and others in his circle), if you've made the decision to make a living off this and you're upset with the dividends, don't try to make money by telling us to try harder. Make money by making the rest of us want to spend money on you. Use your name with whatever weight it can throw around in the stunt community to sell something. Shows and competitions are decades away from making you a millionaire. This is not a sport, this is a niche that I highly doubt will make it into the "sport" category amongst all the other growing niches that hope to one day be a sport. I don't think the soft-minded citizens of the United States have room for another freestyle motocross.
"Stuntriding" is a niche in the sport of motorcycling. Much like off-road motorcycling was in its early days, and then progressed to what we now see in motocross and the like. They all started out the way this niche did; a bunch of enthusiasts that enjoyed what they were doing. Many of these so-called professionals in our sheltered little corner of the sports spectrum, have lost sight of what made these other sports excel. They've lost sight of desire and enjoyment, because they're constantly averted by trying to make a living in the same sport that they used to enjoy. "But I still love to ride!" you'll say to me, and I believe you guys. But there's always unerlying motives that you're more in tune with. Everyone that gets shafted feels the urge to unleash an outburst like Roger did and the SL event, but the early off-road motorcycling enthusiasts didn't make the kind of money that freestyle motocross riders do today.
I think that motocross, and it's devilish spawn freestyle motocross, are a fluke. It came around at just the right time in our society, and captured the interest of a newly expanding demographic. It was fueled by youth, and imagination, and the hopes that everyone has. Everyone who could go out and buy a motorcycle could do it, legally. Then, when the elite emerged and showed the rest of the motorcycling community that they had the cajones to do things that the ordinary Joe couldn't do, the cream began to get scraped off and glorified. But I'm getting off track.
Early motocross champs weren't millionaires, they were ordinary joes working their *** off every day just like Roger. When they realized the prize money wouldn't add up to enough to take the family out to eat, they had to find a different source of income. Just like in many other race circles, the early champs moved to research and development, building bikes and parts that could make the ordinary joe think he could win races, too.
I've got to ****, and I've forgotten where this train was headed. So I'll just say, Tony D (and others in his circle), if you've made the decision to make a living off this and you're upset with the dividends, don't try to make money by telling us to try harder. Make money by making the rest of us want to spend money on you. Use your name with whatever weight it can throw around in the stunt community to sell something. Shows and competitions are decades away from making you a millionaire. This is not a sport, this is a niche that I highly doubt will make it into the "sport" category amongst all the other growing niches that hope to one day be a sport. I don't think the soft-minded citizens of the United States have room for another freestyle motocross.
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Re: Think about this
what's funny to me is that ya'll are thinking I pissed on his face, burned down his house, stabbed his tires, and choked his ***. all I did was call him out on some issues he should respect as a "stunt promoter".
I'll tell ya what. You pansies keep swinging on the nuts of all these schmucks trying to make a quick buck. I'll keep riding and keeping up w/ the pace that none of you cheerleaders are prepared for.
jimmy, don't make me laugh w/ your misunderstanding of my riding ability.
I'll tell ya what. You pansies keep swinging on the nuts of all these schmucks trying to make a quick buck. I'll keep riding and keeping up w/ the pace that none of you cheerleaders are prepared for.
jimmy, don't make me laugh w/ your misunderstanding of my riding ability.
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Re: Think about this
YO Rodg, you definetly got heart kid, I really enjoyed reading your posts here.
Rodg definatly proves a couple of points here, Ryan Cramer, you too.
Im going to go in depth a bit fruther when I have a little time to type.
Ill be back soon---
Rodg definatly proves a couple of points here, Ryan Cramer, you too.
Im going to go in depth a bit fruther when I have a little time to type.
Ill be back soon---
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Re: Think about this
i'm currently watching the competitive sport of hot dog eating on espn. i **** you not they are calling dudes athletes. most ridiculous thing I've ever witnessed. if they can make hot dog eating a sport, we can make this a sport, we just need to lose the leaches.
"he's the finest competitive eater of all time"
oh man!!! the irony. who else saw that ****?
"he's the finest competitive eater of all time"
oh man!!! the irony. who else saw that ****?
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Re: Think about this
Originally Posted by XRodgCC
i'm currently watching the competitive sport of hot dog eating on espn. i **** you not they are calling dudes athletes. most ridiculous thing I've ever witnessed. if they can make hot dog eating a sport, we can make this a sport, we just need to lose the leaches.
"he's the finest competitive eater of all time"
oh man!!! the irony. who else saw that ****?
"he's the finest competitive eater of all time"
oh man!!! the irony. who else saw that ****?
Ok....how is it decided who is/isn't a leach of this future sport?
Had to pass on that hot dog eating event
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Re: Think about this
There are tons of people trying to break into just about every sport there is. But do you hear the big name, big money basketball players telling the high school kid in the gym shooting hoops to "give it up, you will never be as good as me, and you are dilluting the sport???" Of course not. I don't see this "sport" being anything except a half time space filler until the attitudes and egos change, and it gets organized. Until then, everyone can argue over the same tired subjects- who is better than who, you don't dererve to be here, throw in lots of **** talking, blah blah blah........
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Re: Think about this
People who tell others that they are never going to be as good as them and they are "dilluting the sport" or whatever need to just shut the **** up and get off their high horse. Sure, they may be sick on a bike. Sure, the person they are telling it to may never be as good as them, but hey, power is in numbers, and the more stunters we have, even if they can only pull a wheelie for 10 yards and thats it, is still a stunter at heart, otherwise he wouldn't be risking his body trying to do these things. Having lesser people who aren't as good as you is what makes you a pro. If it was just all good people, then you couldn't tell the difference between amatuer and pro classings. But yeah, making this into a professional X-Games worthy sport would be kick ***.
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Re: Think about this
There are only so many "pros" out there doing shows. So an amateur team shouldn't go out and try to book shows and make some dough for themselves? Why not?? It's not like the amateurs are taking shows away from the big name guys. There are no "pros" around here and a ton of events to book. Is Todd Colbert or the Starboyz going to come to PA to do a show at the local drag strip? Don't think so. So who will do it? Are you going to fly in here from where ever to do it for what they pay? Once again, don't think so.
What if someone with a bigger name and who was better at stunting told you that you were a leech and should pack it in? Would you stop and say "Oops, sorry!"? No. You'd tell them to F*ck off and keep doing your thing. Why is there always so much hate?? There will always be someone bigger and better than you, and there will always be people who are not as good as you. It's a fact of life. How you treat those not quite as good as you, shows your true character.
What if someone with a bigger name and who was better at stunting told you that you were a leech and should pack it in? Would you stop and say "Oops, sorry!"? No. You'd tell them to F*ck off and keep doing your thing. Why is there always so much hate?? There will always be someone bigger and better than you, and there will always be people who are not as good as you. It's a fact of life. How you treat those not quite as good as you, shows your true character.
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Re: Think about this
Originally Posted by Tony D
LOL! Funny how people ASSUME things----- I run a forklift to pay the bills!!!!
