is it me or do u hate these new competions---by that i mean xsba-----lets see motorcycle stuntin is an art---self expression---its misunderstood cause all good art is---its like rain falling on a roof no too drops sound alike---anyway im sick of tha rules in these competions like wearing gear!!!!!! i dont wear gear in traffic weelin while chewin gum why would i do it their!!!! my clothes are part of my art!!! u take it away and your lackin the back ground!!!! how is it freestyle when their r rules!!! thats like sayin u have wireless cable!!!!!!! its like raceing now-- money money ---money --travilin rules its a little bit cookie cutter---its like skateboardin--- tha x-games is so formated its silly--mountain dew bill boards exteme snack commercials---and pree made ramps????? its a little boring--but pop in a street vid wow these guys r nuts!!!! i would not try it and i ride wheelys past pig stations!!!!! i mean 3 stair cases in a alley no gear on-- and on a piece of wood!!!!! thats sick! its whats happinen to freestyle motorcycle ridin its street art like tagin on trains ---its a way to get respect from peeps in da streets--now u want to market a way of life and self expression???????? if i need to make money from it ill make a vid or edit other peeps--thats it---but tryin to get 10000 people to a stunt event across tha country to watch guys in power ranger suits followin rules is not gonna happin!!! i love bikes and stuntin more than anyone if it wasint for them i would have killed myself years ago i got them tattooed all over me im a die hard---ive been hit by cars and am never gonna stop--but dont like tha competion thing ---what do u think---and if u think im lyin here r sum pics--- http://loudfastugly.5u.com//rollazs.htm

 

once again im sorry i have a different view on life bein from tha city--if your not please dont post bak cause u will never get it---ive been ridin on streets since 94----how long u been ridin on streets
???????????? im talkin about corporate takover of sumthing we been doin here in the city for years and years---and its about self expression----ive been down many times and wish no harm to anyone--but if u fok up u get foked up!!! thats life live and learn--its part of tha street life---let me ask u have u ever been in a shooting or got chased by a knife i have--i should not have went to tha club that nite but did thats life--r u gonna stop and not live????? its street it started here and there are people in tha middle of no were who dont have a clue how it started -for those who dont know see starboyz ftp 1and 2 and wink 1100 ruff ryders

 

dude you have to be able to accept both street riding and competition riding, the sport gets exposure and new riders which we all like to see through competition and public events. i think the more competitions there are, then the more people wont think we are just some crazy ******** out tearin up the streets. i love competitions and cant wit till im good enough to be able to ride with the pros, until then, ill stay on the streets and beef my skills up, you cant hate on either type of riding, we all start on the street and strive to be able to ride competition.

 

im ganna let tha cat out of tha bag--im (rollazs) makin a vid to show what i do and what other people do evry day its gonna b different--but am having trouble cause im takin money out of my pocket to pay people and am not takin money off sales!!!!! all proceeds go to charity!!!!!!1 half is goin to endangered species and tha other to cancer research!!!!!!!!!!! i dont want money for my art!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a way of life !!!! all im sayin is dont let corporats takeover hapen---here your contract-heres your limo---heres your money--do sum of those burnouts then say slim jim rocks!!!!!!! tha kid that will be told that is 18!!!!!! make sure tha history is not diluted for tha young and stupid!!! were was my slim jim comercial in 96??????? i dont want one i just wanna stunt for tha kids in tha hood who got nutin to do all day--and to influence people to let them no there is another way of life--u dont have to b sittin in traffic---u dont have to let people think your cool cause u bough an overpriced car!!! its becoming corporate if u let that happen it will take tha spark out--its packadged its cookie cutter-fine have comps but make sure their real!

 

I've been shot at and chased with all sorts of things. I guess that gives me the right to dog the sport, right??? So you grew up the city, huh?? So did a lot of the stunterz on this board, but I don't see any of them talking meaningless bullshit about all the respect and recognition that everyone here has worked so hard to achieve. Damn, bro, don't you have something better to do, like learning to walk and chew gum at the same time???

 

LOL is all i have to say to this thread

 

wink is representing tha streets its ok ---i live down tha street from him--hes keepin it real---all i know is before computers he was all i heard of around here and was original---and of course i mean corp events------and ive been around bikes my hole life there is original things like them tha starboyzs and wink witch were not influenced by any one but themselves and were the first to market them in america--first vid out starboyzs first music vid out dmx ruff ryders -i live here i know

 

why do people on this board have nuthin 2 say--i ask a question do u think its bad for corp to take over freestyle--- whats my responces sum one from were in florida??? and smilies????? if u dont have a inteligent responce to put up them do u think ur jay leno with those one liners??????? were im from people in tha streets-- -- strangers-- ask you to do sum **** for them --evryday ------its different up here ---no one understands what thats like unless u live here---not another city this one----evryday people ask u if your on a sport bike--- and there standin on tha corner or in a car to throw it up----its different up here

 

Dude..what the hell are you saying. That we should keep this sport underground?

First off, yeah, riding streets is still holding **** down old school. Thats where it started, but why would you wanna keep it there? Anything that remains stagnant long enough will die. Even though it is held in the heart and mind of the individual, realistically speaking....it's dead. Commercialization is one of the best things that could happen to this sport. Back when i started riding there were no companies making crash cages or scrape bars. That all came about through commercialization, the construction of a market for these items. The only way a market can be constructed is by educating the general public about the sport.

How organized is one or two dudes jacking wheelies down a lonely strip of road for locals? Granted, i still enjoy this and its what i do most, when you organize an event where people become educated about the sport (such as XSBA, Stunt Wars, Englishtown Wheelie Contest etc.) it sparks interest in the general public. The general public is the group thats gonna build the foundation for advancement...not the local crowd hanging down at the spot. Now like i said, i am all about keeping **** back alley style, jacking wheelies on straights (WITHOUT TRAFFIC) on the highway, or rolling em up to lights, but by no means am i gonna leave it at that.

Make no mistake either, its not about money, no one is gonna see money from this sport, maybe our grandkids will. Its all about blowing **** up. Its about taking the best stunters, putting them in one spot, and seeing whos the best. Rules or no rules, if you truly love the sport then the rules are just coincidental.

 

No its not bro, i live in Dirty Jerzy. Underground, Loose Riders, Ruthless, hell the Ruff Ryders are over here alot too. Everytime i ride, my **** furred out, dented in tank with grip pad on it, people know whats up...i give them what they want. Crank it up for em, roll one up to a light next to them....

Let me ask you something? Why do they know whats up? Because theres sooooo many stunters round here doing there thing on the streets? Hell no....i'll be lucky if i go out on a sunday afternoon in the summer and see someone jack a standup wheelie even. The know whats up because of stunt videos, stunt groups in music videos, and stunt competitions in their local area. Thats ALL CALLED commercialization. ****...half of the people i know see me do something and they'll be like "Oh ****...i saw that in a DMX video" once again....commercialization.

 

As for the gear issue at competitions....it's called liability. Even if you were to sign a waiver some ******* would find a way to say "Well they should have implemented stronger safety rules." amd sue them.

Look at professional skateboarding competitions, all the events require the riders to wear safety gear, no one gives a hoot if they wear it or not while praticing...but come event time you're gonna see everyone wearing a helmet at least. Same goes for all competitions of the same caliber.

Now I don't want to sound like an *** here, but from reading your last 2 threads that you started it seems to me that you're trolling for attention.

 

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the XSBA corporate takeover ehh??

You have no idea. Educate yourself about the XSBA then speak up.

All the XSBA does is provide a stable format for riders to earn a living, get sponsors and gain mainstream respect doing what they love....bottom line

Leather suits? No comment (educate yourself)
Competitions not real?? Ask a competitor

you have just insulted the best riders in the nation, the ones that actually take the time and compete in the national series.

In addition, you have just insulted me.... The NY Thug who happens to manage the XSBA and loves to stunt....

with that being said, have a nice day!

Thomas

 

ive wrecked many times--bones heal and its my body my choice--and i hate vettes---anyway im trying to make sure no gets but surfed by corporate jerks cause evryone is rushing this sport and r gonna sell themselves and this sport out-to contract agreements---and *** on over evryone here knows im good i do it all tha time evryday ill show u---im trying to help by makin people think not rush into tha future

 

if tha xsba is so good why do so many already established groups shy away?????? and its not good to try and make this a clean family sport that makes money---this was founded on the street illegally and is still illegal---car street racing is illegal and tha nhra makes mad money do u think it will ever b as popular????? this sport will never b basketball for me its funny to see sum 18year old think they run it---ask them what stunting means to them--is it fame or money either way its wrong--its sumthing in your heart that u should not need any respect from a trophy--it should b in u

 

The only reason you get the responses you do is you come off attacking the commercialization of the sport. You said it yourself Geiststar, there's still street racing while the NHRA does their thing. Well, XSBA can do their shiznit and you can keep doing it on the street. Do what you want and let others do the same. That's my .02

 

PEOPLE POINTING OUT THE ERROR IN GEISTSTAR'S LOGIC WILL NEVER GET THROUGH TO HIM.... PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.... ITS GETTING PRETTY DEEP IN HERE....