dont be scared to say who it was

 

Is this place not gated or something.....This is like a public pool not having a gate around their pool and just saying well when we are closed and there are no workers just make sure you sign the waiver for if you drown.

 

yo I am not going to sit here and bastardize this thread because it is a serious topic to all the people that ride there. That is respect. But from your last post,looks to me like " THE TRUTH HURTS " . Well I am done with this thread due to respect and don't want to bastardize it. I'm Out

 

This is more like jumping the pool gate for swim and taking a huge **** in the pool. And then leave like it was nothing.

 

Guys I know Mike is goin off a little right now, I think most would understand when you have an actual dragstrip that allows you to stunt 7 days a week for free and someone comes in a fu@ks it up for all the locals, the locals aren't going to be very happy about it.
Thanks for the support, we all know what it's like to lose a practice spot I'm sure, this is a bit close to home though. Most people have been there or have heard of Lakeland and at least know that when they do make it down to Florida, they have that place to ride there.
Some info is coming forward and thanks to those that are helping out.
To answer a few questions and like DetroitStyle asked. There are not track officials at Lakeland at all times, there are times you are the only one there and times there are a couple few dozen. It's pretty open to whoever wants to pull up which is one of the great things but also one of it's down falls. If the owner gets past this BS he has had to delt with lately maybe it'll get back to normal again for the locals in the future but that isn't a guarentee at this point.
Looks like it's time to lock the gate back up and just allow a few locals to gain access with a key again.

 

Oh so I see these people that broke in there just lifted their bikes over the fence that was surronding the track and rode all day.

 

First off the point to ALL of this is simply......that whether the gate was wide open or not unless you're with someone who knows what the "rules" are.....you had NO BUSINESS being at our track!

Sorry if that offends some of you. As far as it being said that this is ALL out of towners I know for a FACT that this is not the entire truth. Roy and Kevin both have sat down with Steve and I and explained that if certain local crews didn't start "following the rules" they were going to shut down the track.

I for one am disgusted that ANYONE would even consider stunting on someone else's property that is "cop free" without at least the respect of getting their permission FIRST! If no one was there and you don't know the rules....WAIT! Go back to F'in Kindergarden Rule #1 If it is NOT yours....DON'T touch it, until you ask permission!

And as far as it being the Track's duties to staff the facilities....maybe you missed the part about it being FREE! If you need the staff members there to know what to do....then they're going to charge a gate fee to practice??! Sounds like a great idea to me.

And if that guy that "marked off the oil spots with cones.....why not take the little bit of extra time and throw the sand on it or what not....even if it ain't yours....you should've been the bigger man and stepped up to the plate. IMO....if you were out there during those days....you're all equally responsible.

 

I don't believe there were to many locals out there this week. As in Locals, I mean been going to Lakeland for over 1 or more years. Also, I know Roy and he is all about the Benjamin's so I am sure the waiver was the very least of his concerns. It becomes a problem when something is done to cost him more money on our behalf. For instance, having his workers take their time to clean up our oil spills & trash, doing burnouts on the black surface causing his workers to redo the entire surface, or going out and destroying his property (aka..timing sensors)....all of these acts cause him money out of his pocket in the long run.

Either way, I hope that we can convince him to change his mind about letting us ride there. At this point I could care less if it was restricted to particular teams or individuals. If anything, make it so there is always at least one authorized local(approved by Roy) to help supervise things. That way that particular local(s) will be held responsible if something like this does go down. If there are no approved locals there at the time than nobody gets to ride...clear and simple. Roy was gracious enough to have "Trust" in us to leave the gets open at all times...that will probably change now.

 

 

no lifting involved...u can ride in on the side os the gate, but that will also change.

 

Easier than that actually.
Like I said that is one downfall, anyone can get in quite easily. I hope that changes immediatly.

 

What can I add that hasn't been said? I've been trying to arrange a place for us to play in this part of Florida since November, and it's hard. Anyone who makes us take a step back in this society, we can do without.

 

Why is everyone so shocked that something like this happend? They were just keeping it gangster. Its the same lack of respect for the highways, streets and parking lots spilling over. The track at that moment just became another place to fullfill somebodies needs.

 

sombody should rape then in the @$$ with sandpaper

 

I moved here from MA because of Lakeland, along with about a dozen other stunt riders from around the country (not including the 4 dozen FL riders) that didn't have the opportunity to ride somewhere like ROY has willingly set up for us to ride (which in all honesty, has put up his property, his liability and his trust for us to have a place to ride when we legally had & still have NOWHERE to ride)!

As we've all grown with this sport, we've had a number of incidents from hotel destructions to spots/dragstrips/property being destroyed and just plain disrespect to everyone & everything that puts up a slightest interest and gives us avenues to help make this sport grow.

Anyhow, it was just a matter of time something like this happened, I see it every day, every where I go with this sport, and unfortunately, because of it, this sport hasn't made one step in the right direction.

I just recently moved closer to the track and decided to get with a few teams that are looking at training & practicing on a weekly/daily basis, including the guys from GSE, REDLINE, EVASIVE, and some others...but now we can't do that because a few "visitors" have decided they were going to leave their diaper all over the LARGEST AND MOST GIVING STUNT SANCTIONED TRACK IN THE US...cause "it was cool"...

I just wish this would sink in and people could just have even the slightest bit of respect...man it's not asking much, just a little from everyone...and it'd go a long way...

Guys, if there is anything I can do to help contribute to Lakeland so we can ride there, let me know, whether it be cleaning up the track weekly or "guarding the doors" when we are there, it doesn't matter...I don't want to see the track shut down, I'd rather see the locals and their "SIGNED" in guests ride there for sure!

Johnny

 

When I saw the title of this thread and then started reading the first post, I was an inch from grabbing my friends and going around the track to the locals' houses and asking what those punk ****** looked like and what their bikes looked like. Then I read on and discovered that it wasn't the same Lakeland that I ride at. In Tennessee, There are a few big *** tracks and places where people do test and tunes and all sorts of other stuff like SCCA autoXs and stuff like that. There isn't anywhere where stunterz of all types, bikes, fourwheelers, motorcycles, skateboards, etc. can all meet up at and use. A long time ago, I discovered something just up the street from my house. I was at a local strip mall and saw a little dirt road leading up into the woods. I followed it up there just cause I'm a curious phucker. There was stuff blocking the path all over the place and signs all over the place telling people to keep out. The signs were so old that they were on the ground and rotting. I came to a clearing and looked to my right for about 40 feet and I was like damn. What is this. Then I looked to my left and saw a half mile of racetrack and retainer walls and staging lane and an autoX track. I was (the now dead and barried) Lakeland International Speedway in Tenessee. All of the stands and **** are gone but it still serves the only purpose I need. I place in the middle of the woods, nice and secluded to practice all tricks and **** I want on a nice blacktop a half mile long. Since I've been going there, some people on fourwheelers, some guys on bicycles and some skateboarders have started coming up there. The loclas around the place know we go up there but they don't mind cause we never leave anything there and we don't ***** with anybody. When I started reading this post, I started getting super pissed thinking that you were talking about my practice track.

 

How unfortunate for the locals of Florida. This does however happen quite a bit across the US. For instance, in Oklahoma, we have about 3-4 warehouses that we frequent(about 4-8 of us) on any given weekend. We have this spot we have been riding at for approximately 6 months now without a problem(NO security, NO cops).... nothing. Anyways, this past weekend, somehow about 20-30 people showed..... and of course the cops were called(most likely the people going in and out of the warehouse district). Long story short, the cop was cool but told us not to ride there anymore, so we will of course try again next week, hopefully without the crowd, and see what happens...

It seems like a riding spot always gets busted sooner or later, because of burnout marks, too many people, or trashed getting left behind by spectators.

Anywho, back to the subject of Lakeland, I have rode there once this past Biketoberfest '03, and did not know that a waiver had to be signed until Jimmy from Redline X told myself and Eric H. that we needed to sign it to ride. Of course there was not a problem, but I did not know that there were waivers there, and I know most of the stunters that frequent this spot, but everyone failed to mention it to us accept for Jimmy!

This is what I propose you guys do in the future.......

Get everyone that is involved, or stunts(local groups, riders, etc) at this spot to get together one weekend, and talk about rules, who should be riding out there, etc. etc. Make up some sort of rule list(of course Roy would be involved it that), and make up a sign with the rules and have i posted inlike 2 spots at the end of the track(as gay as that sounds).

It sounds as though during in given week, accept for special events(biketoberfest, Bike week, stuntwars week, etc.) you guys are not having a problem with trash, etc. Maybe talk to Roy and say during these so-called special weeks(like the week before said event), everyone riding(accept for locals or whatever) needs to pay 5.00 per person, to get out and ride, and even charge spectators(because they seem to leave trash just as much as riders). How you would charge would be have one or 2 people at the front gate, and then switch off every once in awhile. At the end of the day, give like 40 or 50% to Roy(to make him all warm inside), and use the other 50 or 60 % goes to the team that helps out(gate attendants, clean up everyone trash at the end of the day, etc. etc.)

We all know how peoplel show up at Lakeland the couple days beofre an event, and I have seen upwards of 200 or 300 there at a time. You take that times, 5.00 a head, divided by 2, and you could easily make a couple hundred bucks for a day of work, that could go into team shirts, decals, vid production, website costs, whatever.....


Until next time,
Scott H.
STUNTERS.COM

 

great idea scot...hopefully it is not too little too late...

 

If you guys were expecting people you dont know to respect your stunt spot...thats your own fault....THIS IS THE REAL WORLD...havent you figured out that its not a dreamworld where everyone obeys the laws and respects each other???? Ya it would be nice if it works that way but you should of known it doesnt... if you were so worried about your precious "stunt spot" your gonna have to babysit. All our spots over here on west coast get blown up from other people too...ya it sucks but thats the way it works if your not there to babysit or kick people out yourself....or if the place isnt gated...its gonna happen you should of known. Reality is over half of human kind is selfish people that don't give a crap about anyone else but themselves...

Gate that **** up...and regulate that spot...if you don't it will only be time before something like this happens again. You guys are VERY lucky to have a spot like that...id regulate the crap out of that spot its a dreamland...honestly EVERYONE shouldnt have such easy access to such a dreamland...thats somethen thats only written in fairytales not real life.

 

Great ideas Scott! I am going to be calling Roy tomorrow and try to work something out with him. I have been down for 4 months now and finally got the new bike all ready to ride this Wednesday. So, to find out this happened when it did pisses me off beyond belief!

Here is a response I got back for Lakeland in regards to a two page letter I sent until I can speak with them in person.


Seriously, why the fu@ck can you not be responsible to take 5 minutes of your fu@king time to clean up your own oil spills!?! About the part were somebody was trying to steal parts from one of the trucks out there....WHAT THE FU@K .