One of my boys wiped out last night coming down from a stand up, the bike (03 gixxer 1000) started jerking from side to side even with the stock damper that's supposed to prevent that or help at least. He was going well over 60mph. needles to say, he has plenty of roadrash and the bike is kinda messed up, his frame slider helped but not a whole lot.

 

NOTHING can stop that from happening(even the best damper).....they will help and they do...

Glad your boy is all right!

 

i've never gotten a tank slapper in a wheelie with a good damper had one really bad one without though. but the stock dampers are trash, i thought that was common knowledge.

 

yep. I had a crash and broke 5 ribs about an inch to the right of my spine. After not being able to ride for about a week and a half I couldnt stand it anymore and decided to go ride. I was riding a standup and twisted my body wrong and you know how broke ribs are and I set the front wheel down crooked and I was all over the place. I dont know how I didnt crash. I was going at least 50. The front and rear wheels were hopping up off the ground and going side to side and the front was bangin lock to lock but it chilled out and I didnt crash. That was with a stock damper.. If it wasnt there I know there would have been no saving it. I agree that the stockers are garbage but its better than nothing.

 

I ride mine with thicker oil and it works fine

 

Just buy a good one they work!

 

the only thing the stock dampner is good 4 is to keep your screen door from flapping in the wind. the only reason mine is still on is because im to lazy to remove it after installing my hyperpro

 

Stock sucks...everyone knows that!

 

You people can talk about stock dapners, aftermarket dampners all you want, but the companys that make those conversation peices are laughing all the way to the bank. Why dont you people try setting your wheelies down with the front wheel straight. I've done a billion wheelies and set them down anywhere between 10-130 mph and I've never had no tank slap, unless you're racing on a track with the big-dogs you dont need one!! just think about it when you're puttin it down (keep the wheel straight!)

 

Sure..... and then you endo an R1.

 

totally agree .... set your **** down right, and you wont have a problem .... but for high speed endos they do help. I have gotten slappers on high speed endos with stock dampner.

 

yeah your right a steering dampner doesn't do much if you don't ride your bike

 

aftermarket dampners help out big time in endos and wheelies 2. i used to tank slap my r1 all the time ,had a few to many encounters i found a shitty toby on ebay for cheap and tossed it on and only had 1 time in the past year it slapped . it only slapped for a second rather than a minute then dumping . also like they said a fewposts ago,, keep your **** straight . that 1 time was because i was wheeling around a corner and set down with the wheel cocked .. and to that other dude about endoing an r1 . its a bit harder than other bikes but i have 1 and dont have any problems crankin em up at 45-60 mph and rolling them out . i just started steering them out today maybe full 180's tomorrow . plus chauncey had 1 from what i here and could pull sick endos at 75 on it no probs .

 

With high speed wheelies, it's gonna happen from time to time. Wether you have a damper or not. It's not just about setting it down straight. It happens if you catch a rock, or a ripple in the road, or a crack or a tar strip etc. It also depends on tire condition. My front tire is toast after 8,000 miles this summer. It got to the point where EVERY highspeed (80mph or faster) one that I set down would slap a little bit. I had so many slappers this year, I hardly think twice about it. Just stay on the gas and you'll be OK. Don't chop the throttle.

Some superstars have done a billion wheelies and never had a slapper. But they ride RR's with good tires and think 45mph is fast wheelie.

Final thought? It's gonna happen. Dampers help, but the aftermarket ones are MUCH better and will lessen your chances of biting it.

 

Maybe i just have'nt seen it happen yet, but i have the 03 grand and have never had any shake out of it. Even when i know i have set the wheel down crooked, it just straightens up. Never had any problems. If that is a peice of crap damper then i would like to ride with a good one to see how they are.

 

There are five main factors in getting a slapper when setting down a wheelie.

1. Tire angle
2. Road conditions
3. Damper
4. Tire itself
5. Speed

If one or maybe two of those things is bad you'll probably be OK. Little or no shake. Any more than that... and you might be in trouble.