i understand both sides the sue'er and the az riders for real i mean i would sue if it happened just like described MAYBE and i also understand from the stunters point of view. that dude should never get on another bike anyway again.

 

i was there right after the accident. bottom line if he wins the case he becomes a millionaire and then all of AZ's Finest/stunters in that area will probably be hated on till we are all gone. Chandler pd has been cool with us at certain spots but this will prolly change everything. Hi IRON LUNG

 

is there a helmet law in AZ?

 

eye protection only

 

dood woulda been good if he woulda jumped on craigslist and took the hour long stunt course

 

probably about half the shows Ive done someone walks through the designated area, a spectator or staff or some squid who thinks its cool to come into the area and do a burnout or power wheelie, that **** happens ALOT, if your doing shows you have to expect that and keep your bike under control.

with a helmet he would probably have been fine, so the tax payers of chandler are probably going to end up paying him a few million for his mistake, does that seem right to you?

 

no bullshit

scooter trash paid show at the local drag strip one year

and this squid in full leathers in the middle of a show on the track comes out and starts doing power wheelies down the track

 

out of the 30 or more shows that i have done not one time has anyone walked through that wasnt supposed to be there and certainly nobody has ever unexpectadly driven a utility cart on the track. and no a helmet does protect your skull from being split open but it doesnt protect your brain from smashing into the inside of your skull. ive hit my head in a motorcycle helmet at 5 mph doing a rolling burnout and lost the entire 2 days before that. so i doubt wearing a helmet wouldve done him a whole lot of good. regardless of all that, yes you must keep your bike under control but.....i think of it like this. what if im comming in hot to roll a stoppie or im rolling a sit down coaster or something where i cant just turn out of the way when a utility cart drives out in hits you? cmon man, i understand why youre hating on this guy but really, if the dude is that much of a squid why isnt someone better qualified in az going out there and trying to get that show? and i dont care how you mix it up, the lady wasnt supposed to be there and theres no reason he shouldve expected to be on the look out for a rogue golf cart on a course the he had every reason to believe was closed. its not like he hi i t her, she ran into him. i mean if there was a circus clown walking on stilts through the festival and this lady ran him down would you all still be bitching saying he shouldve been wearing a helmet and ****? no, youre taking it personal because someone who isnt as skilled or professional as you might be was getting paid to do a show. dont take **** personal, take the show from them if youre better qualified.

 

the show hadnt even started, so how many of those 30 shows did people walk through the area when the show was not in progress?


there is foam and padding in a helmet that definatly absorbs alot of the impact, like crumble zones on cars



you cant be serious


he bullshitted his way into that show, promotors dont know **** about stunting


she pulled in front of him and he hit her


hes making all stunters look bad, drawing negative attention to stunt riding, his stupidity will make it harder to get shows, make building owners nervious about letting stunter use their lot for fear of getting sued, so yes I do take it personally

 

 

honestly it just sounds like you're just being a straight up hater.

We've done PLENTY of shows and if its fenced off, NO ONE EVER WALKS THROUGH DURING WARM-UPS OR THE ACTUAL SHOW.

By the article its CLEARLY shows that it was HER FAULT, not his. So how does this make stunters look bad? It makes the event coordinator look bad. It CLEARLY states that the area was fenced off for the riders. She "insisted" on going through the area. Probably got in an arguement with the staff member, he was afraid to lose his job, let her go through, she was probably a lil ticked off, and went into the area not really paying attention.

What if it had been Savage Lin coming in hot on a knee drag jump to highchair? Would you be talking all this mess? NO.

You say you should be aware and expect people to walk out in front of you? You my friend are an idiot. Don't know what kinda shows you're doing but we NEVER expect that. Thats the WHOLE POINT OF BLOCKING THE AREA OFF!

Hey maybe at the next XDL event, we should warn all the riders to watch out for golf carts and spectators walking across the track .

 

the accident was 100% her fault, but the coma and injuries he is sueing 8million for, is his fault for not wearing a helmet, and yes sdf a helmet doesnt protect your head 100% of the time, but Id bet 8 million dollars his injuries would have been way less with one.

as for the savage lin thing, it would be completyly different, he has more than enough skill to do a show and he always wears a helmet

 

i guess you dont understand. brain injuries dont happen just because your head hits something. they happen because the brain is jolted inside of the skull. which happens regardless of wearing a helmet or not. a helmet is made to keep your skull intact and does VERY little to minimize the the impact of the brain against the inside of the skull. which is why ppl die everyday when their heads hit airbags, or nothing at all just from the shear force of their brain getting whipped forward when the body makes a sudden stop. helmets yes will keep you looking pretty but they wont keep you from being a vegetable, nothing can do that for you.

 

If i were THE defense attorney, i would find a whole bunch of stunt riders and have them testify as to how a prudent stunt rider would do a show at trial. I would also have stunt riders deposed as to plaintiff's character and stunt ability. Mostly to show that the plaintiff didn't act in a reasonable manner by not wearing a helmet or sufficient gear given his actions, regardless of whether a puta drove through the area.

IMO, generally, a prudent stunt rider wears a helmet and gear, even if the law doesn't require it...i mean, in general, 90% of us wear helmets during shows or comps, regardless of whether it saves us from injury or not, and regardless of the requirements under the state law. This goes to the plaintiff's own comparitive negligence, decreasing his damages.

If it was fenced off area and someone took the risk to drive through the practice area, the action amounts to negligence on behalf of the employee and employer- vicariously. I'm sure there are other defendants that are also involved, but the city cited specifically, because it is the deepest pocket. At 8 Mill in damages, I'm sure the City's insurance carrier is involved and they have an experienced team of hungry insurance defense attorneys.

I think that the Plaintiff will receive some monetary compensation for his damages, but not the flagrant 8M- slap in the face dollar amount demanded. Depends on how sympathetic the jury is and/ or whether the City will settle to avoid the costs affiliated with going to trial.

As to the festival, if it is organized or sponsored by the City, chances are there won't be any further stunt shows (too much financial risk due to sue happy)...this is going to receive lot's of negative attention for the city (due to the tax dollars lost), and politicians don't like making mistakes twice, especially during an election year.

Either way, i hope the guy recovers to the best possible condition. Hope everything works out for the riders in the area. Hope everyone remembers to wear their gear and always keep their eyes open when they do a show or comp.

 

the question is in the link it says he was speeding down the lot where the car hit him who stunts lot speeding around?? damn fastest i go is like 10 lol

 

whatch your speedo from now on, idle pulls me at almost 10mph. im guessing you dont do any stoppies or coasters cuz if you did id like to see the results of them at 10mph. i roll into stoppies at anywhere from 50 to 70 mph and coasters the same. and who gives a **** what he was doing in the lot, she was NOT supposed to be there thats why there was a fence to protect him and to protect those not involved in the riding. she chose to breach that safety measure, she fucked up, plain and simple.

 

This is probably the dumbest post yet.

As a rider you should know that when someone says anything about a bike they are always "speeding" to the naked eye of the public. A bike "looks" like its going faster than it really is at ALL speeds.

And yeah, we ALL do endos and wheelie combos at under 10mph

 

yr actaully right i forgot all about stoppies and **** i dont do those so idk last time i tried a stoppie i flipped it and broke my collar bone so im done with those LOL!

 

This post pretty much tells me that you agree you're just hating on him cuz you don't like him


And the 8 million thing, the guy was in a coma for awhile, is STILL going to therapy 3 times a week, lost his house, and still won't be able to work for awhile. Come on, give the guy a break. Regardless of his skill level, he lost EVERYTHING right now cuz the lady was an idiot and crashed into him. Its not like he crashed on his own account and now he's trying to sue the event. He has a very valid case here.

Oh and we all know he isn't going to get 8 million. His lawyer is the one that is asking for that amount knowing damn well the city will settle out of court for a much lower amount.

 

negligence across the board with all parties. its not like he was sitting at a stoplight and got rearended