Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

Old Feb 8, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

Hey guys, just want some input... I think I pretty much mastered my 400ex quad,
with wheelies that is, I have a hand brake on it and can ride at 11:30-12 for ever...

With that said, im having trouble slowing down the wheelies on my bike (F4i)... 30mph+
I can pretty much find bp but havent used my back brake yet, All engine brake to bring
it back down, should I go at it same way as my quad, other than the obvious 2 wheels,
is there really much a difference in wheelies on a quad or bike??? Thanks for your help

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Re: Quad vs Bike

Originally Posted by ntseles
Hey guys, just want some input... I think I pretty much mastered my 400ex quad,
with wheelies that is, I have a hand brake on it and can ride at 11:30-12 for ever...

With that said, im having trouble slowing down the wheelies on my bike (F4i)... 30mph+
I can pretty much find bp but havent used my back brake yet, All engine brake to bring
it back down, should I go at it same way as my quad, other than the obvious 2 wheels,
is there really much a difference in wheelies on a quad or bike??? Thanks for your help
....hmm quads are easy and bikes are not. i dont really know how else to answer your question. i woudnt expect anything to transfer from a quad to a bike except maybe the clutching up function and rear brake work. but if you had a hb on your quad and didnt use the foot brake and dont ahve a hb on your bike then that didnt really help ya much. you have to use your brake if you want to ride idle/real slow. if ur just doing street wheelies you can make good bp wheelies with no use of the brake although its a real good idea to be comfortable using it just incase.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Re: Quad vs Bike

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....hmm quads are easy and bikes are not. i dont really know how else to answer your question. i woudnt expect anything to transfer from a quad to a bike except maybe the clutching up function and rear brake work. but if you had a hb on your quad and didnt use the foot brake and dont ahve a hb on your bike then that didnt really help ya much. you have to use your brake if you want to ride idle/real slow. if ur just doing street wheelies you can make good bp wheelies with no use of the brake although its a real good idea to be comfortable using it just incase.
Thanks for the tip, I always keep my foot hovered over the rear brake
on the streets just never seemed to need it... The hardest part for me is
launching first from a dead stop... The bike pops quick and I let off the
throttle like a bitch... I guess I just gotta say fk it and loop it just to
get it out of my head
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Re: Quad vs Bike

Originally Posted by ntseles
Thanks for the tip, I always keep my foot hovered over the rear brake
on the streets just never seemed to need it... The hardest part for me is
launching first from a dead stop... The bike pops quick and I let off the
throttle like a bitch... I guess I just gotta say fk it and loop it just to
get it out of my head
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Re: Quad vs Bike

Originally Posted by ntseles
Thanks for the tip, I always keep my foot hovered over the rear brake
on the streets just never seemed to need it... The hardest part for me is
launching first from a dead stop... The bike pops quick and I let off the
throttle like a bitch... I guess I just gotta say fk it and loop it just to
get it out of my head
well get used to using it even when you dont need it. like when youre on the streets riding a wheelie and u want to put the wheelie down, instead of just dropping off the throttle try tapping the brake to bring it down. keep doing that tilll its second nature then when you clutch from a dead stop, you can clutch right up and catch it with the brake. it becomes much easier to keep it slow if ur not throttleing all the way up. clutch it all the way up to the brake and it will catch idle immediately and youll avoid chopping throttle.
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Re: Quad vs Bike

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well get used to using it even when you dont need it. like when youre on the streets riding a wheelie and u want to put the wheelie down, instead of just dropping off the throttle try tapping the brake to bring it down. keep doing that tilll its second nature then when you clutch from a dead stop, you can clutch right up and catch it with the brake. it becomes much easier to keep it slow if ur not throttleing all the way up. clutch it all the way up to the brake and it will catch idle immediately and youll avoid chopping throttle.
I see. I notice that I chop alot trying to get up. Launching right
to bp and catching with brake is the way to do it your sayin? Not
clutch pop then throttle up?
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Re: Quad vs Bike

Originally Posted by sdfkillz
well get used to using it even when you dont need it. like when youre on the streets riding a wheelie and u want to put the wheelie down, instead of just dropping off the throttle try tapping the brake to bring it down. keep doing that tilll its second nature then when you clutch from a dead stop, you can clutch right up and catch it with the brake. it becomes much easier to keep it slow if ur not throttleing all the way up. clutch it all the way up to the brake and it will catch idle immediately and youll avoid chopping throttle.
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

i see alota peeps crankin the idle up to around 3500 rpm and from nearly a dead stop just clutch it up then catch with brake... anything wrong with this concept?
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

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i see alota peeps crankin the idle up to around 3500 rpm and from nearly a dead stop just clutch it up then catch with brake... anything wrong with this concept?
Sounds kinda high... But my opinion means ****, I cant clutch up from
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

i usally have my idle around 3500 it gets rid of the enging brake
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

dont forget to drop tire psi...
yea it ****** hurt...i squided it end of story... lol
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

Hey ntseles Im having the exact same problems. I can do the quad stuff but the bikes are much much much more difficult.
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

Originally Posted by palerider90
Hey ntseles Im having the exact same problems. I can do the quad stuff but the bikes are much much much more difficult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xL2bIbVEh4
watching this helps some...
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

Originally Posted by ntseles
Hey guys, just want some input... I think I pretty much mastered my 400ex quad,
with wheelies that is, I have a hand brake on it and can ride at 11:30-12 for ever...

With that said, im having trouble slowing down the wheelies on my bike (F4i)... 30mph+
I can pretty much find bp but havent used my back brake yet, All engine brake to bring
it back down, should I go at it same way as my quad, other than the obvious 2 wheels,
is there really much a difference in wheelies on a quad or bike??? Thanks for your help


if you havent used the brake and engine break is bringin u down then ur not straigh up, when u think ur straight up come back 4 more inches
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

Originally Posted by ntseles
Sounds kinda high... But my opinion means ****, I cant clutch up from
a dead stop anywayz...

P.S. Your avatar is pretty damn disgusting
4wheeler and bike 2 different worlds if u wana just play with it get a fiddy they are fun, but if you wana learn listen to what they tell u becuz for them not to be realy trashin u for a squid question is outstanding, i couldnt leave a anykind of reply for a long time without sum1 givin me ****
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

stunting on a 4 wheeler is gay!
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

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stunting on a 4 wheeler is gay!
i disagree... i love ridin quads every now and then... and i've learned a few tricks on a quad that helped me on the bike... just keep practicin and use ur brake... gradually bring ur bike higher and higher and smooth it out with the brake... once u start slowin down then its time to start clutchin up from a dead stop
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

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i disagree... i love ridin quads every now and then... and i've learned a few tricks on a quad that helped me on the bike... just keep practicin and use ur brake... gradually bring ur bike higher and higher and smooth it out with the brake... once u start slowin down then its time to start clutchin up from a dead stop

what stunt did you learn on the 4 wheeler that helped you on a street bike?
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Re: Quad wheelie vs Bike wheelie

Originally Posted by crazy636stunter
what stunt did you learn on the 4 wheeler that helped you on a street bike?
merk step to high chair and different through the bar jumps... and the quad didnt have a hand brake

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