Originally Posted by Ethiopian

i wish there was just a freeride event. i just go to ride with everbody, **** the comps.

Originally Posted by kado

+1

The $5 was ADMISSION not rider registration, and if you guys would read the STUNTWARS rules it states:
Rider membership available for $40 this gets you in the event and signed up for the individual freestyle event for each StuntWars event for the 2009 season.

Registration and Sign up per Class $40 per event and $100 for team Event.

To CIX J.J.
SIC J nailed it right on the head, if you think i payed money to read the back of your shirt your are an IDIOT.

Originally Posted by CIX J.J.

What if it was a really cool shirt?

Originally Posted by Ethiopian

I just realized I have no idea where Kentucky is located

Originally Posted by CIX J.J.

What if it was a really cool shirt?

Originally Posted by StuntBlondie

I can understand the frustrations of people not being able to film but common sense goes a long way!!!!!! In October (Stuntoberfest, which is a much smaller event) there was much more freedom in riders, the media list, riders girlfriends, riders camera guy, etc. to be in the infield and it turned into complete craziness. Major media were unable to get important shots because people were in the way, judges were having a hard time seeing, camera people that were there to "just film their buddies run" ended up trying to stand down there all day long then giving security and attitude when they came by for media pass checks and asked to leave. If you were listening, on Sunday RayRay constantly had to yell at what media that was out there. Imagine if there were more. It’s a lose-lose situation. You completely accommodate the riders and have them let whoever they want down there then you lose your media because they are pissed they cant get the shots and everyone is in their way. SW loses! You tighten up on security keeping the infield to the necessities or somewhere close to it so that media with confirmed credentials can get the shots they need and everyone complains they cant come down there and film their friends. Again SW loses! In an unrealistic world, riders would be allowed a gf or wife and a camera person during their run and then exit the track immediately following that run for the next riders guests but that doesn’t happen!!!! It was proven in October! I haven’t even touched on liability and insurance issues! Think about it!
If you don’t keep media satisfied there is no media coverage, without media coverage there are no sponsors, if there are no sponsors this event and sport will take 15 steps backwards. If you are the type that does care about the event and sport getting more and more sponsors and growing to a truly profession level this would all be understandable, if not then why are you at SW and not just riding in a lot somewhere?
All of you always say its about the money……………. How is this about the money? If it were about the money Todd could make himself the only one out there with a handycam filming every ones run, burning it a disk and selling it for $20. Instead Todd thought about the riders and had SW pay8 camera men, pay for a lift thing for some cool shots, pay for over 40 tapes, and is going to be working his *** off to make a dvd that will keep everyone happy and give everybody the recognition they deserve for all the hard work that they do.
If everybody would work with SW instead of against it things could go a lot smoother. For those of you that feel you should have been given a media pass and weren’t please consider the fact that there were between 25 and 30 media that were accepted and every single one had very credible credentials. Its not a personal matter it’s a professional decision. As for people not being able to use SW footage in their own videos isn’t the issue at hand because that does only promote the event. Its an issue of room in the infield and safety.

Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN

I feel your pain, but it could be much worse. Yeah the spot they gave riders to video from sucks *** and from that spot, the footage is 99% useless. We are lucky they allow us to film anything. Stuntwars is one of the biggest stunt events in the world. Other big organizations dont allow video taping at all. Have you ever been to a moto gp, ama, supercross, arenacross race, monster jam, xgames, etc show? They own all filming rights and dont allow you to record anything unless you have proper credentials!

Originally Posted by Valeska

All very well put and POV well defended. I see BOTH sides' perspectives. But it does NOT have to be all one or the other! The attempts of the past 2 events demonstrated that does not work, as you explained. COMPROMISE is the key. The idea of each rider having 1 person allowed in the pit would have been nice to have been allowed as it was apparently offered were it not for security, but even then I can see how at such a large event that would still be a large number...

If I might toss in my , what I would offer as a suggestion is that each rider as he is in the staging line-up is permitted to be accompanied by 1 or 2 people (for each end of the track) to film only that run. They are allowed a temporary pass onto the pits as the rider is given his temporary time on the track. When the rider's time is up, so is the personal media assistant's. This would only increase the media count by that 1 or 2 people, and everyone would have the opportunity to have their own run captured for their own review or use. The rest of the event they would have to deal just as everyone else does to see & film what they could. This would be truly fair for all. And totally feasible. Easily so. What say?

Originally Posted by wheelburns

I call bullshit, I was at moto gp indy and atleast 1 out of every 5 people has a video camera including myself. No one stopped us or even questioned the filming.