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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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So, another stuntwarz has passed and more people are pissed off. There are various reasons for this anger, and here is mine. I know this will sound like a rant, and some of you dbags will say i'm wining and yada yada, but I don't really care.

The seed of my hatred began when my when my teammate, Sick Trick Rick, made it to the finals of the endo comp. Naturally, I was ecstatic for him, but when I tried to get some video footage and pics, for our future video, I was a little less enthusiastic.

I was wanting to go down into the pits so I could get the best footage possible. I was told that wouldn't happen and then I went around asking people like guru and mikey Nicely if there was any way I could get down there. Of course they said, good luck, but I doubt it. I was informed that I had to apply for a media pass MORE THAN 3 MONTHS in advance. I don't know if they charge for it, but like everything else involved in stuntwarz, I'm sure preference would have been given to the people that can financially benefit stuntwarz the most.....so **** the little guy, being me!!

Because I couldn't go down in the pits, I tried to ride the fifty up to the grandstands to get footage. Just like the kid who got escorted out, I couldn't take my fifty in. So, I get up on the gate and get some shots of the endo practice. Then a security guy tells me I cant stand on the fence or in front of the bleachers and that I have to stand behind the SIDEWALK. As you can imagine, standing behind a pathway constructed for peope to walk on, isn't the best spot for a man with a camera. More than 100 peope walked in front of me in a 2 minute period. Not to mention, I was filming a rider 500 feet away, through a fence, at this point.

Then, I move to where I can actually videotape, and some jackass wining about how he paid too, is telling me to get out of his way. I then move down the way, in between the bleachers, and a douchebag sitting in a ******* kawasaki mule, says, "I've been here for two hours man, could you move?" I pretty much turned around and gave him a peice of my mind. (sidenote: I couldn't have a fifty up there, but a four seater kawasaki mule is OK....wtf?????) Finally, some cool people in the bleachers said I could sit there and video my teammate for his 4 minutes of fame.

Bottom line is Stuntwarz doesn't give a **** about any others involved. They are worried about making money, and that's it. I know the object of business is to make money, but when THEY GET ON THE MIC AT THE END OF THE DAY AND SAY THEY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING AND THIS IS ALL FOR THE RIDERS AND THE PROMOTION OF THE SPORT, that is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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yea that whole media pass was bull ****. damn
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Someone deleted my reply already... hmm..
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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i applied last year well in advance when they finally replied to me they told me only tv stations and major magazines were the only people to get them. i dont know if they changed the rules this year or not because i didnt even bother trying.
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Someone deleted my reply already... hmm..
damn already that was quick
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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what bullshit man...
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Now im happy i decided to stay home this weekend!
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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i'm not interested in attending any of these events. too many people complain about **** and it's enough to make me think i'll run into some kind of problem, even though i tend to abide by the rules.
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that sucks!!!! if he's your team mate you should have the right to get that footage.
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Originally Posted by PUNKON1WHEEL
Someone deleted my reply already... hmm..
I think thay might have actually been my fault, sorry about that. I started a new post with a different name that would fit on the main post screen. The new name is gettin more attention and hopefully people would realize what bullshit it is.

Sorry about that, again, your feedback is much appreciated.

This is what he said previously, "stunt wars is policed way too hard. Stuntfest and XDl is a much better show for the riders and anyone involved.. Im with ya bud."
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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that sucks!!!! if he's your team mate you should have the right to get that footage.
That's what I'm sayin. It seems like they want all of the video rights for themselves so they can sell the dvd and make money. They don't want anyone else to videotape and make money from it.
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Re: stuntwarz DISGRACE

Originally Posted by CIX J.J.
That's what I'm sayin. It seems like they want all of the video rights for themselves so they can sell the dvd and make money. They don't want anyone else to videotape and make money from it.

SQUID MAFIA showed them with our 7 minute run.
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CIX J.J.
So, another stuntwarz has passed and more people are pissed off. There are various reasons for this anger, and here is mine. I know this will sound like a rant, and some of you dbags will say i'm wining and yada yada, but I don't really care.

The seed of my hatred began when my when my teammate, Sick Trick Rick, made it to the finals of the endo comp. Naturally, I was ecstatic for him, but when I tried to get some video footage and pics, for our future video, I was a little less enthusiastic.

I was wanting to go down into the pits so I could get the best footage possible. I was told that wouldn't happen and then I went around asking people like guru and mikey Nicely if there was any way I could get down there. Of course they said, good luck, but I doubt it. I was informed that I had to apply for a media pass MORE THAN 3 MONTHS in advance. I don't know if they charge for it, but like everything else involved in stuntwarz, I'm sure preference would have been given to the people that can financially benefit stuntwarz the most.....so **** the little guy, being me!!

Because I couldn't go down in the pits, I tried to ride the fifty up to the grandstands to get footage. Just like the kid who got escorted out, I couldn't take my fifty in. So, I get up on the gate and get some shots of the endo practice. Then a security guy tells me I cant stand on the fence or in front of the bleachers and that I have to stand behind the SIDEWALK. As you can imagine, standing behind a pathway constructed for peope to walk on, isn't the best spot for a man with a camera. More than 100 peope walked in front of me in a 2 minute period. Not to mention, I was filming a rider 500 feet away, through a fence, at this point.

Then, I move to where I can actually videotape, and some jackass wining about how he paid too, is telling me to get out of his way. I then move down the way, in between the bleachers, and a douchebag sitting in a ******* kawasaki mule, says, "I've been here for two hours man, could you move?" I pretty much turned around and gave him a peice of my mind. (sidenote: I couldn't have a fifty up there, but a four seater kawasaki mule is OK....wtf?????) Finally, some cool people in the bleachers said I could sit there and video my teammate for his 4 minutes of fame.

Bottom line is Stuntwarz doesn't give a **** about any others involved. They are worried about making money, and that's it. I know the object of business is to make money, but when THEY GET ON THE MIC AT THE END OF THE DAY AND SAY THEY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING AND THIS IS ALL FOR THE RIDERS AND THE PROMOTION OF THE SPORT, that is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!
J.J. it is bullshit. Adam who was running the **** said the riders could have 1 and only 1 person on infield to do pics n video. so i don't see why he wouldn't let you. think he just babbles over the mic and thinks noone hears him.

but either way i didn't go sunday. went to the spot and after SW people showed up and killed it till 1am.
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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I feel your pain, but it could be much worse. Yeah the spot they gave riders to video from sucks *** and from that spot, the footage is 99% useless. We are lucky they allow us to film anything. Stuntwars is one of the biggest stunt events in the world. Other big organizations dont allow video taping at all. Have you ever been to a moto gp, ama, supercross, arenacross race, monster jam, xgames, etc show? They own all filming rights and dont allow you to record anything unless you have proper credentials!
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Re: stuntwarz DISGRACE

Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN
I feel your pain, but it could be much worse. Yeah the spot they gave riders to video from sucks *** and from that spot, the footage is 99% useless. We are lucky they allow us to film anything. Stuntwars is one of the biggest stunt events in the world. Other big organizations dont allow video taping at all. Have you ever been to a moto gp, ama, supercross, arenacross race, monster jam, xgames, etc show? They own all filming rights and dont allow you to record anything unless you have proper credentials!

+1 these are things you should expect from a growing corporate stunt event.
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Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN
I feel your pain, but it could be much worse. Yeah the spot they gave riders to video from sucks *** and from that spot, the footage is 99% useless. We are lucky they allow us to film anything. Stuntwars is one of the biggest stunt events in the world. Other big organizations dont allow video taping at all. Have you ever been to a moto gp, ama, supercross, arenacross race, monster jam, xgames, etc show? They own all filming rights and dont allow you to record anything unless you have proper credentials!
hey dan its nice to see a few pros backing up on this. ooh sorry bout the tire thing. sucks maybe they will check the track better but we know its

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+1 these are things you should expect from a growing corporate stunt event.
how you feeling man? ooh sunday was awesome. at the spot from 12pm-1am
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Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN
I feel your pain, but it could be much worse. Yeah the spot they gave riders to video from sucks *** and from that spot, the footage is 99% useless. We are lucky they allow us to film anything. Stuntwars is one of the biggest stunt events in the world. Other big organizations dont allow video taping at all. Have you ever been to a moto gp, ama, supercross, arenacross race, monster jam, xgames, etc show? They own all filming rights and dont allow you to record anything unless you have proper credentials!
this is why i luv ya bud, always lookin at it from the grass is greener on our side point of view
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Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN
I feel your pain, but it could be much worse. Yeah the spot they gave riders to video from sucks *** and from that spot, the footage is 99% useless. We are lucky they allow us to film anything. Stuntwars is one of the biggest stunt events in the world. Other big organizations dont allow video taping at all. Have you ever been to a moto gp, ama, supercross, arenacross race, monster jam, xgames, etc show? They own all filming rights and dont allow you to record anything unless you have proper credentials!
sucks but its true
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Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN
I feel your pain, but it could be much worse. Yeah the spot they gave riders to video from sucks *** and from that spot, the footage is 99% useless. We are lucky they allow us to film anything. Stuntwars is one of the biggest stunt events in the world. Other big organizations dont allow video taping at all. Have you ever been to a moto gp, ama, supercross, arenacross race, monster jam, xgames, etc show? They own all filming rights and dont allow you to record anything unless you have proper credentials!
+1 and filming by the bill boards you could put your lense right through the fence with no security guard busting your ***** , not the best spot for shooting individual freestyle but it would be perfect for the stoppie comp
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yea that sucks a lot i went o xdl and they were cool with me filming and walking pretty much where ever i wanted to go



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