Alrighty peeps im settin my 00 ZX6R up for stuntin this winter and i wanna get all my **** done before the next season starts. I wanna be able to do slow street wheelies none of that squidly 100mph pow wows. I know its carbed n its an older bike n all but its all i got. Stock gearing on it is 15-40 i believe. But ya cant really slow any wheelies down with it. So i was thinking going -1 up front and +5 in the rear. ive been in the stunt scene for a lil bit but this is my 1st bike that im gonna stunt. My cuz has a 636 that -1 +10 and he screams in all his gears n i dont want that cuz i dont think im gonna progress far enough to make it to the lot in one season, so its gonna be a street stunter. What do you think would be the best gearing to go slow on the streets and not be screamin in the rpms all day long? n what sprocket company do you suggest i go with. im thinkin Vortex.

 

a sprocket wont make you do "slow" wheelies getting the bike back to BALANCE POINT will!!! when will people ever learn this....

 

-5 + 79

 

i learned idle on a +2 rear in like a month

 

no ****


i learned on that same bike with a 55 tooth. it wasnt that bad considering it was a slow heavy pos. id do a 50-53 on it for 3nd gear highway clutch ups. you REALLY have to rape that bike to clutch up 2nd with stock. a little more gear helps substantially.

you can slow any wheelie down. u dont need big gears.

 

No **** dumbass but it sure helps, you dont need a hand brake to cobmos, but it sure helps. You dont need a cage or 12 bar either, but the first time you drop it. it sure helps, you dont need an f4I or 636 to stunt but its sure as **** easier then stunting a ninja 250. catch my drift? Think about it before you drop another dumb *** "when will you ppl ever learn this". As for your question bro. anywhere from 10-17+ will be perfect. depends on how hard your bike pulls on idle.

 

you just plain wrong. you dont need gears to slow wheelies down. period.

 

hahaha i catch your drift there kid but you dont need gearing to go slow you just need to not be a squid like you and think you know everything about stunting. if you can learn how to do idle wheelies with stock gearing then your gonna be a lot better off when you get gearing. oh and havent you seen people stuntin 250's lately? there pretty easy to stunt! so before you go drop another dumb *** 'you dont need this you dont need that" go and there and learn to circle or something. then talk some more ****

 

you guys are all gonna talk **** about jasons post but go to a lot and look at the sprockets...or ask how they learned. most ppl learn slow / idle on bigger sprockets and you all know it...yes stock is possible. but most ppl gear bikes to learn or just in general.

kyd just ask your friends. you know jer and timmy and the rest of your friends know the answer to this question without all the SL hate. go up 8 and you should be fine on the streets .

 

I wanna put an after market sprocket but dont wanna slow down my bike but also want it to help out on the wheelies....any info? or how many teeth should i drop?

 

Gearing isn't necassary but it does help no doubt about that, to much will hurt as well. Don't listen to peoples retardeness on here most of these guys started out doing O's and combos the first day and forget that just asking a ? doesn't make you a squid but a learner. +8 or +10 is probally good and COVER the brake!!!!!

 

how does bigger gearing help a beginner? smaller gearing is smoother, more predictable, and tamer than a geared bike. theres no other way to go about it. some people may have got on a geared bike and were fine and they are an exception, i was one of them. im saying for the majority of people..this will hold true.

the only way it can help is slowing the bike down with the more engine brake bigger gearing provides.

for tech stuff in the lot it allows you to go slower without stalling out. people who rock the **** out of smaller gearing are more than likely gonna be a little smoother on brake because the bike is easier to stall on slower technical stuff.

soo...

if u bring it past bp with no gears you just use more rear brake. thats how you slow it down. youll just be at a lower rpm...so as a result you have less engine brake.


its really quite elementary.

anybody who's says you can only do lot stunts and super tech **** with big gearing is wrong. my homie jumps from stall to HC and clutches around the lot and has death spins.... on stock gearing... i was rocking nth fb Os and working no handers when my f4i was stolen...with +4. id lie to see a pro stunter on a low geared bike. oh wait... i believe shin doesnt run much gearing at all if i remember correctly from seeing pics from XDL. pretty sure hes a MURDERER.

the bike i actually learned the basics of a wheelie, i.e. bring it past bp, using idle, slowing it down with brake, learning how to use the time eb gives you behind bp, was a 2000 zx6r... same bike this kid has. it had a 55tooth.


so having first hand experience rocking a geared bike, and a stock geared bike (after i was better), not to mention first hand experience of the exact bike hes riding ill say it again.

a little gearing would be nice on that bike. 8 tops. probably just get by with a -2 front ans save about $130.

thanks and bye

 

yeah this bike you need to be at about 7k in 2nd and just dump the clutch and hit the throttle and it'll come up quick. i know you dont need gears to do slow wheelies at all but it helps out. i know the basics of bringin it back past bp to bog the motor and use the brake to steady it. its just gettin myself to do and i know that gearing helps that out. I aint no pro and im not gods gift to the learning curve but i think ima quick learner at this ****.

vetter my bikes chain is streched and the gears are whooped. bikes got 29,000 miles on it but the motor only has maybe 10k cuz it was replaced after the guy i got it from blew it up.

r-benji i know that i can ask jer n tim but theres a lot more people on here that know just as much so i thought id get a few other opinions.

 

those bikes are actually pretty stout as far as the frame goes. i threw mine alot with a homemade cage never hurt it really. went through a subframe gorilla scraping tho so watch out for that, maybe brace it up, probably just being a having carbs just sucks tho man. everytime you drop it it will kinda flood out so keep a set of plugs around. other than that they are alright and great to learn on, lotsa cheap parts out there. carbs are by nature a little smoother

u shoudl try to put a nice front end on it.

 

do you know of a front end that will bolt up to it without any fabrication? also what size extended brake lines should i use for my dirtbars that i got. so whatcha think on the gearing +8 and the -2 up front or just +8

 

no i dont know on the front end man. i think a 8 would be good. you could always get a -1 and -2 later for like $30 if you wanted more.

 

[quote=Vetter;3637684]how does bigger gearing help a beginner? smaller gearing is smoother, more predictable, and tamer than a geared bike.

+1 i totally agree

 

im not to worried about having a nice front end on it. im not a big stoppie fan. i mean im sure i'll be trying them but to get serious and try to roll hundreds of feet i dont see in my future. im more of a rear wheel kinda guy. and to the begginer side of me...do ya think riding a fiddy or quad will have any cross-over onto the big bike? cuz i can absolutely kill it on a fiddy and quad. smaller the machine the better i am, but thats probly ive only tried to wheelie the big bike a handfull of times. i tried a lot bike for a whole 10 minutes one day and was able to to wheelie it no prob but would run outta gear before it would get to Bp. But was able to get a 954 wheelie machine to bog right out to about 25-30 mph lol...yeah im a ink shootin :

 

Bigger sprockets make it harder to learn idle. You almost have to be perfect on your throttle control. That is one of the reasons that I have so much problem with my bike. Damn thing is too twitchy.

 

IMO gearing doesn't help you go slower

it makes the bike more twitchy..

If you can't already ride idle wheelies, gearing IMO will make idle harder to get..



And no, stunting a 250 is WAY easier then stunting a 636 or f4i.. Wtf are you smoking? a 250 is a ******* toy, it stunts like a dirt bike


So before you go calling someone a dumb *** don't make dumb *** comments yourself!