Stunt riding will never go anywhere.
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hahah nice post! and you never know it may be in x games someday, i could care less cuz i wont be there but oh well! the only problem with the sport gettin bigger is the fact that more ppl will get into it and we will get a worse rep. cuz when ppl learn they start on the street and to many squids crash into cars and ****! so i wouldnt mind it staying underground a but like it is....but at the same time who doesnt love goin to shows and competitions and x games would be one of the biggest if it came down to that
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i was in 4 videos i think. i can not help what the people that film put in their videos. But there was a group in o-town back in the day that rode pretty much every night. i did not put a lot in to my riding because i have always just rode for fun. i can care less if this goes anywhere or not but most of the people that i rode with were all very good riders and all went on to search for a career in something else that will give them a good life down the road instead of being like a circus clown and traveling getting no where in life. i know people that have given up relationships and choose not to be with there own kids to try and make it stunting. to me that is just stupidity that they will regret later in life when they have nothing more than a stuntbike and a dream. and thats the way i see it. take it how you want but i would not own a house, boat, 3 vehicles and bike without putting in real work in this world. so if you are happy in a apt or renting something with 6 other people and will never have anything of your own or to retire on. keep on chasing 

I myself have traveled to over 14 different countries, been places and experienced more then most men do in their lifetime by the age of 21.. And for me a life of challenge, unpredictablilty, and being a part of something and or creation/pioneering of a sport that is constantly changing and evolving is of more intrest to me then the predictable life, doing what everybody else does, and making a bunch of $$..
Everybody doesn't live life for $$$ and luxuries.. Live your life the way you want, but don't come on here tell people their stupid cuz their not living their life the easy way, risk free, and for $$.
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Everybody lives their life differently for thier own personal reasons.. I myself could easily push for a good paying carrier with my resume, make a bunch of money, get married, have a more luxurious home, cars, cabin, boat, family etc.. The reason I only choose a decent job, and spend the rest of my time stunt riding is cuz I believe the life of a good paying carrier, nice house family etc is BORING and too PREDICTABLE.. - You work, have the stress or raising kids through the young and teen years, then move away and live their own life, you go on nice vacations here and there you retire sit on your *** and eventually die.. Though I respect that and don't tell people they're stupid for living a life that I myself consider lame and boring.
I myself have traveled to over 14 different countries, been places and experienced more then most men do in their lifetime by the age of 21.. And for me a life of challenge, unpredictablilty, and being a part of something and or creation/pioneering of a sport that is constantly changing and evolving is of more intrest to me then the predictable life, doing what everybody else does, and making a bunch of $$..
Everybody doesn't live life for $$$ and luxuries.. Live your life the way you want, but don't come on here tell people their stupid cuz their not living their life the easy way, risk free, and for $$.
I myself have traveled to over 14 different countries, been places and experienced more then most men do in their lifetime by the age of 21.. And for me a life of challenge, unpredictablilty, and being a part of something and or creation/pioneering of a sport that is constantly changing and evolving is of more intrest to me then the predictable life, doing what everybody else does, and making a bunch of $$..
Everybody doesn't live life for $$$ and luxuries.. Live your life the way you want, but don't come on here tell people their stupid cuz their not living their life the easy way, risk free, and for $$.

Good post. I have given up alot to pursue riding, and what I have gotten in return is priceless. I have seen over 16 countries, some more than once, met and made friends with people from all corners of the earth, and have a ton of life experience that you couldn't pay to have. Next month, I will be returning to Cuba for the 3RD TIME, most people in the states never get to see that place unless you are in the military. I have 4 bikes, a nice truck, live in a nice house with my girl, and I don't stress to bad about $. I am far from making millions, but I do what I want, and I have a blast. All this from a sport that doesn't even exist. Regardless of where this ends up, I will be content with my efforts, and can't wait to see what comes of this in the future.
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Just thought id share this, all you who think and talk about stuntriding getting big? It never will so stop talking about it. X-games this, bullshit that. I love riding just as much as anyone on this site, maybe more, (when something is not broken on my body) but when you really think about it, stuntriding is just one big show-off deal.. Stuntriders including myself are nothing but show-offs, and im not saying thats a bad thing, its just what it is.. I hope riding never gets big, because i like how it is like this, underground.. I love people who do nothing but try become pro and still dont go anywhere.. Wanna be a pro stunter? Then you wanna be broke? What maybe some tv time, a couple tires some spare parts, and if your bill d, win almost every comp and maybe make a couple g's? It aint going anywhere , and it never will and i hope it stays that way. Wanna make money in the stunt world, find a loop hole and build something and market it.:YEAH i dont want to insult anyone saying this, its just how i feel and i think a few others but no one will say it, so i did... Hope i didnt offend anyone...

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you almost had a good point but you lost me at croud pleasing chaos.. Most of the spectators are other stunters that are in the comp or other stunters that come to watch and their girlfriends. because right after that crowd pleasing chaos run as you put it there is another one that will be somewhat the same crap with a different rider
IDK when the last comp big show or event you have been to, but if it hasn't been the latest and greatest of this year, your opinions are lacking the facts to back it up..
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Everybody lives their life differently for thier own personal reasons.. I myself could easily push for a good paying carrier with my resume, make a bunch of money, get married, have a more luxurious home, cars, cabin, boat, family etc.. The reason I only choose a decent job, and spend the rest of my time stunt riding is cuz I believe the life of a good paying carrier, nice house family etc is BORING and too PREDICTABLE.. - You work, have the stress or raising kids through the young and teen years, then move away and live their own life, you go on nice vacations here and there you retire sit on your *** and eventually die.. Though I respect that and don't tell people they're stupid for living a life that I myself consider lame and boring.
I myself have traveled to over 14 different countries, been places and experienced more then most men do in their lifetime by the age of 21.. And for me a life of challenge, unpredictablilty, and being a part of something and or creation/pioneering of a sport that is constantly changing and evolving is of more intrest to me then the predictable life, doing what everybody else does, and making a bunch of $$..
Everybody doesn't live life for $$$ and luxuries.. Live your life the way you want, but don't come on here tell people their stupid cuz their not living their life the easy way, risk free, and for $$.
I myself have traveled to over 14 different countries, been places and experienced more then most men do in their lifetime by the age of 21.. And for me a life of challenge, unpredictablilty, and being a part of something and or creation/pioneering of a sport that is constantly changing and evolving is of more intrest to me then the predictable life, doing what everybody else does, and making a bunch of $$..
Everybody doesn't live life for $$$ and luxuries.. Live your life the way you want, but don't come on here tell people their stupid cuz their not living their life the easy way, risk free, and for $$.

Example look at graham. he is a friend of mine and he is a welder that makes really good money. now that his hand is fucked for the rest of his life. he might not be able to do his job again or make decent money all for what
You all need a wake up call. you care to much what some want to be pro cares about you
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i never tried to tell anyone how to live there life. i myself have traveled my fair share. not stunting but surfing. but to say Everybody doesn't live life for $$$ and luxuries. Ha i hope more of you think wow i want to pursue a life of being broke and eventually living on the streets with fucked up arms and legs because that just opens up more opportunities for people to make a good living at a job you did not want because you thought someday you would be a rockstar .
Example look at graham. he is a friend of mine and he is a welder that makes really good money. now that his hand is fucked for the rest of his life. he might not be able to do his job again or make decent money all for what
You all need a wake up call. you care to much what some want to be pro cares about you
Example look at graham. he is a friend of mine and he is a welder that makes really good money. now that his hand is fucked for the rest of his life. he might not be able to do his job again or make decent money all for what
You all need a wake up call. you care to much what some want to be pro cares about you
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difference between you and me: i've never worked a day in my adult life at a JOB, but i still make a good living from legit means and i love my life...
to each their own
to each their own
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I Think It Will Reach X Games Soon,over Hear The Fmx Guys An The Stunterz Have Done Shows 2geva B4 An It Alwayz Been Good.
As Long As It Dont Sell Out Completly We B Ok!
As Long As It Dont Sell Out Completly We B Ok!
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well i have worked every day of my adult life, and now im living the american dream. i own my own business, and i have a great team of employees that keep it running for me so i can ride, or spend a week with my girl on vacation. and i am making money while doing all of this! i can guarantee you that your not making close to the money stunt riding, that i make! and just think.... i owe it all to getting my *** out of bed in the morning, and going to work all of my adult life!
Last edited by crazy636stunter; Aug 11, 2008 at 05:05 PM.
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i never tried to tell anyone how to live there life. i myself have traveled my fair share. not stunting but surfing. but to say Everybody doesn't live life for $$$ and luxuries. Ha i hope more of you think wow i want to pursue a life of being broke and eventually living on the streets with fucked up arms and legs because that just opens up more opportunities for people to make a good living at a job you did not want because you thought someday you would be a rockstar .
Example look at graham. he is a friend of mine and he is a welder that makes really good money. now that his hand is fucked for the rest of his life. he might not be able to do his job again or make decent money all for what
You all need a wake up call. you care to much what some want to be pro cares about you
Example look at graham. he is a friend of mine and he is a welder that makes really good money. now that his hand is fucked for the rest of his life. he might not be able to do his job again or make decent money all for what
You all need a wake up call. you care to much what some want to be pro cares about you
You don't have to be broke and risk living on the streets to persue being a competitive stuntrider.. Right now I've been running a small growing company 40hrs wk M-F for the past 2 years.. Doesn't pay what I should be getting for what I do but in the future it will turn into something good as it continue's to grow, and can get time off whenever to travel to every comp in the country if I was at that level in my riding and wanted to.. There are plenty of jobs out there like this, maybe just harder to find...
Not all of us continue to push this sport for $$ fame and rockstar status garbage..
Grahm: Stuntriding is dangerous, there is risk, if he didn't recognize that that's his fault.. **** happens..
I myself agreed to sacrafice my life for my country and it's freedom if I was called upon.. what for?? It's not even worth explaining cuz you are obviously the person who just doesn't get **** like this regardless of how much it's broken down Barney style for you... Just run along and go live your dream of excessive $$ security and a risk free life.. Nothing of what anybody else is doing or says in regards to the sport effects your persuit of a happy life the way you see it fit. So stop trying to talk people and the sport down and just do what you want, and let others do what they want.. :YEAH
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sucks when u think u know but u dont
Thats probably the dumbest argument I've heard...nobody else will say it but I will.
Not saying it will or won't go xgames but did u actually watch X this year? Weak! Stunting fits and I guarantee would be as entertaing if not more so than some other stuff they had going on
And if stunting is going nowhere y is there a greater and continuing interest from manufacturers and corporate sponsors?
U can keep ur riding underground but u aren't in the game like some of us and dont have any idea what's really happening right now
No offense but thats the truth
Thats probably the dumbest argument I've heard...nobody else will say it but I will.
Not saying it will or won't go xgames but did u actually watch X this year? Weak! Stunting fits and I guarantee would be as entertaing if not more so than some other stuff they had going on
And if stunting is going nowhere y is there a greater and continuing interest from manufacturers and corporate sponsors?
U can keep ur riding underground but u aren't in the game like some of us and dont have any idea what's really happening right now
No offense but thats the truth
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No disrespect at all, but the guy who started the thread has a really valid point. Unfortunately alot of people dont want to accept reality. Re: Stunt riding will never go anywhere.
He was ALREADY a teacher. Put teaching on hold to do stuntriding FULL TIME. The whole retirement thing was a joke. He's NOT retiring.
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Stunting has reached its peak, I would visit this post 10 years from now just to bring it up to say "TOLD YOU SO"
Its easy to think stuntriding is cool and the greatest thing to watch, when your a stunter, but thats it stunters are their biggest fans. Its not that cool,
I have noticed a few things with "SOME" stunters their all broke weed smokers with no future thought out for themself, except that riding is it. Yeah it was for a couple guys and even they are no Stewart or Valentino.
ANY ONE CAN STUNT! NOT ANY ONE CAN RIP FAST LAP TIMES LIKE THE RACERS ABOVE MENTIONED.
Its easy to think stuntriding is cool and the greatest thing to watch, when your a stunter, but thats it stunters are their biggest fans. Its not that cool,
I have noticed a few things with "SOME" stunters their all broke weed smokers with no future thought out for themself, except that riding is it. Yeah it was for a couple guys and even they are no Stewart or Valentino.
ANY ONE CAN STUNT! NOT ANY ONE CAN RIP FAST LAP TIMES LIKE THE RACERS ABOVE MENTIONED.
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well i have worked every day of my adult life, and now im living the american dream. i own my own business, and i have a great team of employees that keep it running for me so i can ride, or spend a week with my girl on vacation. and i am making money while doing all of this! i can guarantee you that your not making close to the money stunt riding, that i make! and just think.... i owe it all to getting my *** out of bed in the morning, and going to work all of my adult life!
I make about $84,000.00 a year and work everyday I also have a 401k, dental, accident, medaical and life insurance, which I don't think you get from pro stunting. I know that most people want to be pro because they don't think they have to work (they're wrong). The majority of stunters won't even come close to making a living off it and if you do, great, good for you. I also don't know why everyone is worried about the X-Games, seriously who gives a **** about the Shawn White, Danny Way, Travis Pastrana show. THE X-GAMES ******* SUCK!!!!! This sport will never make it if thats everyones goal. Do our own **** and let the rest fall into place thats how it'll make it, not trying to chase the mainstream. Skateing was around before the X-Games, so just give up on it and get our own thing.
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sounds like a lot of really bitter once parking lot pimps on this thread crying because a year ago or less they honestly thought they knew the super secret g14 way and it was it.. and when it wasnt now they are snivelling and crying on here because things didnt go they way they expected..
bottom line, i agree with the video of nicky hayden someone posted earlier... do it cause you love it..
to those who said it wont "go anywhere" too late.. it already has and unless you live under a rock or just too ignorant and stubborn to admit it.. stunting is already very mainstream. We got factory riders, big company support, sanctioned series multiple events, weekly TV shows, many professional exhibitionist booking shows all year round showing people what it is. we have SEVERAL magazines covering us EVERY ISSUE FOR OVER 4 YEARS. we got posters, and toys, hell there are many video games that include what we do. there are fans there are atheles, there are OGs, OOO-Gs and newbies too.. there are product companies surviving quite well i might add, off of just stunt specific products alone... just cause it isn't X-games doesn't mean that there arn't 10s of thousands of people who are aware of what we do out there.. millions..
sad truth is, just like working at McD's or doing brain surgery.. you wanna make money in the united states of america you gotta not be afraid to DO SOME WORK!!
so stop all your crying and do work..
sorry your stunt bling, did it for the hotties and to impress my hommies jewlery company didnt work out for your superstunna (makes a killer key chain though, i like mine - stolen from teach)
and im sorry that your XDL im gonna kick teach and kanes asses and am the best there ever was cause im an internet video parking lot stunt pimp dreams blew up in your face boogie..
but when life throws you garbage you can deal with it and get over it.. or get stuck under it and be a bitter old man (woman)
DO WORK SON! DO WORK!
-kane
bottom line, i agree with the video of nicky hayden someone posted earlier... do it cause you love it..
to those who said it wont "go anywhere" too late.. it already has and unless you live under a rock or just too ignorant and stubborn to admit it.. stunting is already very mainstream. We got factory riders, big company support, sanctioned series multiple events, weekly TV shows, many professional exhibitionist booking shows all year round showing people what it is. we have SEVERAL magazines covering us EVERY ISSUE FOR OVER 4 YEARS. we got posters, and toys, hell there are many video games that include what we do. there are fans there are atheles, there are OGs, OOO-Gs and newbies too.. there are product companies surviving quite well i might add, off of just stunt specific products alone... just cause it isn't X-games doesn't mean that there arn't 10s of thousands of people who are aware of what we do out there.. millions..
sad truth is, just like working at McD's or doing brain surgery.. you wanna make money in the united states of america you gotta not be afraid to DO SOME WORK!!
so stop all your crying and do work..
sorry your stunt bling, did it for the hotties and to impress my hommies jewlery company didnt work out for your superstunna (makes a killer key chain though, i like mine - stolen from teach)
and im sorry that your XDL im gonna kick teach and kanes asses and am the best there ever was cause im an internet video parking lot stunt pimp dreams blew up in your face boogie..
but when life throws you garbage you can deal with it and get over it.. or get stuck under it and be a bitter old man (woman)
DO WORK SON! DO WORK!
-kane
Last edited by Kaneone; Aug 11, 2008 at 07:40 PM.
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well that wasnt a very funny joke then. and was he a teacher when he was 17, cuz he said he never had a job as an adult. Bottom line is if teach couldnt use stunting to sustain him beyond 30 then the prospects for everyone else isnt that great.
PS: and kane, Shut the **** up. The only difference between u and Durren is that u can ride.
I.E: The only reason u made it is because you had the Durren concept way back then. If u didnt stand out by looking like a ****** u would have just been another stunter. I mean just look at ur avi.. all ur missin is the vodka & cig.
Yes i said it!
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