would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

just about to make the order for a 16x18. i can get a good deal on shipping to aus so im not going through hai cos they want $106 to ship it compared too $35 at moto-madness.com

but this place im goin through is tellin me its an extra $25 for the banjo bolt to suit the brembo where as hai is only $4.99.

so could i just use my bolt out of my existing master?


and is the folding lever worth the extra cash?

Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

when in doubt just wrench on it with as much force as humanly possible
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

First of all the reason they are telling you $25 for a banjo bolt is probably because they think you need one with a brake light/clutch switch built in, and those ones cost $25...Hai knows your going to use this as a HB and that you dont need a brake light or clutch switch, so their giving you a regular banjo bolt for $5...

And no you cannot use a banjo from your existing master....Pretty much all OEM masters use a M10x1.25(coarse thread) thread banjo bolt, but all the aftermarket Brembos use a M10x1.0 (fine thread). If you try to use a 1.25 bolt in the 1.0 threads of the Brembo like Danger_Dave suggests you will **** up your Brembo....
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

I bet you can find an M10x1.0 in an auto parts store down there for a couple bucks
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

Originally Posted by MikeM
I bet you can find an M10x1.0 in an auto parts store down there for a couple bucks
word. whatever banjo bolt you got layin around will work. or you can pick one up anywhere for 5 bucks or less.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

Originally Posted by MikeM
I bet you can find an M10x1.0 in an auto parts store down there for a couple bucks
WORD I didn't get one with the brembo so I went to the local Napa autoparts store and they had it in stock. there is cars that use that banjo driving all over the place.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

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word. whatever banjo bolt you got layin around will work. or you can pick one up anywhere for 5 bucks or less.
Actually no "whatever banjo bolt you got layin" wont work.......Do you not understand the differnce between a 1.25 thread pitch and a 1.0? The difference is one wont fit the other
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

Originally Posted by JohnnyP
Actually no "whatever banjo bolt you got layin" wont work.......Do you not understand the differnce between a 1.25 thread pitch and a 1.0? The difference is one wont fit the other
But Johnny, it was posted on the interweb... so it MUST be true!!!

so much MIS-information on the net!!!


Answer, you must use the correct banjo or you WILL ruin your Brembo! if it doesnt thread in EASILY, as in with your fingers, then its the wrong one!
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

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But Johnny, it was posted on the interweb... so it MUST be true!!!

so much MIS-information on the net!!!


Answer, you must use the correct banjo or you WILL ruin your Brembo! if it doesnt thread in EASILY, as in with your fingers, then its the wrong one!
Id just hate to hear that this guy tried to use any old banjo bolt he had lying around, because someone on here told him it would work...Cause a 1.25 will go in the 1.0 threads, but not without some force and ruining the 1.0 threads....Seen it before, people bring in a bike with a leaky banjo, and its all fucked becasue they used the wrong pitch...If their lucky I can just chase the threads out back to 1.0.....

Since hes asking if theres a difference I assume hes never had a Brembo or anything that has ever needed a 1.0 thread pitch banjo bolt, so chances are he will only have 1.25 banjo bolts lying around...And that will only **** up his threads if he tries to use it on the Brembo
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

that's been the case for me, never had anything myself that needed a 1.25 i've never seen a 1.25 and i've fucked with some brake systems
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

folding lever is kinda nice if you dump your bike it won't twist the pushrod

those levers are like $100 if you get the authentic Brembo ones. You can get knockoff replacement levers for like $30 though.

if you have the choice, get the stainless steel banjo bolt. it's more durable and i feel like it seals better than the aluminum type.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

Originally Posted by [T-Roy]
that's been the case for me, never had anything myself that needed a 1.25 i've never seen a 1.25 and i've fucked with some brake systems
Youve got it backwards, 1.25 is the most common thread size for banjo bolts and is used for pretty much every banjo bolt on OEM Jap bikes.....1.0 is not so common and not many bikes use that size, maybe some higher end bikes like Ducati but not very many Jap bikes.....

Ive probably got 50+ 1.25 bolts lying around my shop from working on bikes, installing braided lines and such...And I have maybe 1 or 2 spare 1.0's...

So you should be familiar with 1.25
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

ah i must have it backwards.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

Here I tried to take a pic of both, its a new cam so Im still learning how to use it so its not the best pic...You can still see that the threads are differnt...
The 1.25/1.0 is the measurement between the threads 1.0 means the points of the thread are 1mm apart, 1.25 means they are 1.25mm apart....Doenst seem like much but theres a big differnce

The bronze coloured bolt is a 1.0 (fine)
And the silver one is a 1.25 (coarse) Most common
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

thanks for all the info guys. il ask the shop im ordering from if they stock any regular banjo's. if not i guess il just get one over here somewhere..

is there anywhere online i can order the brembo replacment folding levers that arent genuine?
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Re: would a banjo bolt from an 04 r1 master fit a 16x18 brembo master?

Originally Posted by Dstunts
thanks for all the info guys. il ask the shop im ordering from if they stock any regular banjo's. if not i guess il just get one over here somewhere..

is there anywhere online i can order the brembo replacment folding levers that arent genuine?
You can order up a 250-5030 (for 16mm folding) from any Lockhart Phillips dealer that ships overseas

www.haibikeshop.com
www.surfsidemoto.com
www.sumofallparts.net
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