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Old 09-15-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

for $2.....I'll give it a shot and see how it works.
I sent ya a PM DSCamry, if you could, post a pic you got of the finished project, or us microsoft paint and color in some red lines or somin if you could to show what goes where. Just to clarify. I'm from Missouri, the "SHOW ME" state! hahaha

Hoping this will help, I love my F4i, but it does bog ad is a bit of a pig sometimes.
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

Originally Posted by *Tanus*
I dont think it is like that, but Im going to pull the cover on my spare motor to see.
i can understand not having faith in me, but you must have faith in omr, for he is wise in the way of stunting and stunt bikes
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

Originally Posted by eazenutz33
for $2.....I'll give it a shot and see how it works.
I sent ya a PM DSCamry, if you could, post a pic you got of the finished project, or us microsoft paint and color in some red lines or somin if you could to show what goes where. Just to clarify. I'm from Missouri, the "SHOW ME" state! hahaha

Hoping this will help, I love my F4i, but it does bog ad is a bit of a pig sometimes.
haha for the bit of amusment im gonna post the drawing i told you about. but the pic that omr posted is the pic i was talking about aswell

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im old i know stuff......lol
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this should clear some **** up

a little blurry on the exh port shots, but the arrows clearly show the port to the reed vavles

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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

for the slow people:

the reed valves are directed towards the exhast ports (one way)

the 3rd port off the valve cover is an open (2 way) vent that connects to the unfiltered side of the airbox.

By connecting all three of these with a "T" as described above, the crankcase vents directly to the exhaust via the reed valves!
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

Originally Posted by BigBalla
for the slow people:

the reed valves are directed towards the exhast ports (one way)

the 3rd port off the valve cover is an open (2 way) vent that connects to the unfiltered side of the airbox.

By connecting all three of these with a "T" as described above, the crankcase vents directly to the exhaust via the reed valves!
question, unrelated to the mod but related to the mechanics of the bike: The 3rd port then must feed into the motor if it's going into the airbox to be filtered. Why recycle the air from the valve cover port into the motor?
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

Originally Posted by Trachito
Why recycle the air from the valve cover port into the motor?
Edit to my last post: the 3rd port, crankcase breather, runs open from the valve cover to the FILTERED side of the air box.

*There is no port that is ran before the filter.

To answer your question. In stock form, crankcase gasses are pulled into the airbox from the valve cover, through intake vacuum, and burnt in combustion to control emissions.

***VERY IMPORTANT***
Anyone doing the above modification will be feeding oil directly into the exhaust ports after a tipover!

blocking off the pair reed valve ports will increase performance, but the breather hose should be left to atmosphere with some sort of filter. PCV valves could be used too.

hopefully this makes sense heres a couple pics of the airbox vents with breather hose.
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

To all who gave Info in this Thread


THANK YOU SINCERELY

I'm a rookie...who just happens to be learning idle at this moment in time...( and I'm a slow learner...so it's taking a few weeks.... I dont pick **** up quick, like some of you "Naturals"

Anyways....I did this Mod today...and went out and practiced.... and it was an awesome Improvement !!!!!(for $1.99 t -fitting)

I feel like I progressed about 2 weeks worth (just from the Mod !! )

Thanks Again....you guys ROCK !!!

I'll be doing my other f4i tomorrow :YEAH
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

Originally Posted by dscamry
i can understand not having faith in me, but you must have faith in omr, for he is wise in the way of stunting and stunt bikes
I'll never doubt him again
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

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I'll never doubt him again
never ????

umm if you send me half your paycheck for life you will live longer
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Holy **** why didnt I do this 2 years ago Just changed my 04 636 and my buddies 06 636 setup to this and I had to lower my idle and got sit down no handers day 1......I was struggleing with them for a while.....**** the bikes pull so much stronger without the oil mist going into the air box......

Did it to my bone stock street bike and Im lovin the stock geared 636
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umm if you send me half your paycheck for life you will live longer
the checks in the mail, half of 0 is 0 right lol
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

ok soooo how is this done.....no im not trying to piece together info from 6 pages....to much back and forth do this do that,,no it like this..etc..

ok ill start
1.tank tank off.
2.take off air box.
3.???? please continue
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

Originally Posted by BigBalla
To answer your question. In stock form, crankcase gasses are pulled into the airbox from the valve cover, through intake vacuum, and burnt in combustion to control emissions.
So the mod is illegal??... like i care either way.

Originally Posted by BigBalla
blocking off the pair reed valve ports will increase performance, but the breather hose should be left to atmosphere with some sort of filter. PCV valves could be used too.
ok, so doing the mod this way (which, i'm assuming involves just connecting the two other hoses with a simple fitting) will prevent a vacuum from forming inside the crank case, unlike the T method. however, a tipover will cause oil to come back up the breather hose, through the filter, and onto the bike/ground, no?

sorry that i keep bringing this **** up but i'm enjoying learning all this.
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

Originally Posted by havok
ok soooo how is this done.....no im not trying to piece together info from 6 pages....to much back and forth do this do that,,no it like this..etc..

ok ill start
1.tank tank off.
2.take off air box.
3.???? please continue
this is my understanding of the T method for the f4i after following this thread:

1 take off gas tank
2 remove airbox
3 remove hose that leads to bottom of airbox altogether
4 disconnect two hoses from the valve that the hose in #3 was connected to (but leave them connected to the crank case)
5 disconnect hose from the top of airbox (but leave it connected to the valve cover)
6 using a T, connect the hose in #5 to the two hoses in #4
7 thuroughly plug ports in airbox where the hoses used to go
8 put everything back together

i think i got it all covered here. anybody, lemme know if i missed something.
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what size t fitting do you need i'm to lazy to rip it apart....
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

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what size t fitting do you need i'm to lazy to rip it apart....
take it to a mechanic
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Re: f4i kleen air mod??????????

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take it to a mechanic
Thats usefull information....


Anyone know what size it is off the top of their head?

Gettin rdy to grab some cage nuts n bolts from the hardware store, wanna pick up a t-line while im there
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