i am just trying to put a price on a bike for sale in my area, it has no ownership and the frame is a blank no vins. the bike is a 2003 954, with a "claimed" 4800km only. it has race body work on it and he is sellign it as a track/stunt bike. what would u pay for a bike in good condition liek this?

 

$99.95

 

No title w/ no papers $1500 tops!

 

when the cops come to the spot will they hastle me for having no proof of ownership and take my bike away?

 

yep....

 

and you cant get it out of impound with no proof of ownership

 

hmm well that sucks. so basicly stay away from this bike even if it is a good deal

 

stay away from everything without a title

 

no title is ok, if you can prove that its a repo bike or something of the nature, but a straight no vin having frame, run like hell, that bike will burn you

 

unless you can get it dirt cheap and part it out

 

yeah $1,500...max
then u take it home n strip it
craigslist it
ebay it
dumb the frame
maybe dump the motor if u dont need it
sell my the dam subframe though...oh, and the rims!

 

F that, stamp the frame! It can & has been done, and with having someone here that can do it, I'd be lucky if I could take advantage of a good deal on something like that.

 

Yea No title and no vins, first cop that sees that thing will take that thing away! Look for a salvage title frame and swap them out if you have a bad *** deal on the bike, but it is risky!

 

With that idea you may as well just jack bikes, stamped frames, no vins. blah blah . It's all hot ****, the only way you cant get fucked for buying something like that bike is to pay, and have proof that you did, fair market price. If you buy a "nice" bike for 700 bucks and get picked up with it you're going to get possession if it comes up hot, it probably will stick. Jail time or a felony is not worth it. Be smart people, and if you're not going to be smart NEVER post up ANYTHING on the internet.

THIS WHOLE POST SHOULD BE DELETED. Sorry to be an old man but hey, **** it, I'll play that part.

 

if its stolen property, you can get it taken away from you no matter what you paid for it AND no matter if you knew or didn't know it was stolen. All you're doing by buying that **** is supporting a crook, which makes YOU a crook in my eyes.

 

Buying hot bikes or hot parts helps support the theives. No VIN and no papers, I wouldn't give $.25 for it. As long as it has a VIN on it and you can run the numbers to make sure it's NOT hot, then it's worth something.

 

what do you mean no ownership??? if you get a bill of sale and the frame is blank....not shaved down....thats one thing...if it's shaved stay away...no matter what paperwork you have the cops will take it and if your lucky all you lose is the $$ you paid for it...

 

Yeah I wasn't suggesting supporting the jacking of bikes or buying stolen property in any way, that is whack & bad baaaad karma! It hurts like hell to have something you love taken away and would never want to contribute to that. I was (maybe naiively) assuming that this bike had no VIN because it was previously a track-only race bike, not something hot. So hey, if you got a title from an unclaimed wrecked bike and can do a VIN stamp, why not? It was just hypothetical chatter on my part anyways.

 

run the vin off the motor see what happens. the seller should have a receipt for the frame assuming he bought the frame from a dealer.

 

The # on the motor wont match the frame.