Well, after much deliberation, i thought i would post this topic to you guys. It seems that in this day and age the europeans are really pioneering in the stunt world. I mean, it was way back when they started pioneering circle wheelies on sportbikes. Now i hear about that they have a rider whos riding switchback wheelies at 140mph or something (not my thing really but still off the hook ) It also seems that they are hardcore into streetfighters and a different choice of stunt machines (bandits etc.).

As for ther american stunting scene, i see it as still as skillful as the europeans but in a different light. I see the american stunt scene as having more of an attitude persay. While the europeans are true show man (in more of an evil knieval [sp.] sort of way with there matchign leathers and pretty bikes), I think americans really know how to draw a crowd. Like we have the attitude that we don't give a f**k, our **** is pimp with fur on it, camo, spikes on our lids, sometimes no lids, etc.

While we may be dope crowd pleasers, and our cockiness makes us that more off the hook, are we a step behind europeans in the grand scheme of things?

What do you guys think? I know this post is kinda long but i wanted to see how Europeans and Americans match up or don't

 

This should be a real good discussion. Im in the same boat as you, stunters over here have a certain persona to us. True, stunting in Europe seems to be more professional, rather than showing off. Either way, its awesome to see how this sport is taking off!

 

well i've watched alot of videos more american than european to the tune of like 14 american and 2 european and i have to say that europeans have a big step up on us. i mean they have all the tricks no one wants to do over hear. LIKE(2 up over the bar wheelies,but the man over the bars is facing the guy on the bike),(3 up wheelies with one guy sitting on shoulders). 12 O'clock over the bar scrapes..ECT. i guess i just feel like were a few years behind in tricks,and americans have alot of tricks,but the europeans REALLY HAVE ALLLL the tricks,and at much higher speeds. i think CALI riders would be good european stunters cuz they like doing their tricks at high rates of speed . where as east coast stunters like things at a more slower controlled pace.

well i guess i figure it at
EUROPEANS = faster,more wow affect,and more tech tricks at high speeds.

AMERICANS = good skills, lots of technicality, and the i dont give a **** factor.

outcome = were only a coulpe of years behind the europeans i think because once everyone gets sick of slow **** theres only fast **** left. so i guess the west coast will have a one up on us eastcoasters.


just my .02
lata,mike"zannmann"

 

Agree + I think European's style seems to be more like Hollywood stuntman. I like the attitude we have over here...lol!! I give mad props and thanks to everyone and anyone that has 1st performed the stunts we all love to do!

 

This is very true about the highspeed tricks.

Like i said though, i think the attitude that we have here is so much different than that of european stunters. I think that we add the flare to stunting but i can't be sure. I would like to see how europeans IN EUROPE would react to someone like Kyle, or the guys from PBR, or maybe even someone like darius. It seems over there that they actually fit the stereotype of being more refined. I mean look at the UK, if i am correct you can't legally operate a bike over 500cc there if your under 21. **** is so regulated and refined over there.

I must say though, people have told me this. the stunting population is much more isolated over there. Like you got a few groups that are off the hook, but the majority of the population can't or won't stunt. My ex-girlfriend after going to italy said she met some guys over there that were trying to stunt but just sucked ***, like they couldn't stoppie or wheelie worth the damn. I think americans like what was said before, have this ***** out, even though i work 9-5 in the factory i can still keep **** ill out on the nearest freeway or abandoned lot.

 

i think the europeans are actually poor small town guys that ride to make a living. they propably have nothing else to do, and ride allday everyday. and then winter comes and they hibernate. spring rolls around and they are right back at it.

just a guess. but look at the vids. old shitty bikes, sic *** tricks and they ALL have em.

 

Both have their good points, but i perfer the american stunt'n. We just have an attitude like we dont give a ****. We dont care if our bike is pretty, or if all the plastics match. We dont care if our gear dont match the bike. It also seems that we have an all out attitude, we just try stuff even if it means we are gonna eat asphalt. The europeans deff have some tricks on lock, but the Americans can really get the crowd involved and make stunting look "alive" and many riders have their own style. just my

 

Europeans had a huge head start. It doesn't matter Americans always take sports to the extreme, we just need more time.
Euro **** aint cool, just because Carmichael can do a no handed whellie with a oriental leperchans crotch in his face... give me a break.

 

I think you´re pretty much dead on so far.
And as Rodg C.C and jay_9se7en3 said. It IS more restricted as far as rules and such goes. (Although of course alot of people don´t give **** about those rules)
I´ll give you an example of how the rules work here in Sweden:

You can get a license for a "light motorcycle" when you´re 16.
It can´t have more than 125cc and a maximum if 15hp. (Which means most bikes need to be restricted).

Then when you´re 18 you can get the "medium"-license.
This means you can ride ANY bike, BUT it can´t have more than 35hp. (Again, restricting is necessary for most bikes).

Then, when you turn 21, or had your "medium" license for 2 years you can ride whatever you want, with NO restrictions.


And a sidenote is that the first 2 years of your first license is kind of "probationary", meaning that if the cops stop you for ANY kind of traffic offense. (even if it´s just a 2mph speeding) you loose your license and have to re-do all the driving-exams etc. etc.
So it´s tough on the stunting community over here...
:twelve

 

Yeah see thats not cool. since i am only 19 (almost 20) i prolly would have lost my license like 5 times already

 

lol ... havent seen that much prejudices for a while ...
guess you've seen that stuntcontest somewhere in the eastern part of europe from www.einefetza.com

i personally wouldnt say that europeans are in any way better at stunting than americans. there may be some guys that are _really_ good at it, but thats not the majority. they do it for a living, unlike most of you.
you will hardly see any stunters or groups over here, its simply not that popular. the typical german biker is round 50 , has enough money and drives some big enduro or other **** like that.
with 16 , you can get a license for those 125ccm bikes, but they have to be restricted to 15 ps. with 18 , you have to get a new license in roder to get a bigbike , but this has to be restricted to 34 PS. 2 years later , youre allowed to drive whatever you want ...

****ing laws over here. leads to the situation that nobody wants a bike, everybody goes for a car with 18, the car tuning scene is _much_ bigger than the bike scene.

for sure , there are people like me that dont give a **** and ride their bikes with full power, but thats kinda dangerous. one friend of mine just got caught by the police, lost his license for several months , has to pay ~ 600 € and so on ...
im 18, ive eben riding a 125cc bike for two years (with 34 PS and ~ 160 km/h , not with the allowed 15 ps and restricted to 80 km/h), now riding a 400 ccm kawa with 64 PS instead of the allowed 34 . silly license system ...

and there is another problem : as the european states unite , all countries are going to get the same license system. that means that countries like france, spain or italy in which bikes are more popular will get the same restrictions ...

no good future at all for us. we'll see what this summer will bring, maybe we'll find enough people to train together, trying to get that feeling that all you have over there ... not stunting as a job , but stunting as a way of life. id really like that.


last sentence : dont think of european stunters as competitors , there aint enough, and those that _really_ have skills dont appear on the streets.

 

ha....i just turned 21 and have lost my lisence 8 times!! i never have my ****......just gets taken away in a month after i get it back

 

Honestly, i think some of the guys on the other side of the pond are way better then we give them credit for, then we make up bullshit reasons to cut them down like "His bikes got dirtbike bars on it"