Last night FHL found it neccessary to start a conversation with me that basically contained a bunch of juevenile name calling and me trying to figure out what his major malfunction was. Yet again, his excuse for not being able to wheely his little 200 dirt bike was high altitude. After having a few convo's with him before, and seeing his posts on SL, I simply had enough and decided to tell him to stfu he can overcome the problem. While I'm not sure if this will work, I can't see why not... But I will ask the much more informed people on here to let me know.

FHL claimed to have a PCIII. and says that due to altitude, there isn't enough air and his bike loses 25% of it's power. Well he says that every machine loses at least 25% of it's power. I told him to have the pcIII mapped. Change the mixture to compensate for the less dense air charge by lowering the amount of fuel intake and getting better ignition. Thus giving him the power he would have at sea level. Since he says he can do anything at sea level, just not so high up in those big 'ol mountains of his. am I completely off base with this? He says the only way is a turbo... "forced induction is the only way to get enough air". I have had two cars that were highly modified, and changing the air/fuel ratio's was a way to make some serious power. So theoretically, shouldn't he be able to tune his bike to make up for any loss in power? Or am I way off base?

This isn't really a "ha I made FHL look dumb" thread cause he does that for himself. I am genuinely curious if this would work. Just so that I can sleep a little easier knowing I'm not a complete ****job and have forgotten everything I know about cars since I started playing with bikes. So let me know... yes or no? Thanks

 

correct me if I'm wrong, but arent almost all (if not all) dirtbikes carbuerated??forced induction wont change **** without more fuel...you have that right about the fuel....but just puttin a turbo on wont help much...yes he will have more air, but it will be hotter less dense air than what he is already sucking in. ie...LESS POWER. Right now i cant remember that stupid air/fuel/altitude formula to save my life right now

 

dude,what does it matter,hes learning and when your having problems you find something to blame it on,but i wouldnt know about the air thing,im basicly at sea level.i think FHl is a cool cat,if u dont like him then great,no need to post it...everyones see it all the hate on here is seriously getting old.

 

Sorry this isnt the answer to your question - but when i saw this I just wanted you to know - its not just you - he did the same thing to me last night - i posted up some pics w/ redline & out of nowhere came his blah blah b/s comments - he threw in some of these - - so i gave him mine - then he started callin me names - for a second i thought he was gonna hurt my feelings !! heh heh.... .... - maybe after he reads all the posts from people that dont like all the attitude he throws around he'll work on bein nice... prob not - but hey its worth a shot right !?! later - ashley : )

 

Doodle... have you ever had a conversation with FHL? Have you been here to read half the posts the kid has made? I'm not bashing the kid... he brings it on himself. I said "this isn't a "Ha I made fhl look dumb" thread" I was simply curious if the information I was giving the kid was correct. I didn't want to pump him full of my information (even though he refused to hear any of it and continued to ramble) and have it be wrong. So I asked if my idea would work. Just gave a little story where the question came from. Thats all. I'm not here to feed the drama machine that SL is. I want to know if you can do that.

Oh, and BTW... the kid is still a toolbag. Read his posts. Or don't and hate me and call me a hater. It's your perogative.. do as you choose. Me personally, I tried to be nice to the kid... when he turns **** around and tries to throw it back in my face with a pile of **** behind it and all I'm trying to do is be civil and help him... then he can kiss my ***. There's a reason that there is a FHL bandwagon... because he's pissed off just about everyone on here.

But anyway... does anyone know if you can map the PCIII to help with the effects of altitude?

 

Tell him to pull the air filter and use womens nylons to cover the opening and I am sure he can get it up

 

raodstain......who makes his little 200 dirt bike?? and is it even Fuel Injected where it needs a PCIII.....PCIII has been thrown around so much that i think some forget what carbueration is....first, is his bike fuel injected or carbuerated....second, Does he know how to ride?

 

When I was talkin about the pcIII I was refering to his 954. I understand the 200 is carb'd. But if I can wheelie/scrape a 50.. I think he can do it on a 200... no matter what altitude. Basically he isn't that great of a rider... but instead of just admitting this and saying he needs to practice.. he blames everything on the altitude. So I was trying to find a way to get rid of that excuse.

Me... I suck. I know it. And don't claim to be good. Has FHL ever claimed to be good. Nope, not really.. but he'll talk **** on the people who are for days on end. And thats where he gets people pissed off. This is getting too much about FHL... I was more looking to see if it was possible to remap the bike to compensate for altitude. The stocking idea was good... but he'll have a reason why it won't work I'm sure. Thanks for the input... please continue

 

gotcha....i didnt know that you were talkin bout a 954, i thought you were talkin bout his 200 dirt bike....got it....yeah....

 

Roadstain I first want to say you are Just cuz you aren't a ****face. Anyway when it comes down to it, yes the altitude will affect the performance of a motor, but certainly not enough that you can't wheelie it. But you are right about adjusting the air/fuel mixture. Like you said toying with that in a car will affect the performance...motorcycles typically have much less complex motors than cars, thus playing with the air/fuel mixture will create more drastic changes. As far as turboing the bike goes, that is stupid. While I appreciate all the work that you see going in to these turbo busas and what not, a turbo really isn't that useful on a motorcycle. There are plenty of car manufacturers that turbo there cars from the factory...how many bike companies put turbos on there bikes factory? None that I know...they all toyed with it in the 80s and i'm sure there are plenty of good reasons why they don't anymore.

 

After looking around (JUST GOOGLE dENVER MOTORCYCLES OR hIGH ALT) Most people are saying the carbed bikes its mandatory to get a bigger jet in the mountains. As for mapping thats a no brainer

 

i gotta agree that all the hating on FHL is gettin outa hand and annoying... every time the kid post hes got someone in his post talkin ****. Sure he brought it all on himself for saying he can do **** he couldnt befor he could even do a wheelie, but hes progressing and i also agree that its stupid that hes blaming everything on somethin else except for himself not knowing how to do the trick.

But everyone needs to chill out on FHL hes probably one of the most known names on the board just for the fact that everyone rags on his ***.... just my .02

 

exactly, the kid's a ***

 

Nobody has bashed him for learning. Infact, this thread isn't bashing him either! Try and take his **** out of your *** before posting again, its interfering with your thought process!

 

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I've got two qick things to say.

1) There is a power loss in the much higher altitude. People with drag bikes who come down to the lower elevation for AMA Prostar meets are the prime example. That's when you see just how much of a difference air pressure can make in atmosphere. It doesn't take a genius to jet out the carbs , swap out the air cleaner for a higher flow and put on a supertrap exhaust.

2) As far as not being able to wheelie it, You can wheelie damn near anything with a throttle. I'm not good at stunting crotch rockets but dirtbikes, trials bikes, and ATV's I'n got on lockdown and you can stunt any of them. You can get one of the cheap knock off dirtbikes and stunt it. It doesn't matter. It just takes practice. The main thing people have trouble getting over is that feeling the rushes over you when the front wheel starts coming up way farther than it ever has before. People are way scared to loop it. If you're that scared and you want to get over it and you're learning with a small dirtbike, you can easily make a rail system out of **** at home depot with a wheel on the end that you can bolt onto the frame under the rear seat that act like a 12 bar. It might take a little inginuity and brain power but it's not that hard. Hold the rear brake and get someone to help you pick the front of the bike up and find the balance point if it standing still. Dip the front down a little more and you have the angle of the rolling balance point. Install your gadget so that the wheel hits the ground in between the standing balance point and the rolling balance point. Now you can practice pulling up slow wheelies and if you go a little too far you will bounce off the wheel and come right back down safely. I used this method to teach my cousin how to ride wheelies on a trials bike. She rocks circles around me now and I can't keep up. lol

 

ummm that kid has Down Syndrom which has nothing to do with him taking it in the ***. SO DS kids dont equal **** and If one of the stunt teams here kid a show at a childrens hospital those kids would freaking love it. ANd The news would gove some good coverage as well.

 

lmfao this thread is hilarious, i also tried talking to FHL but he used the altitude excuse and blah blah, but basically he said his gsxr600 could beat hayabusa's...that the times he ran in the 1/4 and is faster than a busa; but IMO he is a douchebag that just needs to leave SL or just stop posting so he dont embarass himself any further

 

im not disagreein that the kids not makin an *** of himself. Im just tired of seeing **** posted about him lol.