a good friend of mine that i got started riding bikes,
kinda shut me down as far as riding at all around my area

wont say to much since he hasnt gone to court yet but red theses articles and leme know what you think about negligent injury

articles here:

Deputy's condition improving Vermilion Parish Sheriff's Deputy Stanley Campbell was taken out of the intensive care unit at Lafayette General Hospital and moved into a private room after sustaining severe injuries in an accident while on duty. Campbell was assisting in a high-speed pursuit in North Vermilion Parish when he lost control of his vehicle.

http://www.klfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3744454

 

It's hardly his fault the police driver lost control. He was obviously driving beyond his limits.

Hope the guy's ok though.

I normally hold my hands up if i get the light show, stopped doing runners from the plod a couple of years back.


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[QUOTE=Goodluckmonkey]It's hardly his fault the police driver lost control. He was obviously driving beyond his limits.

it seems that simple, say an officer was responding to a bank robbery or whatever and he was injured en route would the robber be charged with that too if he was caught seems assonine to me but im no lawyer

 

[QUOTE=BILL50]Exactly. the copper had the choice wether to chase him or not, and also had the choice of how fast he was gonna enter each corner.

Looks like the biker is being made a scapegoat. Everyone will side with the copper who can't drive for ****, for the simple reason that us bikers are portrayed as being the scum of the earth. This is more fuel for the anti-bike lobbyists.

 

[QUOTE=BILL50]hey the i bet the cop didnt have highspeed training .... but even if he did he should know his driving limits if he can keep up safely he should have called of the chase instead of a dumbass ............... but hey just b/c someone is a cop doesnt mean there smart hes just human . hope he pulls through but im still a firm believer in FTP as far as traffic laws are concerned :YEAH b/c most of my 85 + traffic tickets ive gotten have been dissmissed or defered :YEAH so GET A GOOD LAWYER you can speen and break all the laws you want as long as u like wastin money on tickets .............you weigh your prioritys and decide

 

exactly that is why we are shopping the best lawyer that will expose this as well as many more discrepencies(sp?)including possible brutality b/c there is no reason that someone wearing full gear to have injuries indicative of brutality.i understand the tackling of a suspect is protocol but wearing helmet and jacket on it would be pretty hard to get black eyes and such

 

The old "he fell down the stairs" trick. It's hardly fair.

Hope it gets sorted, and that the truth comes out.

 

Im not being fummy,but does he have a GOOD lawyer? The state is going to try and F him.

 

yeah I agree that the state/city, whichever, will try and fu(k him besause "if he wasn't breaking the law, the cop wouldn't have tried to stop him" unfortunately, he is gonna need one hell of a lawyer, especially if the cop is really f-ed up..... unfortunately our "fair" judicial system is hella biased............i see jail time a huge possibility.....hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it needs to be taken into consideration as a possibility....

 

That sux there not supposed to chase us in florida if it exedes 100 mph. I think a cop died last year or two years ago. There was a thread about it on here never found the rider. When a cop turns on his lights his camera is supposed to be running right?they have some pretty damn good cameras too cost us taxpayers a lot of money. point is wouldn't the cop just be able to get a shot of his license plate and then arrest the guy later? or if they had a road block why not just corner him?

 

Thats BS ur buddy is not to blame for that cops accident.

Here in NY there is a supposedly no chase law also. The popo arent supposed to chase a suspect over a certain distance unless it was a violent crime...this ofcourse doesnt mean shiet, if the cops wanna chase u till their gas tanks run dry theyre gonna anyway.

 

**** THAT **** I HOPE URE FRIEND GOES DOWN. I CANT believe you are *****in about this , your friend is doing 120+ and a cop chases? Will you please tell me in what state thats legal? A Cop Does his job and you guys down him , it wasnt about his boundries , he just lost control and was in icu , but if some rapes ure sis who u callin?The police ? and you guys make fun of the cop? honestly the stupid *** doing 120 not pulling over should be in icu not the officer doing his JOB. You know i speed and stunt , but i NEVER put anyone elses life in danger , and if cop threw on his lights , I AM MAN ENOUGH TO PULL OVER , and take the ticket , not endanger other human lifes and then cry about, you guys do realize , if you just pull over and take a 40 ticket , this **** wouldnt happen.

 

dude that sucks, but like someone else said, have a good lawyer because they might try to F... your friend over.

 

You know ive read this story 3 times now , and i still have no sympathy for the guy riding the bike! all he had to do was pull over , i mean a officer is icu , and he ended up going to jail ! wheres the happy ending in this story. If he would of pulled over he would of got a ticket , he WOULDNT BE IN JAIL , and a human life would be saved! can someone tell me something im over seeing. I speed and stunt , but when the cherrys light up , i always pull over , not because im scared , but id rather pay in the form of a ticket than jail time or my life.

 

Nobody's saying the guy was right to run from the police.
The point is that the cop crashed of his own accord, the biker shouldn't be blamed for it.

 

Sooo if he was doing 120 mph just on his own, and killed someone innocent, what would you all be saying? Lock his *** up right? So when he broke the law, and the cop attempted to stop him then he takes off. Right there he became a danger to society, and I think the cop has a right to pursue him so long as others arent being endangered. Not saying I don't speed, because I do, but I am willing to accept the consequences regardless of whether I run or not. Personally, I'm tired of everybody complaining about the cops doing their jobs. For something stupid like getting hassled for 5 over fine, thats one thing. But 120mph is more then twice the speed limit of any highway around here, so what do you want the cops to do? Just let that **** happen? That sounds smart...

-Max

 

here's the thing....Clearly, yes it was wrong of him to run, but he did. Yes, it's the cop's job to prevent law breaking the best he can. But, if a buddy of your's says, "see if you can keep up" and flys off into some corners way faster than you feel comfortable with, and you feel like you are going down, you swallow your pride, and take them at whatever speed your skill is. Now, because as police officers, these average everyday men and women, are taken into the force, and are (the majority) given a huge *** ego that makes them feel far superior to everyday citizens, and in situations like this, that ego prevents them from seeing when to stop. They get in this vigilante/videogame mindset where this guy breaking a traffic law is the most important thing in the world at that exact point in time, and lose sight of the real world... They get personally involved, and that is where police officers stop doing thier jobs right. My dad is a cop, and while it would clearly really hurt me if he was injured on duty in a similiar situation, I wouldn't blame the person who ran. My dad and most of the cops he is close to outside of work wouldnt chase a bike, because they know how dangerous it is.

 

Ok, a traffic violation is one thing, but speeds the set up a a possible vehicular manslaughter etc. etc. is another. If a guy walks into a bank with a gun, he might not shoot anyone, but I bet his *** is still getting arrested. You all seem to think of the 'now' and not what could happen and what could be prevented. As a cop, it's his job to put his life on the line. He does it everyday. His job is to keep law and order, not pick who can do what and why. The law is the law, plain and simple. Some people just can't seem to fathom the fact that bikers have to abide by the law too. Would you argue the same points if someone in a car ran? No, chances are you would say chase his *** down. What makes cyclists so special? I'm not even going to lie, I run if if I know I can without putting others in danger (havent had to other then 2 occasions). But if I were to get caught, I'm going to accept the consequences of my actions..

-Max.

 

yes, it is the cops job to stop people from breaking the law, but if he is driving beyond where he can safely continue the pursuit, fine... What if he lost control into another car on the roadway, he would be catching the heat, not the rider.... in most cities almost every pd has a no chase policy on motor cycles. Or i can gaurauntee you that in training they were told that if they could not uphold the law safely, to stand down. In certain instances, cops enter this hero mode, and carelessly endanger themselves, and possibly others. The cop almost throwing his life away didnt apprehend the criminal did it? The barricade that would have been there whether or not he pursued stopped the guy. Cops chasing bikes is stupid because unfortunately for them, bikes are faster and handle far better in chase situations. That rumored over 100mph vehicular manslaughter ticket is bullshit, I'm sorry but it doesnt work like that. And kelm. If you ever exceed the speed limit to the point of a cop pulling you over, your a fu(king idiot. You cant take off your fu(king plastics on your own and you are talking about running from the police. jesus. seriously, I'm sorry dude, but the cop didnt have to CHASE him down. he could of attempted to follow him at a safe speed, and radioed in a roadblock and all wouldve been fine. The careless driver would have been apprehended all the same. I can sit here and argue cop stuff all day with you but there's no point. My dad is a cop, and I have talked with him about almost every possible situation. Yes in the city/state/federal eyes, it's the rider's fault, but in actuallity, no, it's not. THe cop couldve stood down. Thats all I am gonna say about it.