Now, i thought ill share my "theory" about endos on a downhill slope. I noticed that when doing endos, when I go on BP and let the brakes off, I actually start speeding up! Now this is great, cos as Bender and I spoke about it, what happens if someone can hold the endo on BP with hardly any brakes (critical here) then you should theoretically speed up and do more distance. No, im not smoking Benders finest... im being legit. I already picked up another 12 meters today doing just that (now 96meters) without any speed increase on launch.

 

well done bro:YEAH good to hear you have progressed with stoppies again. awesome feeling when you no your rolling further then what you normally do and just want it to keep goin and goin. keep it up bro

 

that sounds like fun, but i dont have a big slope??

how far you getting on flat???

 

Distance is nothing for me to brag about. I still have problems picking up the entry speed, with a few tank slappers (not agressive, but had to put it down). So im trying to make up for it, although really, should get a damper.

 

You know it is impossible to speed up on a flat peice of pavement right?

You may be slowing at a much slower rate but to say you speed up. You're kdding???

I still think if you got a stoppy high enough to speed up going down hill, you'd loop out.

 

Im talking about a slope mate, not a flat piece. So, lets say your just rolling along in neutral down a slope, you will speed up right. So the same goes for endos, if you on BP (on and off the brakes) goign down hill, same principal applies. Yes, it would be next to impossible to hold it there constantly, but like I said, I have increased distance just by playing right on BP. Try it out dude, youll see what I mean.

 

he's saying going down hill. you know how your bike will slowly accel if your in neutral when going down hill?


he's saying that downhill force being greater than the amount of brake you are using in the endo, doing that technically you can accelerate

 

you been chasin a dampner now for 4 months, pull ya finger out and open ya moth riden wallet and buy one ya rich bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no point in keep wingeing about it and usin it as an excuse ya inbred tall streaka duck ****!!! lol

 

Right... I do understand that.


However wouldn't gravity have the same effect on the motorcycle. I still think you would be in a constant state of decel unless you went passed ballance point. No matter the grade.

Now I wouldn't bet a whole bunch of money on this but I think it is so.

 

Want to borrow my dynamics book and figure it out?

 

I'd need a translator. You down for that???? LOL....

 

No. But you will accelerate around ballance point. Think about a steep hill in your car and draging the brakes. You still gain speed. I'll expalin it in person next time I see you.

 

think like this........

when your at the top of a STEEP hill, and you wanna come down it slowly with any power from the motor, you apply a small amount of brakes. the car will accelerate until the point where the brakes and the downhill force eqaulize.


thus, if your doing a stoppie, and using only a SMALL amount of brake, you can accelerate to a certain speed, depending on the hill and how hard the brakes are being applied.

 

I don't agree. I think you may decel at a lower rate, however I think you would still be in a constant state of decel.

 

I bet the grade would have to be 45 degree or greater. If not I bet there is a grade that one side of that grade you'd be at a constant state of decell and the other you may be able to be in accelaration.

 

regardless, there will be an amount of force pushing you. if you had a steep enough hill and your endo was high enough, you could.


i use to roll like coasters like +500-600 feet on the bicycle down this road on the street down the road from me, never really considered it a legit coaster tho cuase i could slow down, and if i was smooth enough on the brake, gain some speed back.

 

The angle of my slope isnt that much, just around 20 degrees maybe? This pic shows you around the angle of the road, plus the height of the endo. Im also 90kgs (198lbs) so I dont need to go much heigher....

Anyway, makes for interesting conversation

 

Lay off the drugs Stooge

you will travel further but only because you are NOT QUITE balance point

A coaster COULD travel forever because gravity pulls you beyond balance point

 

Bam! Lay it down NED!!! - I got no clue...I was thinking stooge was on the money, but why could one not get to BP and sit right on top of all the way down, you should speed up if you "could" keep ontop of the balance point, keeping in mind that the balance point is relevent to the hill...

 

It's pulling for the record.

Wheelies are not a fair comparision because you can go way beyond balance point.

But I did look at it with a model last night and I think my theroy is wrong.