help balancing wheelies
help balancing wheelies
first of all your site is tight. anyways i have a raptor and am having a hard time balanceing it. when i ride wheelies i try to use the bake brake to adjust, but it seems like when i get a little to high i let off the gas too and then comes down quick. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
Re: help balancing wheelies
Originally Posted by 05raptor
first of all your site is tight. anyways i have a raptor and am having a hard time balanceing it. when i ride wheelies i try to use the bake brake to adjust, but it seems like when i get a little to high i let off the gas too and then comes down quick. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
Re: help balancing wheelies
it's all about the throttle lock. throttle control throttle control throttle control!! then use your brake to stop you from going higher, not the throttle. Then you can get used to the right amount of throttle input you need to use.
I wish I didn't have to worry about side to side balance. I should have picked quads to stunt instead of bikes.
I wish I didn't have to worry about side to side balance. I should have picked quads to stunt instead of bikes.
Re: help balancing wheelies
i had/have the exakt same problem 
offcourse i know about the brake thing too !
and i do use it now
i can say allready its making me go longer and longer,but the raptor seem to me to be a wierd contraption wheeling
but its proberly just me beeing 25 years out of "tune"

offcourse i know about the brake thing too !
and i do use it now
i can say allready its making me go longer and longer,but the raptor seem to me to be a wierd contraption wheeling
but its proberly just me beeing 25 years out of "tune"
Re: help balancing wheelies
Originally Posted by 05raptor
first of all your site is tight. anyways i have a raptor and am having a hard time balanceing it. when i ride wheelies i try to use the bake brake to adjust, but it seems like when i get a little to high i let off the gas too and then comes down quick. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
I would try a sit-down from a dead stop... pop the clutch and get the front end up high quickly. Use that back brake to stop you from flipping. The more you practice this move, the easier it'll be each time.
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Re: help balancing wheelies
There are a couple things you can try.
The "throttle lock" that Jared mentions is good. He pretty much means that you try to keep the throttle in the same place once you get the quad up to balance point. In other words, being very smooth with it, slight adjustments.
Sounds like you are "blipping" or "chopping" the throttle. That is about the worst thing you can do. I'm guessing you pop it up quickly (cause a 660 surely has no problem doing that), and then you let almost completely off the throttle to prevent from going over, and then when it drops down a bit you whack it open again, and then let off, and so on and so on.
Practice is really the only remedy, but there are some tips that might help. You could try wheelies in a higher gear. Because of the gearing, the quad will be less "touchy" in a wheelie, meaning you can adjust slightly more withing having a drastic feeling of the front going up and dropping quickly, even if you are still a throttle-chopper. The downside is if you goof up at a higher speed, it's probably gonna hurt more.
Also, really try to focus on the early part of your wheelie. Get the quad to come up quick, but not so quick that you have to immediatly let off the gas completely or hit the brake to get it to come back down. Ideally, you would hit the gas enough to get it to come up, and once you get right near the base of the balance point you would smoothly let off and hold it at around 1/4 throttle. Adjust "smoothly" to bring the front end higher or lower.
Don't get me wrong, you WILL eventually want to get the front end up as quick as possible, and will have to rely on the brakes to stop you from going back, but when first learning a wheelie just focus on being smooth about things. Don't rush it.
On another note, as the others said, the rear brake is your best friend. Even though I described learning to do wheelies without using the rear brake, doesn't mean that I don't think you should learn it. Always remember that if something goes wrong, you need to use it.
Sorry if I don't make sense...been a long day here at work. Let me know if I said anything stupid, and I'll try to clarify better.
Thanks.
-Josh
The "throttle lock" that Jared mentions is good. He pretty much means that you try to keep the throttle in the same place once you get the quad up to balance point. In other words, being very smooth with it, slight adjustments.
Sounds like you are "blipping" or "chopping" the throttle. That is about the worst thing you can do. I'm guessing you pop it up quickly (cause a 660 surely has no problem doing that), and then you let almost completely off the throttle to prevent from going over, and then when it drops down a bit you whack it open again, and then let off, and so on and so on.
Practice is really the only remedy, but there are some tips that might help. You could try wheelies in a higher gear. Because of the gearing, the quad will be less "touchy" in a wheelie, meaning you can adjust slightly more withing having a drastic feeling of the front going up and dropping quickly, even if you are still a throttle-chopper. The downside is if you goof up at a higher speed, it's probably gonna hurt more.
Also, really try to focus on the early part of your wheelie. Get the quad to come up quick, but not so quick that you have to immediatly let off the gas completely or hit the brake to get it to come back down. Ideally, you would hit the gas enough to get it to come up, and once you get right near the base of the balance point you would smoothly let off and hold it at around 1/4 throttle. Adjust "smoothly" to bring the front end higher or lower.
Don't get me wrong, you WILL eventually want to get the front end up as quick as possible, and will have to rely on the brakes to stop you from going back, but when first learning a wheelie just focus on being smooth about things. Don't rush it.
On another note, as the others said, the rear brake is your best friend. Even though I described learning to do wheelies without using the rear brake, doesn't mean that I don't think you should learn it. Always remember that if something goes wrong, you need to use it.
Sorry if I don't make sense...been a long day here at work. Let me know if I said anything stupid, and I'll try to clarify better.
Thanks.
-Josh
Re: help balancing wheelies
Originally Posted by PhearCVBz
There are a couple things you can try.
The "throttle lock" that Jared mentions is good. He pretty much means that you try to keep the throttle in the same place once you get the quad up to balance point. In other words, being very smooth with it, slight adjustments.
Sounds like you are "blipping" or "chopping" the throttle. That is about the worst thing you can do. I'm guessing you pop it up quickly (cause a 660 surely has no problem doing that), and then you let almost completely off the throttle to prevent from going over, and then when it drops down a bit you whack it open again, and then let off, and so on and so on.
Practice is really the only remedy, but there are some tips that might help. You could try wheelies in a higher gear. Because of the gearing, the quad will be less "touchy" in a wheelie, meaning you can adjust slightly more withing having a drastic feeling of the front going up and dropping quickly, even if you are still a throttle-chopper. The downside is if you goof up at a higher speed, it's probably gonna hurt more.
Also, really try to focus on the early part of your wheelie. Get the quad to come up quick, but not so quick that you have to immediatly let off the gas completely or hit the brake to get it to come back down. Ideally, you would hit the gas enough to get it to come up, and once you get right near the base of the balance point you would smoothly let off and hold it at around 1/4 throttle. Adjust "smoothly" to bring the front end higher or lower.
Don't get me wrong, you WILL eventually want to get the front end up as quick as possible, and will have to rely on the brakes to stop you from going back, but when first learning a wheelie just focus on being smooth about things. Don't rush it.
On another note, as the others said, the rear brake is your best friend. Even though I described learning to do wheelies without using the rear brake, doesn't mean that I don't think you should learn it. Always remember that if something goes wrong, you need to use it.
Sorry if I don't make sense...been a long day here at work. Let me know if I said anything stupid, and I'll try to clarify better.
Thanks.
-Josh
The "throttle lock" that Jared mentions is good. He pretty much means that you try to keep the throttle in the same place once you get the quad up to balance point. In other words, being very smooth with it, slight adjustments.
Sounds like you are "blipping" or "chopping" the throttle. That is about the worst thing you can do. I'm guessing you pop it up quickly (cause a 660 surely has no problem doing that), and then you let almost completely off the throttle to prevent from going over, and then when it drops down a bit you whack it open again, and then let off, and so on and so on.
Practice is really the only remedy, but there are some tips that might help. You could try wheelies in a higher gear. Because of the gearing, the quad will be less "touchy" in a wheelie, meaning you can adjust slightly more withing having a drastic feeling of the front going up and dropping quickly, even if you are still a throttle-chopper. The downside is if you goof up at a higher speed, it's probably gonna hurt more.
Also, really try to focus on the early part of your wheelie. Get the quad to come up quick, but not so quick that you have to immediatly let off the gas completely or hit the brake to get it to come back down. Ideally, you would hit the gas enough to get it to come up, and once you get right near the base of the balance point you would smoothly let off and hold it at around 1/4 throttle. Adjust "smoothly" to bring the front end higher or lower.
Don't get me wrong, you WILL eventually want to get the front end up as quick as possible, and will have to rely on the brakes to stop you from going back, but when first learning a wheelie just focus on being smooth about things. Don't rush it.
On another note, as the others said, the rear brake is your best friend. Even though I described learning to do wheelies without using the rear brake, doesn't mean that I don't think you should learn it. Always remember that if something goes wrong, you need to use it.
Sorry if I don't make sense...been a long day here at work. Let me know if I said anything stupid, and I'll try to clarify better.
Thanks.
-Josh
that's some good advise right thar
Re: help balancing wheelies
Originally Posted by PhearCVBz
There are a couple things you can try.
The "throttle lock" that Jared mentions is good. He pretty much means that you try to keep the throttle in the same place once you get the quad up to balance point. In other words, being very smooth with it, slight adjustments.
Sounds like you are "blipping" or "chopping" the throttle. That is about the worst thing you can do. I'm guessing you pop it up quickly (cause a 660 surely has no problem doing that), and then you let almost completely off the throttle to prevent from going over, and then when it drops down a bit you whack it open again, and then let off, and so on and so on.
Practice is really the only remedy, but there are some tips that might help. You could try wheelies in a higher gear. Because of the gearing, the quad will be less "touchy" in a wheelie, meaning you can adjust slightly more withing having a drastic feeling of the front going up and dropping quickly, even if you are still a throttle-chopper. The downside is if you goof up at a higher speed, it's probably gonna hurt more.
Also, really try to focus on the early part of your wheelie. Get the quad to come up quick, but not so quick that you have to immediatly let off the gas completely or hit the brake to get it to come back down. Ideally, you would hit the gas enough to get it to come up, and once you get right near the base of the balance point you would smoothly let off and hold it at around 1/4 throttle. Adjust "smoothly" to bring the front end higher or lower.
Don't get me wrong, you WILL eventually want to get the front end up as quick as possible, and will have to rely on the brakes to stop you from going back, but when first learning a wheelie just focus on being smooth about things. Don't rush it.
On another note, as the others said, the rear brake is your best friend. Even though I described learning to do wheelies without using the rear brake, doesn't mean that I don't think you should learn it. Always remember that if something goes wrong, you need to use it.
Sorry if I don't make sense...been a long day here at work. Let me know if I said anything stupid, and I'll try to clarify better.
Thanks.
-Josh
The "throttle lock" that Jared mentions is good. He pretty much means that you try to keep the throttle in the same place once you get the quad up to balance point. In other words, being very smooth with it, slight adjustments.
Sounds like you are "blipping" or "chopping" the throttle. That is about the worst thing you can do. I'm guessing you pop it up quickly (cause a 660 surely has no problem doing that), and then you let almost completely off the throttle to prevent from going over, and then when it drops down a bit you whack it open again, and then let off, and so on and so on.
Practice is really the only remedy, but there are some tips that might help. You could try wheelies in a higher gear. Because of the gearing, the quad will be less "touchy" in a wheelie, meaning you can adjust slightly more withing having a drastic feeling of the front going up and dropping quickly, even if you are still a throttle-chopper. The downside is if you goof up at a higher speed, it's probably gonna hurt more.
Also, really try to focus on the early part of your wheelie. Get the quad to come up quick, but not so quick that you have to immediatly let off the gas completely or hit the brake to get it to come back down. Ideally, you would hit the gas enough to get it to come up, and once you get right near the base of the balance point you would smoothly let off and hold it at around 1/4 throttle. Adjust "smoothly" to bring the front end higher or lower.
Don't get me wrong, you WILL eventually want to get the front end up as quick as possible, and will have to rely on the brakes to stop you from going back, but when first learning a wheelie just focus on being smooth about things. Don't rush it.
On another note, as the others said, the rear brake is your best friend. Even though I described learning to do wheelies without using the rear brake, doesn't mean that I don't think you should learn it. Always remember that if something goes wrong, you need to use it.
Sorry if I don't make sense...been a long day here at work. Let me know if I said anything stupid, and I'll try to clarify better.
Thanks.
-Josh
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