yeah a roundbar would be much more user friendly for wen u highside out of a circle gone bad,haha

i dont agree on using it to "protect your plastcs"...this will only put your subframe up your *** if you 12 o clock it too hard.. respect was right on the money..itll cost you more in replacement frames than getting a 25 dollar set of plastics off ebay motors

i run a 50stunt 12 bar and have no complaints about it.i bought shin guards with it

what others ideas u got out there??

 

so the subframes are weak when using the 12 bar i would like one in the future but i'm a bigger guy and would probably tweak the frame right away. i don't really want it to stand it on the ground i want it for some place to put my foot and try stuff that way. can i reinforce the frame some how?

 

well the frame on a 50 isnt very strong,the 50stunt 12 bar has a mounting system that reinforces itself,it dosent mean you can slam it down and it wont bend,if u learn to roll a 12 o clock wheelie without a bar,then install 1 wen your good at balance and brake controll youll be alot more gentile on your frame.i actually snapped the subframe on my fiddy and had to replace the frame. and i oly weigh 110 pounds.

ive heard of people putting rebar down inside their subframe to try to strengthen it up but ive never tried it

basiclly u dont wanna learn to scrape 12 on your everyday bike ,untill u can roll a nice 12 o clock coaster.

 

if u have a welder or a friend that welds u could do anything..u could patch up your frame and reinforce the dog **** outta it

 

Yeah, I don't so much care about protecting my plastics as I like the idea of having a place to put my foot without having a bar sticking a foot off the back. I haven't looped the fiddy out since the first week I bought it (learned brake control lol) so that doesn't really worry me.

 

now if i'm looking at getting a hb setup is there a setup for a clutched 50? i eventually wana clutch my bike but also want the hb setup is it possible?

 

The HB is the same, no matter if u have a clutch or not. The only difference is, u will have 2 levers on ur left bar (clutch and HB), versus just having one lever on ur left bar for the HB...=-)

 

get a moose ezpull lever for your clutch,itll take some of the stress off your left hand and lube the bable on your hb every couple rides

 

oh ok cuz i thought the rear hb was on the right bar i guess that would make sense but hard to do since i'm right handed hmm thanks for the help tho i'll figure it out eventually. Also is it possible to do stoppies on the stock front brake my brake does grab nearly enough to get the back tire off the ground. something else i have to do?

 

yes, except on the smaller bikes with the crappy brakes, you pretty much use your body to bring the rear up, cant do what you do on the bike bikes and just grab a handfull of brake and ride it up, you gotta grab the bike with your legs, and kinda jump forward to bring it up

 

i installed a getto round bar on mine wurked great until sub frame gave out....

 

Thats what i was thinking kind of like a bmx bike to get the back off kinda hook your feet and use your body to pull up

 

i took like this little 50cc pocket bike and the whole sub frame is like a giant round bar u just have to kut it to ur length... i have a amp and speakers on my xr80 and it bumps hard..im the only 1 so far i think..