I've found out that its quite easy to push start the fifty and was wondering if it's bad for the bike. I click up to 3rd gear and keep it pinned up in N. I roll the bike at walking pace and then release the gear shift as I keep rolling forward. It starts pretty easy this way. I just wonder if I can do away with the kick start lever. I've busted my ankle bad on it quite a few times and it gets caught up in my pants.

 

i've ripped like 4 pairs of pants on my kickstart thing so i have to wear boots or shin guards on the outside of my pants so it dont get caught

 

get a cr85 kick started your pants wont get cought up again

 

Eh do the KOTO mod. I invented it and all so gimme credit. Take your kickstart off the splined shaft and move it down level with the footpeg so it sits horizontal when not in use. When you fold out the arm your foot should be right behind the footpeg. Fiddys turn over easy and it still starts real easy. Had my kickstand like this since a week after I got the bike and I haven't gotten my pants even close to snagging on it since.

Ask others on here, it works well.

 

i push start mine all the time. my apt. manager doesn't like me riding past his front door, so i always push it like a scooter. one knee on the seat, one foot pushing. when i get to the end of the sidewalk, i just drop it into gear while i'm still moving. fires every time, and i'm off wheelieing into the sunset.

doesn't seem to be hurting anything.

 

I wouldnt drop it into gear just leave it in gear and push it, and seat bounce it
dont drop it into gear like that your going to end up grinding off teeth on the gears in the tranny

 

koto showed another guy we ride with that over the weekend looks like it works good i need to do mine this week i almost wrecked coming off a jump last night because of that thing

 

it's no worse on the tranny than clutching a wheelie.

 

He got this on the money man. Dont hold it up, just pop it in third and run with it, starts just as easy.
If you push start it, it won't hurt it at all unless you keep doing it the way you were with holding the shifter up in third and droping it. If it was meant to do that then the bike would have a clutch, which it dosen't.
It's the exact same as kick starting it, your just rotating the cylinder and all that **** to get the gas going in... won't do anything bad to it.
I would keep the kick starter on just in case but velcro it or tie it in place in case you ever really need it.

 

Actaully yea it is, the fiddys don't have clutches. The concept of a clutch lets the plates slip, the fiddys don't do that... they lock in place and after some smashing on it they will probably break. Different kind of clutch on a fiddy so it's a little different.

 

i was referring to a manual clutch, as on a regular bike.
sorry for the confusion.

the sudden impact on the tranny gears is the same though. thats what i was getting at.

 

damn..guys your gonna grind your gear teeth to hell..thats one of the worst way to start a fiddy

 

yup, and i have a spare tranny too.
you play you pay.
as if doing wheelies, all the oil at the rear of the motor, is any better for a bike. just goes with the game.



and just out of curiosity, what is a honda rm650?? is that a typo, or did you stuff a honda motor into an rm?

 

fiddys dont have clutches? this thread is hillarious. the auto clutch in a fiddy is almost identical to that of a manual. honda has it set up so the shifter acts like a lever would on a manual clutch. same concept. isnt gonna do any more damage than simply shifting your bike would. put it in 3rd and hold up on the shifter till u get some speed then let the shifter go. start right up. no harm done.

 

Man, that is one of the stupidest things I've heard in a long time. You need a trophy. But back to damageing the tranny, it you do what fab says and have the shifter up or just shift into gear you affecting the clutch and not the gears itself, so I wouldn't worry about it.

 

thank you!! after i wrote my reply, i thought about it. what the hell difference does it make if it's a manual clutch or not, the 50's clutch setup is almost the same as a regular clutch, it just uses the shift lever as a clutch lever while you're shifting. it's not much of a clutch (something like 2 or 4 plates?) but it does the same thing.

 

Where the hell did you come from on this topic? And NO they don't have clutches. Like you said it's a clutch kit, which means it's automatic. You can't even call that a clutch...not one that you control anyway. Don't worry about it there sparky, we know what were talkin about.

 

wow bud. you have got to be kidding me. you mean to tell me the hundreds of Heavy Duty clutch kits i have installed and sold are fake?!?! god damnit!! someone give me my money back!! i want to know what this part is then...

 

What are you talking about ..... ... and who the fu(k are you .....
First off Fab is one of the most knowledgeable mechanics there is especially when it comes to 50s ... 2nd rookie don't walk in here with that kind of attitude when you don't know who the fu(k you're talkin to ...

BTW you made your self look real stupid so I would quit while your ahead ... Since you think you know what your talking about why don't you enlighten us as to what it's called if "you can't even call that a clutch"

 

wow, thats all I can realy say at this point(not directed to you fab or scott).
This is like the blind leading the blind.