Help getting started racing...
Help getting started racing...
Hi everyone, i'm 15 and I live in West Palm Beach. I am goign to begin racing at Moroso Motorsports Park very soon, and I could use some pointers, suggestions, or any comments that are availibe. My dad races for about 3 years all up and down the eastern part of the U.S. so he's knowledgable, but it's been about 10 years since then so everything is different. Please if you have a any info, tips, suggestions, comments about where to begin, what type of bike/class is best for a beginer, PLEASE post them here. Like I said, we have the main idea but could use some imput. Thanks alot!
Re: Help getting started racing...
First of all, do you have any expierience on a street bike? Whatever you do, you'll need to do some trackdays and get some kind of track expierience. If you're serious about racing and LEARNING, then start out on a 125cc 2-stroke. These bikes are plenty fast and will teach you tons about cornering and carrying corner speed. Do this for a year or two, and step up to a 600cc. You probably think that a 125 is a joke and there's nothing cool about it, but in this scene you'll get more respect and help from people because it shows you WANT to learn and not some punk kid that wants to be Valentino Rossi on his brand new sportbike that his parents just bought him. Racing takes A LOT of $$$$$$$$$, to get into it you need leathers, boots, gloves, and of course helmet. You usually go through a set of tires in a weekend which is the most expensive part of the sport provided you don't crash and have to fix the bike. Below are some links to get started. Let me know if you have anymore questions.
http://www.ccsracing.com/
Lists of racing schools:
http://www.motorsportsemployment.com...g_schools.html
http://www.ccsracing.com/
Lists of racing schools:
http://www.motorsportsemployment.com...g_schools.html
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1. Yes, my dad has been bringing me to places and teaching me the basics, etc. 2. We are getting registered for a drivers school to get certified to get a CCS license. 3. I have leathers, boots, gloves, helm. My dads old ones ^ ^. Thanks for the tips on the bike and stuff. Ill look in to that. Re: Help getting started racing...
Originally Posted by Oni
1. Yes, my dad has been bringing me to places and teaching me the basics, etc. 2. We are getting registered for a drivers school to get certified to get a CCS license. 3. I have leathers, boots, gloves, helm. My dads old ones ^ ^. Thanks for the tips on the bike and stuff. Ill look in to that. Re: Help getting started racing...
Originally Posted by Ricochet105
Do you mean riders school? What school are you going to? What kind of bike do you have in mind? I just want to say that it's cool that you want to get into racing, and at least you'll be on the track. Just keep the RACING ON THE TRACK.
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That's cool, I wish I could have started when I was your age. Racing takes a lot of dedication, time and most of all Money. Also, about my suggestion on starting on a 125, is coming from 1) Obviously, you have to start somewhere. That's how they do it in Europe: 125cc, 250cc etc.. If your dad has knowledge of 2-stroke engines that would be a plus, because 2-strokes need more maintenance. But this will also give you more knowledge, mechanically. 2) I've been riding that 50cc Metrakit, and there are kids as young as 8yrs. old that are getting precious knowledge about cornering. And I have a hard time keeping up with them. Last Sunday me and Ray Jr. (he's 11 years old, pictured below) rode the kart track at Moroso and this kid is fast. I can't keep up with him, and I'm not ashamed to say that he has given me pointers which I gladly accept. With the knowledge/skills he has, by the time he gets on a 600, well all can say is FAAAAAAAAAAAST.
3) If you race at least the Florida circuit and excel, you might have a good chance of getting picked up by a team by the time you're 18.
3) If you race at least the Florida circuit and excel, you might have a good chance of getting picked up by a team by the time you're 18.
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Originally Posted by Oni
o and we were really lookin in to a suzuki sv 650s, they seem competitive, cheap, u kno start in a supersport class.
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Well, he hs knowlesge of almost about anything... hes prolly the best handy man around, and wen he coems to engines he knows what hes talkin bout, hes a airplane mechanic for a private jet, the owner of cambles soup owns the jet ^ ^. When he raced he started on a honda hawk, it was a 600 or 700 or something and he bored it out to a 750, he was bout to become and expert but the money was to much for us so he quit, he took 10 place overall at the championships, 1st in ametuer and he passed more than half of the experts. I am a big fella, bout 6'2 and still growing. 170lbs and still ganin weight. I really want to race a bigger bike but like u said its not bout that at first its bout wanting to learn.
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Originally Posted by Ricochet105
That is the most competative class. It seems like everybody races supersport. It will be hard for you to get anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Oni
Yes, but supersport, u have limited amount of stuff u can do o ur bike, so its cheaper and im on a little budjet, superbike, u can do alot so if i wanted to be competitive there i need alot more money. Am i wrong? i might have the 2 confused.
SUPERBIKE - This is the premier class at Formula USA events. Requires stock frame, wheels, brakes, and engine cases. Machines are limited to 115 max horsepower and 360 lb min weight.
640cc maximum liquid-cooled four-cylinder
775cc maximum air-cooled four-cylinder
980cc maximum three-cylinder
800cc maximum liquid cooled twin-cylinder
Unlimited displacement air cooled twin-cylinder
Unlimited displacement single-cylinder
DOT tires required
FORMULA SPORTBIKE - This is the big brother of the premier class at Formula USA events. Requires stock frame, wheels, brakes, and engine cases. Machines are limited to 140 max horsepower and 370 lb min weight.
775cc maximum liquid-cooled four-cylinder
1100cc maximum air-cooled four-cylinder
1000cc maximum liquid cooled twin-cylinder
Unlimited displacement all other engine configurations
DOT tires required
SUPERBIKE - Heavily modified middleweights. After market wheels and suspensions are allowed.
660cc maximum liquid-cooled four-cylinder
1200cc maximum air-cooled, two-valve, four-cylinder
980cc maximum three-cylinder
800cc maximum four-valve twin-cylinder
Unlimited displacement less than four-valve twin-cylinder
Unlimited displacement two-stroke
320cc maximum liquid-cooled two-stroke
340 lb minimum weight limit
Slick tires allowed
THUNDERBIKES - A class with an eclectic mix of bikes indexed together. Buell, Suzuki, Triumph, Ducati, Aprilia, and other production-based singles, twins and triples can all compete together. (The Ducati 748 series machines are excluded from Thunderbike).
800cc maximum liquid cooled twin, four valve per cylinder, non-desmodromic valves.
Unlimited displacement air cooled twin cylinder
1200cc maximum three cylinder, non-fuel injected
Unlimited displacement single cylinder
Slick tires allowed
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Hmm ya i got a huuuge thing of information like that from that site, me and my dad are gonna have to sit down and read up ^ ^. Question, do you or anyone that you go to moroso with race? -Also is the first thing on your last post suppose to be Supersport? cuz there to Superbikes.?¿
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Try this link to the new racer package, it's in PDF format. That will give you all the rules and breaks down the classes. http://www.formulausa.com/forms/2004%20newracerpkg.pdf
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Thats the "Huuuge thing of info" that i have lol. I read most of the class breakdown part. Ill talk with my dad he can better explain it to me cuz it is hard over the internet ^ ^
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Yeah, you have hours of info from that site. But it's everything you'll need to know. I was just about to get licensed and start racing but I'm going back to school, and ended up selling my 600 gixxer. When I'm done with school and making more $$, I'm getting right back into it. For now I'm going to start racing the Metrakit with WERA. My fiances brother and another friend got their licenses last weekend with Longevity Racing. If you go to the next race at Moroso Aug. 28-29th, we'll all be there and I'm pretty sure that we are running the Mini's on the kart track.
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Also, if you go to the forums at: http://www.jenningsgp.com , you will get a lot more suggestions from proffesional riders. The atmosphere there is more serious, and it will take longer to get replies but should be worth it. Also, If you didn't know about that track, you should because it makes Moroso look like garbage. Just a fair warning you'll probably get **** from a lot of haters because you're 15.
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Roebling road, Bloomingdale Ga. If you ever get an opportunity to ride that track, go for it. It is so much fun, and it's on CCS Florida , CCS south east and WERA race dates. Being this new to the sport and so tall, stick with twin bikes...good torque and inexpensive. Remember "It's not the top speed, it's the corner speed "
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Originally Posted by twinisin
Roebling road, Bloomingdale Ga. If you ever get an opportunity to ride that track, go for it. It is so much fun, and it's on CCS Florida , CCS south east and WERA race dates. Being this new to the sport and so tall, stick with twin bikes...good torque and inexpensive. Remember "It's not the top speed, it's the corner speed " 


- hey is that 650sv2 , is that a sv650s or is it totally differnt, cuz the sv650s is what were really lookin to start off with and culd use some imput on it.
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it's 650SV2. In actuality it is a 2002 SV650 and the "2" stands for modified from the original "1". I got Vortex clipons, Diamont cawl, F2 fender, VH stack exhaust, Road Boy lights, I raised the tail by 4"+ and put on a TL1000 scoup, made a cage and that be that. Bike is stunt ready and 5 minutes away from race ready. I didn't want a SV650s because they are more expensive, 11lbs heavier, and the aergonomics on them are not nearly aggresive for racing. It also looks too much like a TL1000s from a distance. Don't buy it, get a standart SV since you won't need the fairing on it anyways
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