Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
12-10-2004, 10:34 PM
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Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
read this thread and either post there or post in this thread....
any and all suggestions and/or thoughts welcome!!
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=103876
lets discuss this stunt event and its possible ramifications here. lets also discuss how we can get stunts outside of this venue.
we should also discuss the stunts that may be taking place at this venue.
to make it real simple: lets discuss this and create a buzz about this event so that whoever it is that is watching us sees thousands of sportbikes outside in the parking lot for this event...this is a great opportunity!
any and all suggestions and/or thoughts welcome!!
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=103876
lets discuss this stunt event and its possible ramifications here. lets also discuss how we can get stunts outside of this venue.
we should also discuss the stunts that may be taking place at this venue.
to make it real simple: lets discuss this and create a buzz about this event so that whoever it is that is watching us sees thousands of sportbikes outside in the parking lot for this event...this is a great opportunity!
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12-10-2004, 10:42 PM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
u figured it out...u dont give up easy...that is great...
back on subject...
i had one Q: the mini event..
who is that open to, is it just circle racing on concrete or is it a real moto race with dirt? ive done a clear channel event....not what i expected...they told us we where there to stunt...and it turned into a race..this time i know its a race...just wanted to know if its dirt, motard or some circle race...
i could kill to birds with one stone...watch the events and ride in it...
back on subject...
i had one Q: the mini event..
who is that open to, is it just circle racing on concrete or is it a real moto race with dirt? ive done a clear channel event....not what i expected...they told us we where there to stunt...and it turned into a race..this time i know its a race...just wanted to know if its dirt, motard or some circle race...
i could kill to birds with one stone...watch the events and ride in it...
12-10-2004, 10:58 PM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
My feelings?
Well ........ its a long time coming for every rider on that list. Its even a longer time coming for some riders not on that list. Maybe just maybe, this event will finally weed out the "wannabe's" that try to make a quick buck with pathetic excuses for competitions and or "show quality" performances. An event like this is needed for a lot of reasons besides just showcasing what the more elite members of the community have to offer. An event like this also will possibly showcase what a real professionally run competition and or series style event can and should be run. Maybe just maybe this will put an end to the circus like competitions that promoters put on day in and day out as a way to fleece the stunt community of not only its hard earned cash but also of the spirit and positive attitude some of these riders had 3 years ago. Its possible that an event like this could be just the "refreshing drink" the morale of some of these riders (and supporters like Thomas and Ken) need to remind themselves why they work so hard to try and get this "sport" to take off so that the next generation might just break even or even make a buck or two. See thats the rub. Whereas a lot of guys say things like "I put my heart and soul into this sport, all for nothing. To get scammed by a shady promoter. To get screwed at a bullshit unfair competition. To get f*@*#d by awfully low payouts.", the guys on that list and the guys who made it possible to have that list in the first place are questioning a lot more than those three things. What is the biggest thing they worry about? Probably if they are gonna put all their heart and soul into something in this sport again, and get screwed by their fellow riders.
If u do nothing else, support this event and these guys. Don't bitch because you are not on the list. Don't talk about how much this sucks because the sport might not stay underground. Don't bash the people who got the guys on the list a chance to compete because its an event run by a big business. Support it because its stunt riding. The sport u all supposedly care about. The sport that you all supposedly live and breathe for. Even if u cant make it to the event. Tell someone about it. Print out a copy of the info and get it posted in your local bike shop. Tell a friend about it. Do something, even if its as little as sending an e-mail to the powers that be that allowed this to happen. Or a pm to Thomas and Ken telling them thanks for their effort, or one of the guys on the list saying good luck. **** post here supporting it so the thread lives a little while longer and more people are made aware!
Rant off!
Well ........ its a long time coming for every rider on that list. Its even a longer time coming for some riders not on that list. Maybe just maybe, this event will finally weed out the "wannabe's" that try to make a quick buck with pathetic excuses for competitions and or "show quality" performances. An event like this is needed for a lot of reasons besides just showcasing what the more elite members of the community have to offer. An event like this also will possibly showcase what a real professionally run competition and or series style event can and should be run. Maybe just maybe this will put an end to the circus like competitions that promoters put on day in and day out as a way to fleece the stunt community of not only its hard earned cash but also of the spirit and positive attitude some of these riders had 3 years ago. Its possible that an event like this could be just the "refreshing drink" the morale of some of these riders (and supporters like Thomas and Ken) need to remind themselves why they work so hard to try and get this "sport" to take off so that the next generation might just break even or even make a buck or two. See thats the rub. Whereas a lot of guys say things like "I put my heart and soul into this sport, all for nothing. To get scammed by a shady promoter. To get screwed at a bullshit unfair competition. To get f*@*#d by awfully low payouts.", the guys on that list and the guys who made it possible to have that list in the first place are questioning a lot more than those three things. What is the biggest thing they worry about? Probably if they are gonna put all their heart and soul into something in this sport again, and get screwed by their fellow riders.
If u do nothing else, support this event and these guys. Don't bitch because you are not on the list. Don't talk about how much this sucks because the sport might not stay underground. Don't bash the people who got the guys on the list a chance to compete because its an event run by a big business. Support it because its stunt riding. The sport u all supposedly care about. The sport that you all supposedly live and breathe for. Even if u cant make it to the event. Tell someone about it. Print out a copy of the info and get it posted in your local bike shop. Tell a friend about it. Do something, even if its as little as sending an e-mail to the powers that be that allowed this to happen. Or a pm to Thomas and Ken telling them thanks for their effort, or one of the guys on the list saying good luck. **** post here supporting it so the thread lives a little while longer and more people are made aware!
Rant off!
12-10-2004, 11:02 PM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
i think that the locals are gonna have to try and get some good riding spots for outside the location. That way it will attract more stunters to go. I think if there isn't any spots to go hit up before and after the event, then less stunt riders will show up.
12-11-2004, 12:10 AM
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We'll be there supporting the event and the sport as we've done for the entire time we've been a team. I know a lot of people(myself included) are disappointed about it not being a competition but there will be other opportunities (that is what this events is all about) for us. Congratulations to Ken and Thomas on getting this event together to showcase all the riders involved skills.
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12-11-2004, 12:51 AM
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I will be there and dragging everyone I can with me to show support. If there is anything I can do outside of attending name it. I want to see this take off as bad as anyone.
I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?
I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?
12-11-2004, 10:23 PM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
This event is sure to be a success with people like Ken and Thomas putting it together. The effort that they continuously put forth with little to no recognition or thanks is amazing! They have assembled an amazing group of riders whom I am sure will more than entertain the crowd!
Teach also needs alot of credit for being in this from the beginning and always pushing to make this more proffessional no matter how many times he got ripped off at competitions! (and for getting me into this sport)
So, if you are within a reasonable driving distance.....please show your support!
Teach also needs alot of credit for being in this from the beginning and always pushing to make this more proffessional no matter how many times he got ripped off at competitions! (and for getting me into this sport)
So, if you are within a reasonable driving distance.....please show your support!
12-11-2004, 10:39 PM
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if im lucky i can go and stand next to paw paw or big balla maybe if i play my cards right i can ride with someone 
12-12-2004, 01:47 AM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
Originally Posted by Lb3
I will be there and dragging everyone I can with me to show support. If there is anything I can do outside of attending name it. I want to see this take off as bad as anyone.
I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?
I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?
YES!!! we DEFINITELY need secure parking. houston is HORRIBLE, i'd be scared shitless of leaving my bike in a parking lot in that area. that is the only thing that concerns me about riding down to houston from fort worth, but if nothing else i guess i can just ride down with the group and then leave my bike at my parents house in the woodlands and cage it. *shrugs*
12-13-2004, 04:36 AM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
I just hope to do my part in helping to pave the way for the future of this sport.
to me it is a sport.
it's fun, and i enjoy it more than anything, but it is also a sport and i am anxious for the day to come when it is finally reconized as such...
regardless of any outcome of the event i can assure you, that i aim to have a great time.
-kane
to me it is a sport.
it's fun, and i enjoy it more than anything, but it is also a sport and i am anxious for the day to come when it is finally reconized as such...
regardless of any outcome of the event i can assure you, that i aim to have a great time.
-kane
12-13-2004, 09:38 AM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
Not much of a "competition" if there is no competition, is it? 
XSBA tried their thing with the AMA circuit and now they are trying again with the MX circuit? Sorry, no disrespect to the "chosen" competitors, as they are all good at what they do, but lets just keep it straight here. If you are going to deny someone with the appropriate credentials, funding, and skills from entry into this event then you should take this event at face value. It is an exhibition NOT a competition.
XSBA tried their thing with the AMA circuit and now they are trying again with the MX circuit? Sorry, no disrespect to the "chosen" competitors, as they are all good at what they do, but lets just keep it straight here. If you are going to deny someone with the appropriate credentials, funding, and skills from entry into this event then you should take this event at face value. It is an exhibition NOT a competition.
12-13-2004, 10:35 AM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
xsba has NEVER tried their thing with AMA...XSBA was Formula USA sanctioned for 3 years and was about as successful as they could be considering a few facts:
1. clear channel did not support this much despite exponentially increasing hits on the xsba website, etc, during the course of its existence.
2. chump riders being all talk and no show, not supporting the xsba events despite the fact that it was the only recognized and sanctioned championship series competition....also despite the fact that the events were held in a wide array of locations...also despite the fact that these events were held at motorcycle races-where there were tons of industry reps....
the failure of the XSBA rests soley upon those riders who did not support it.
correct me if i am wrong, but are the X Games open to everyone?? What about FMX? can you just show up to fmx with your dirtbike and ride? i believe the answer is no.
so...this is not an 'open' competition, just like fmx is not an 'open' competition; that does not mean it is not a competition--i can guarantee i am treating it like a comp and everyone else is riding for 2nd place! lol
for real though...this is hopefully the beginning of something much larger. open competition was desired, but time constraints and space constraints did not allow it. in the future there will be a qualifying procedure...whether the weekend of the event or through prior events.
as as far as the competition, i'll let my ego speak and tell anyone who thinks they got what it takes, or has the qualifications to come see me at stuntwars--where it is an open competition. the riders were chosen out of many, many riders for a variety of reasons. some big names are not on there agian for a variety of reasons. Darius for ex, couldnt make it cuz he couldnt travel to houston, back to cali, and then to florida for stuntwars---it didnt make sense to do so.
like i've said a thousand times already....support the event regardless of the fact that WE ALL are bummed that we call cant ride or at least try to qualify and ride...
this impacts YOU despite the fact that you think it does not.
open your effing eyes people...if you stand for nothing now, you'll settle for nothing later.
1. clear channel did not support this much despite exponentially increasing hits on the xsba website, etc, during the course of its existence.
2. chump riders being all talk and no show, not supporting the xsba events despite the fact that it was the only recognized and sanctioned championship series competition....also despite the fact that the events were held in a wide array of locations...also despite the fact that these events were held at motorcycle races-where there were tons of industry reps....
the failure of the XSBA rests soley upon those riders who did not support it.
correct me if i am wrong, but are the X Games open to everyone?? What about FMX? can you just show up to fmx with your dirtbike and ride? i believe the answer is no.
so...this is not an 'open' competition, just like fmx is not an 'open' competition; that does not mean it is not a competition--i can guarantee i am treating it like a comp and everyone else is riding for 2nd place! lol
for real though...this is hopefully the beginning of something much larger. open competition was desired, but time constraints and space constraints did not allow it. in the future there will be a qualifying procedure...whether the weekend of the event or through prior events.
as as far as the competition, i'll let my ego speak and tell anyone who thinks they got what it takes, or has the qualifications to come see me at stuntwars--where it is an open competition. the riders were chosen out of many, many riders for a variety of reasons. some big names are not on there agian for a variety of reasons. Darius for ex, couldnt make it cuz he couldnt travel to houston, back to cali, and then to florida for stuntwars---it didnt make sense to do so.
like i've said a thousand times already....support the event regardless of the fact that WE ALL are bummed that we call cant ride or at least try to qualify and ride...
this impacts YOU despite the fact that you think it does not.
open your effing eyes people...if you stand for nothing now, you'll settle for nothing later.
12-13-2004, 10:42 AM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
and another thing for all you doubters and haters:
what have YOU done to push this sport forward?
have you attended or competed in past XSBA events? (i dont wanna get into the many reasons for the demise of the XSBA's national championship, but a lot of it was due to 5 riders showing up at the events)
one more XSBA thing: anyone notice how much THEW or DAN JACKSON have benefitted from being NATIONAL CHAMPS??? ask them. i see thew on the back cover of SuperStreetbike every issue. this is the right way to push the sport forward.
do you think we are going to march forward by doing the same events that were held 4 or 5 years ago? all this individual BS needs to stop and we need to work together as one.
THE PRIMARY REASON WE ARE OVERLOOKED IS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ORGANIZATION OR COMMITMENT TO EACH OTHER TO PROGRESS THIS SPORT.
when we are organized and have a sanctioning body, then we will have more appeal to corporate sponsors. how are we gonna get in the x games when we dont even have set rules for our comps now???
i'm done for this class perioed, feel free to add more....some discussion is better than no discussion.
what have YOU done to push this sport forward?
have you attended or competed in past XSBA events? (i dont wanna get into the many reasons for the demise of the XSBA's national championship, but a lot of it was due to 5 riders showing up at the events)
one more XSBA thing: anyone notice how much THEW or DAN JACKSON have benefitted from being NATIONAL CHAMPS??? ask them. i see thew on the back cover of SuperStreetbike every issue. this is the right way to push the sport forward.
do you think we are going to march forward by doing the same events that were held 4 or 5 years ago? all this individual BS needs to stop and we need to work together as one.
THE PRIMARY REASON WE ARE OVERLOOKED IS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ORGANIZATION OR COMMITMENT TO EACH OTHER TO PROGRESS THIS SPORT.
when we are organized and have a sanctioning body, then we will have more appeal to corporate sponsors. how are we gonna get in the x games when we dont even have set rules for our comps now???
i'm done for this class perioed, feel free to add more....some discussion is better than no discussion.
12-13-2004, 12:11 PM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
Originally Posted by Lb3
I will be there and dragging everyone I can with me to show support. If there is anything I can do outside of attending name it. I want to see this take off as bad as anyone.
I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?
I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?
IM WORKING ON THIS AND NEED IMPUT FROM THOSE WHO PLAN ON COMING TO RIDE FROM OUT OF TOWN
PM ME IF YOU FEEL ITS NECESSARY
Im trying for fri nite to have a lot for stunters and sat nite official after party
at a major club dwntwn houstonhit me up with ideas fellas
12-13-2004, 12:29 PM
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what club and lot u lookin at jbad? i know the only ones that r down here suck...and the ones that are actually decent, have security guards at them that are total tools. hopefully we can get some written permission from someone that way if the haters do come, we wont have a problem with them, just some questions.
as for the event, im really hoping for a big turnout, im not much of a stunter...yet, well not on a big bike but i still stunt on my kfx. so im really just hoping everything goes smooth and without problems. itll definately be great to meet all u fellers:haha: and be on the lookout for me, a white kid who looks like chunk from the goonies, on a kfx 400. haha peace, and keep the info comin! almost less than a month away!
as for the event, im really hoping for a big turnout, im not much of a stunter...yet, well not on a big bike but i still stunt on my kfx. so im really just hoping everything goes smooth and without problems. itll definately be great to meet all u fellers:haha: and be on the lookout for me, a white kid who looks like chunk from the goonies, on a kfx 400. haha peace, and keep the info comin! almost less than a month away!
12-13-2004, 12:40 PM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
Originally Posted by TimsKFX400
what club and lot u lookin at jbad? i know the only ones that r down here suck...and the ones that are actually decent, have security guards at them that are total tools. hopefully we can get some written permission from someone that way if the haters do come, we wont have a problem with them, just some questions.
as for the event, im really hoping for a big turnout, im not much of a stunter...yet, well not on a big bike but i still stunt on my kfx. so im really just hoping everything goes smooth and without problems. itll definately be great to meet all u fellers:haha: and be on the lookout for me, a white kid who looks like chunk from the goonies, on a kfx 400. haha peace, and keep the info comin! almost less than a month away!
as for the event, im really hoping for a big turnout, im not much of a stunter...yet, well not on a big bike but i still stunt on my kfx. so im really just hoping everything goes smooth and without problems. itll definately be great to meet all u fellers:haha: and be on the lookout for me, a white kid who looks like chunk from the goonies, on a kfx 400. haha peace, and keep the info comin! almost less than a month away!
you got any conneks with a spot to ride for those who want?? if there is anyone who knows anyone, i'm sure i can find a nice ClearChannel letterheaded letter explaining what we are doing, etc...
we need a place to ride in or around Houston so that those not competing will have a place to ride at during the day...
12-13-2004, 12:59 PM
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Re: Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
Originally Posted by godslayer
Not much of a "competition" if there is no competition, is it?
XSBA tried their thing with the AMA circuit and now they are trying again with the MX circuit? Sorry, no disrespect to the "chosen" competitors, as they are all good at what they do, but lets just keep it straight here. If you are going to deny someone with the appropriate credentials, funding, and skills from entry into this event then you should take this event at face value. It is an exhibition NOT a competition.
XSBA tried their thing with the AMA circuit and now they are trying again with the MX circuit? Sorry, no disrespect to the "chosen" competitors, as they are all good at what they do, but lets just keep it straight here. If you are going to deny someone with the appropriate credentials, funding, and skills from entry into this event then you should take this event at face value. It is an exhibition NOT a competition.
Each rider will be scored, and presented with a trophy based on their scores. They will be listed in the order of their finish on all related media source materials, etc. If you and your friend race to the end of the block, and your buddy gets their first... did you still lose? Did he still win. Was it a competition or an exhibition. What if you were paid for your efforts?
Don't just try to blast the event... You will lose that battle too.
