seen just as many f4i frames cracked as i have seen kawis ...

 

i call bs...

 

no bs

 

and way more 900rr broken frames than f4i's and 636's combined

 

Im with bigkapp on that. Ive personally never seen either cracked except for mine but I hear a ton more stories about Kawi frames cracking. Ive never heard anyone else say they've cracked their f4i frame

 

Suzuki takes the cake on this one. Ive personally seen a shitload of cracked suzukis but like I said - my F4i is the only one Ive seen cracked and the only one Ive heard of being cracked in my circle of people that I ride with and Ive seen a ton of posts on here about people cracking their Kawi frames. Actually come to think of it Alie said that she knows someone who cracked an F4i frame but thats it.

 

the same thing that breaks kawi frames brakes honda frames , loose motor mounts ....

gsxr frames on the other hand break from riding them ...lol

 

i cracked my F4i frame but not at the motor mounts it was up by the neck of the bike right at the weld. practicing Os and landing sideways a 1000 times was most likely the cause. Not to put a cheesy plug but the cage you use is also a direct reason y frames break as well.

 

I cracked mine 3 times

 

ducati race bikes were steel tube up to a few years ago. steel is easier to repair . the amount of aluminum needed to be as strong as steel will actually be heavy as steel . when is the last time you have seen a roll cage or dune buggy made from aluminum. steel is cheaper

 

steel is the way to go its cheeper and easy to modify. say you get one of these stunt frames and yard sale the **** into a curb its gona bend or crack. if its made of steel it can be bent back and or welded with ease with no worries of breaking again. i think the idea is stout and worth a shot but it is the stunt comunity and wer all broke so 1500 to 2000 is gona have to be the range of the price to make any sales. O and title is a must

 

someone make some gussets we can weld onto 636 frames to brace 'em.

 

i got my cracled f4 frame in my garage. Ill take a pic after poker lol
Kawis and hondas both have **** frames. And lets not even start on shitzuki

 

+1 on that...i snapped a 06-07 gsxr frame at the front welds from just wheelieing it

 

stunters are not going to pay 3gs for a frame. they have enough trouble paying 300 for a good cage. you'd be better off having this guy modify the frame by adding gussets or bridges, etc.

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every braced frame i ever seen cracked right by one of the new welds ...

 

yup

 

Well I guess I stand corrected. Prior to this thread I never seen a thread on here where someone said they cracked their F4i frame. I do see a lot of Kawi owners saying they cracked their frames. Oh well. I still believe that F4i's frames are stronger than Kawi's but I guess it's like OMR said - loose motor mounts equate to cracked frames.

 

would one of these examples happen to be the weld at the neck of the frame?

I have a 06 gsxr I stunt and so far have not had any problems and have had some pretty hard drops with it...maybe I'm lucky an got one that was properly welded buuuut I wouldnt mind some bracing at the neck weld just incase...unless it's just gunna crack anyways . I've had an f4i to learn on and it WAS very easy to work with but the gsxr is much more unique an so much better looking of a bike. Warren James stunts the **** outta one, so does Scotty, and a few others. I don't worry bout my subframe so much because I don't run a bar, just the stock tail plastic so I just let that scrape and bend all day lol...doesn't look pretty but **** it.

 

an example is any where on a gsxr....lol i seen a kid around here get in a wreck. Forks didnt bend but destroyed the plastics broke the upper yada yada. The frame just snapped in clean right through the weld. Ive heard of a motor dropping straight to the ground on one to. Guessing the frame cracked on the inside and dude didnt see it? But not only did he buy a frame had to get another motor, header, and so on....