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-SKETCHY- 07-13-2008 09:47 PM

05-06 636 dislikes?
 
I am thinking of ditching my F4I & getting a kawi again. I have had 2 03 636's but I want to try out the 05-06.
I want to know the downsides of this bike for stunting. I already know the sub is weak but I'm not a big scraper anyways.
so let's hear it, I wanna know real downsides to this year model to help me decide.

Danger_Dave 07-13-2008 09:50 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
never rocked a 636. but i probly wouldnt want to. i never have liked kawasaki or yamaha. just suzuki and honda.

Standupnfall 07-13-2008 09:56 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
Never really stunted one but rode many when I worked at a shop.

Power is incredible
Front end awesome
Rear pegs are super high and uncomfortable and so are the front pegs
They look killer too :apimp

nags 07-13-2008 10:04 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
I hate how far the upper is from you when you're sitting on it. Feels like it's a mile away

-SKETCHY- 07-13-2008 10:05 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
I have rode many at work also but I wanna know dislikes for one being stunted

-SKETCHY- 07-13-2008 10:08 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=nags;3393450]I hate how far the upper is from you when you're sitting on it. Feels like it's a mile away[/QUOTE]

good observation. I noticed that also

Standupnfall 07-13-2008 10:09 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[quote=-SKETCHY-;3393451]I have rode many at work also but I wanna know dislikes for one being stunted[/quote]


Figured Id just throw those super obvious points out there for ya :cheers

JAYS-ON-ONE 07-14-2008 12:04 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
i rock the 06 636 and love everything about it but the tank being half plastic it sucks for denting. other that that the bike is the perfect stunting machine.

JEFF4EZ 07-14-2008 12:14 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
I recently had to sell my f4i due to the fact that I was broke as fuck but luckily for me my wifey has an 05 636 that we share now. At first it was weird because it was so much different than the f4ez but now that I have been on it for a few months it is great. I've heard that the subframe is weak but I haven't had any problems. I just scrape the stock pipe but I'm not into scraping too much anyway. The rearsets are garbage but since I put a cage on it I haven't had anymore trouble with those. It's deffinately my favorite bike to stunt on.

Tony L 07-14-2008 12:32 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
I didn't like how high i sat on the tank and the fact that you couldn't really combo in and out of it that easy, subframes are hella junk but the bikes have a great motor on them so its the good with the bad. The front ends are money as well. its kinda a 50/50 oh and if your running it ff its HUGE the 03-04 is more steam line.

blaquenova 07-14-2008 12:32 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
The rear sets suck, i snapped one comin down from a stoppie. Definately need to get the kleen air mod if not its a smoke machine, (perfect for gettin away from the police :LOL). Other than that i love mine. Awesome for stoppies, and pulls hella good idle :YEAH

JEFF4EZ 07-14-2008 12:48 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[quote=blaquenova;3393647]The rear sets suck, i snapped one comin down from a stoppie. Definately need to get the kleen air mod if not its a smoke machine, (perfect for gettin away from the police :LOL). Other than that i love mine. Awesome for stoppies, and pulls hella good idle :YEAH[/quote]
Or it gives them a trail to follow. I only had that happen once when I was practicing stalls.

100%_sukkafree 07-14-2008 01:26 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=nags;3393450]I hate how far the upper is from you when you're sitting on it. Feels like it's a mile away[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=-SKETCHY-;3393454]good observation. I noticed that also[/QUOTE]

thats not good .....andy you know with that hand problem you got.:LOL .:shruggs ya might better keep tha f4ez:2cents

blaquenova 07-14-2008 01:37 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[quote=JEFF4EZ;3393665]Or it gives them a trail to follow. I only had that happen once when I was practicing stalls.[/quote]





:LOL yea i guess ur right about the trail, yea they say once u do the Kleen air mod, the oil has to be perfect cant overfill or u still will get smoke.

-SKETCHY- 07-14-2008 08:09 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=Tony L;3393645]I didn't like how high i sat on the tank and the fact that you couldn't really combo in and out of it that easy, subframes are hella junk but the bikes have a great motor on them so its the good with the bad. The front ends are money as well. its kinda a 50/50 oh and if your running it ff its HUGE the 03-04 is more steam line.[/QUOTE]

it looked like it would be hard to pull in & out on it. I would def have to run mx bars.

C.J., the only combos you know about are the ones you stole from Crash Nash :LOL

Nellie636 07-14-2008 10:21 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
+1 on the mx bars, or aftermarket clip ons with them switched to over triple. i still have mine underneath and hate it. as far as durability goes the motor is a hog

-SKETCHY- 07-14-2008 10:37 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=Nellie636;3394125]as far as durability goes the motor is a hog[/QUOTE]

is that good or bad :LOL

100%_sukkafree 07-14-2008 10:56 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=-SKETCHY-;3394052]it looked like it would be hard to pull in & out on it. I would def have to run mx bars.

C.J., the only combos you know about are the ones you stole from Crash Nash :LOL[/QUOTE]

hey I didnt steal the combos ,:LOL he taught them to me:LOL :YEAH

sdfkillz 07-14-2008 11:09 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
its an amaing bike, and really all in how you set it up. the tank dents are great cuz you can do a nice clean dent without even having to repaint or bondo and it doesnt kill your gas carrying capacity like on regular tanks. ive never heard of anyone complain bout the rearset position before, feels just fine to me. to stop the front rearsets from breaking just cut the peg down like 1/4 inch and take the peg "feeler" out and you will never break them. you have to be carefull with shifting on these bikes cuz they are prone to tranny problems as the gears are NOT undercut and dont shift as smooth as the 03/04 or any other bike that ive been on. pull throughs are challenging on this bike but can be easily remedied by a hohey tripple or mx bars if u dont care what your bike looks like haha. if you dont run plastics you might have to reinforce the radiator mounts, with plastics ive never had a problem on either of mine. plastic ram air is prone to break if you rat trap alot. tail light will out for sure if u dont glue that thing in there. omr subcage will get rid of the weak ass rearsets in the back. its a good solid bike if you take care of it and do what should be done, and absolutely the smoothest power delivery ive ever felt on a bike, never dull but no suprises.

-SKETCHY- 07-14-2008 11:21 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=sdfkillz;3394189]its an amaing bike, and really all in how you set it up. the tank dents are great cuz you can do a nice clean dent without even having to repaint or bondo and it doesnt kill your gas carrying capacity like on regular tanks. ive never heard of anyone complain bout the rearset position before, feels just fine to me. to stop the front rearsets from breaking just cut the peg down like 1/4 inch and take the peg "feeler" out and you will never break them. you have to be carefull with shifting on these bikes cuz they are prone to tranny problems as the gears are NOT undercut and dont shift as smooth as the 03/04 or any other bike that ive been on. pull throughs are challenging on this bike but can be easily remedied by a hohey tripple or mx bars if u dont care what your bike looks like haha. if you dont run plastics you might have to reinforce the radiator mounts, with plastics ive never had a problem on either of mine. plastic ram air is prone to break if you rat trap alot. tail light will out for sure if u dont glue that thing in there. omr subcage will get rid of the weak ass rearsets in the back. its a good solid bike if you take care of it and do what should be done, and absolutely the smoothest power delivery ive ever felt on a bike, never dull but no suprises.[/QUOTE]

Thanks buddy:cheers I'm going to start looking for one. I want something minty this time since my skillz are sharper:LOL

DURTY 07-14-2008 11:25 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
andy seriously, DONT DO IT!!!!






get a 03-04 instead!!!!! much better feel and everything........trust me u WILL regret it!!!!!!

-SKETCHY- 07-14-2008 11:40 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
I have had 2 03's. Just want something different.

DURTY 07-14-2008 12:04 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=-SKETCHY-;3394239]I have had 2 03's. Just want something different.[/QUOTE]

ya i hear wat ur saying bro....but i have been were ur at about "just wanting something new" big mistake......i went from the 07 zx6r, traded it for an 05 had major wiring problems....traded it and went back to the 04 and that was the biggest waste of $$$$ and time ever!!!! the 05 is ok but the 04 blows it outta the water over alll!!!!!! im really happy with the 04!!!!! :hello




but hey if u have the extra money to blow.......get an 05 for a bit till u realise u should have listened to DURTY!!! :YEAH :cheers


good luck with the 05 man great for stoppies and the 07 is even better for stoppies, maybe u should get the 08 :YEAH :LOL :LOL

VerticalLimits 07-14-2008 12:10 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
i went from the 30-04 to 05-06 and i love mine other than the normal stuff that breaks ( rearsets , stock fairing stay , ect. ) the bike is great much smoother and alot better for stoppies , both has their pros and cons but overall i like the 05-06 better . and you can pull through just fine with full fairing and aftermarket triple with clip-ons on top , you can resolve the tank issue with a lil metal fab work and i never had a problem with the kleen air mod , i never did one and i stall it and do merk stuff and mines never smoked so.....

JEFF4EZ 07-14-2008 12:11 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[quote=-SKETCHY-;3394052]it looked like it would be hard to pull in & out on it. I would def have to run mx bars.

[/quote]
Yeah going from the f4i with db bars to stock clip ons on the 05 636 that was one thing i lost was being able to pull through but with the clip ons above the triple and flipped and after doing some stretching I'm starting to get it back. DB bars would deffinately make it easier though.
[quote=sdfkillz;3394189]its an amaing bike, and really all in how you set it up. the tank dents are great cuz you can do a nice clean dent without even having to repaint or bondo and it doesnt kill your gas carrying capacity like on regular tanks. ive never heard of anyone complain bout the rearset position before, feels just fine to me. to stop the front rearsets from breaking just cut the peg down like 1/4 inch and take the peg "feeler" out and you will never break them. you have to be carefull with shifting on these bikes cuz they are prone to tranny problems as the gears are NOT undercut and dont shift as smooth as the 03/04 or any other bike that ive been on. pull throughs are challenging on this bike but can be easily remedied by a hohey tripple or mx bars if u dont care what your bike looks like haha. if you dont run plastics you might have to reinforce the radiator mounts, with plastics ive never had a problem on either of mine. plastic ram air is prone to break if you rat trap alot. tail light will out for sure if u dont glue that thing in there. omr subcage will get rid of the weak ass rearsets in the back. its a good solid bike if you take care of it and do what should be done, and absolutely the smoothest power delivery ive ever felt on a bike, never dull but no suprises.[/quote]
i just noticed my taillight was starting to hang down about a 1/4 inch. That's some good info that you posted up though. thanks.

E-BRAKE 07-14-2008 12:12 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[quote=VerticalLimits;3394305]i went from the 30-04 to 05-06 and i love mine other than the normal stuff that breaks ( rearsets , stock fairing stay , ect. ) the bike is great much smoother and alot better for stoppies , both has their pros and cons but overall i like the 05-06 better . and you can pull through just fine with full fairing and aftermarket triple with clip-ons on top , you can resolve the tank issue with a lil metal fab work and i never had a problem with the kleen air mod , i never did one and i stall it and do merk stuff and mines never smoked so.....[/quote]


sorry this post was mine ...was still on chucks acc....

JEFF4EZ 07-14-2008 12:13 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[quote=VerticalLimits;3394305]i went from the 30-04 to 05-06 and i love mine other than the normal stuff that breaks ( rearsets , stock fairing stay , ect. ) the bike is great much smoother and alot better for stoppies , both has their pros and cons but overall i like the 05-06 better . and you can pull through just fine with full fairing and aftermarket triple with clip-ons on top , you can resolve the tank issue with a lil metal fab work and i never had a problem with the kleen air mod , i never did one and i stall it and do merk stuff and mines never smoked so.....[/quote]
+1 I didn't do the Kleen air mod either but I overfilled my oil and was working on stalls and it started smoking but just that one time. I've done stalls and merk stuff since than as well with no problems.

Suicidal Antics 07-14-2008 12:20 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
tail is absolutely sick for SS..... compared to my 03, the 05/06 tail has tons of foot room. never gonna slide out of that thing

-SKETCHY- 07-14-2008 12:20 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
i will probably get whatever i can get the better deal on between the 03-04 or 05-06. I got a 07 front end lined up already :YEAH

E-BRAKE 07-14-2008 12:23 PM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[quote=JEFF4EZ;3394313]+1 I didn't do the Kleen air mod either but I overfilled my oil and was working on stalls and it started smoking but just that one time. I've done stalls and merk stuff since than as well with no problems.[/quote]


yep did that once too....:LOL

Beto 07-15-2008 10:59 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
can the bike take coasters, or is that just asking for trouble on the motor?

JohnnyP 07-15-2008 11:02 AM

Re: 05-06 636 dislikes?
 
[QUOTE=nags;3393450]I hate how far the upper is from you when you're sitting on it. Feels like it's a mile away[/QUOTE]

Are you kiddin me! Thats one of the best things about the ZX6R's:LOL

Hondas suck for handle bar clearance, and you cant do much turning and/or flipping without having to chop your upper 12". Ive turned and flipped stock clipons on the 03/04, 05/06 and the 07/08 without even having to cut or trim anything....:YEAH


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