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glingglo 10-28-2007 10:02 AM

The Great Big Small debate
 
I am 6feet 2" and 203lbs I practice alot and i am just about doing ten combos in a straight line now and learnin pull troughs and merc to 50/50 etc... i just find it sooo hard. Also SS O combos i can do em but i am exhausted after only a few mins and have to do all the circles fast, cant seem to just idle it because the bike goes everywhere...... have been observing many different styles of riding lately from Teach and Flores to the A-Z crew and the Euro's too...

It seems to me personally that any type of combo is much harder when you are a larger man, as the weight tranference is greater which inturn upsets the the balance of the bike... I know a lot of the more slight and short riders will disagree because they want to fight their corner, but think how many clips have you seen with big big guys busting scary gary type shiot as opposed to wafer thin guys who can jump around the bike without hardly a movement!

So the question is who is best Big guys that can almost do it all and have amazing skills like Bill D or french guy Marseilles? or Darius, Jonnie do etc

My fav has to be E-dub....

Please lets here everyside of it big and small!!!!

RocSteady 10-28-2007 10:17 AM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
Are we talking about frame size or just being out of shape? If someones outta shape it doesnt matter how tall they are, theyre gonna have a difficult time stunting. E-dub is in shape, darius is in shape...

glingglo 10-28-2007 10:20 AM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
no im talking natural build... im all muscle these days but i have big bones and im tall so there is no chance of me ever lookin like edub or scary gary or darius see... what i mean is some big guys are in shape and love to stunt pro but i think its hrader to make it work when you are naturally heavy

RocSteady 10-28-2007 10:31 AM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
I know people obviously have different skeletal shapes ( thats why there are tall/short humans ) but i dont think that effects how you look on the outside. You really dont think you could ever look like edub? Hes not that muscular so if you lost some weight you probably would, darius has more meat on him but he is really cut. My conclusion is this

Doesnt matter how tall someone is, if they are in REALLY good shape, then they could stunt just as well as the other guy. It might not be as easy because of the sport, think about it, a chimpanzee is more acrobatic then a gorilla, but that doesnt mean the gorilla cant train himself to flip around :LOL

glingglo 10-28-2007 10:46 AM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
ha ha you just coined my new team name!!!! "Flipped Gorrila" he he

Matt H 10-28-2007 12:51 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
big scott

blackdog 10-28-2007 12:56 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
[quote=glingglo;2997214]I am 6feet 2" and 203lbs I practice alot and i am just about doing ten combos in a straight line now and learnin pull troughs and merc to 50/50 etc... i just find it sooo hard. Also SS O combos i can do em but i am exhausted after only a few mins and have to do all the circles fast, cant seem to just idle it because the bike goes everywhere...... have been observing many different styles of riding lately from Teach and Flores to the A-Z crew and the Euro's too...

It seems to me personally that any type of combo is much harder when you are a larger man, as the weight tranference is greater which inturn upsets the the balance of the bike... I know a lot of the more slight and short riders will disagree because they want to fight their corner, but think how many clips have you seen with big big guys busting scary gary type shiot as opposed to wafer thin guys who can jump around the bike without hardly a movement!



So the question is who is best Big guys that can almost do it all and have amazing skills like Bill D or french guy Marseilles? or Darius, Jonnie do etc

My fav has to be E-dub....

Please lets here everyside of it big and small!!!![/quote]



I feel you, i'm 6'4" 195lb and yes a lot of tricks are harder, or not possible for a big guy. It can be frustrating, but it just makes you have to be that much better to learn some of the "small man" tricks.

On the other hand being big can be an advantage, though i don't feel it out weighs being smaller. There are a handful of tricksthat are easier for big guys. Also being big helps in how we can throw the bike around, or use our size to make dropping your bike not so harsh. There is a guy on here, MIKEONBIKE, he tears it up. Sounds like your agile also to be able to merc step into 50-50. Maybe their should be weight classes at stunt events. LOL Really, it's just like a lot of other sports, there is going to be an ideal body type for each.

blackdog 10-28-2007 12:59 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
[quote=Matt H;2997293]big scott[/quote]


Haven't seen him but from what i hear is an excellent rider. Have to add Joe as mentioned before.

RocSteady 10-28-2007 01:02 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
Who is big scott?

blackdog 10-28-2007 01:06 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
guy in Texas, do a search you'll find him

Matt H 10-28-2007 01:10 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
big scott from teamstunters.com. hes like 6'7 or some shit, makes his bike look like a 125 dirt bike...

BeLLiSSimO1 10-28-2007 01:21 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
Everyone forget about mana? dude was like 6 foot 5
and moved around on that bike like it was nothin.

glingglo 10-28-2007 02:24 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
yep mana is like made of string or somethin... good point . i guess its just a matter of somethings are good small but i think you get extra props for being huge and bringing the danger!

But who do you think actually looks the best in action? big or small?

glingglo 10-28-2007 02:28 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
this is me. not the best of what i got but it'll do.... oh and im big

[url]http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=19666956[/url]

BIG

Afflicted 10-28-2007 02:40 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
yeah you look pretty big

that dude colton from stuntbling is big like 6'5 , bigger then you, weight wise too, and he is really good

i haven seen him do pullthrouhgs or anything but yeah

RocSteady 10-28-2007 02:48 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
Your 203?! goddamn you dont look big at all haha props on the vid nice control

What kinda firblade did you have?

Azuras 10-28-2007 04:08 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
hahaha, the secret to ALL success is..... WILLPOWER!
if you think you can succeed then it can be done, if you want to do it then it has to be done, if you know you have it in you then its only a matter of time

size, age, and weight have no bearing on abilty if you have the willpower

Me, im 6'4" 300lbs (shrinking to 240. 220 at lowest due to my lean body mass) and all that means is when im up to do SS's im just higher off the ground, if i fall i will hit harder. but i have had 4 decent accidents and willpower has always put me back on the bike for the love of riding.


everyone has willpower, learn to use yours



[Edit]
note, in "and all that means is when im up to do SS's im just higher off the ground" the key word in this sentence is WHEN, yes i know i am stil a squid and unable to do them at the moment but the context of the sentence is still true, if i were to do a SS i would in fact be higher off the ground
edited to save flames
[/Edit]

old man roger 10-28-2007 04:16 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
seeing blackdog effortlessly jump to flamingo froggy and clutch it up from the side makes me wish i was taller.....lol

mack36148 10-28-2007 04:31 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
i know what you mean..i'm 6'4 210lbs
just takes a little extra practice

blackdog 10-28-2007 04:49 PM

Re: The Great Big Small debate
 
[quote=old man roger;2997450]seeing blackdog effortlessly jump to flamingo froggy and clutch it up from the side makes me wish i was taller.....lol[/quote]


definitely helps to be tall for those tricks! and i'll take every advantage i can get!


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