Houston XSBA at Reliant Stadium: Who's gonna be there and what do you think??
 

read this thread and either post there or post in this thread....

any and all suggestions and/or thoughts welcome!!

[url]https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103876[/url]

lets discuss this stunt event and its possible ramifications here. lets also discuss how we can get stunts outside of this venue. :2cents

we should also discuss the stunts that may be taking place at this venue. :2cents

to make it real simple: lets discuss this and create a buzz about this event so that whoever it is that is watching us sees thousands of sportbikes outside in the parking lot for this event...this is a great opportunity!

:fiddy

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u figured it out...u dont give up easy...that is great...
back on subject...

i had one Q: the mini event..
who is that open to, is it just circle racing on concrete or is it a real moto race with dirt? ive done a clear channel event....not what i expected...they told us we where there to stunt...and it turned into a race..this time i know its a race...just wanted to know if its dirt, motard or some circle race...

i could kill to birds with one stone...watch the events and ride in it...

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My feelings?

Well ........ its a long time coming for every rider on that list. Its even a longer time coming for some riders not on that list. Maybe just maybe, this event will finally weed out the "wannabe's" that try to make a quick buck with pathetic excuses for competitions and or "show quality" performances. An event like this is needed for a lot of reasons besides just showcasing what the more elite members of the community have to offer. An event like this also will possibly showcase what a real professionally run competition and or series style event can and should be run. Maybe just maybe this will put an end to the circus like competitions that promoters put on day in and day out as a way to fleece the stunt community of not only its hard earned cash but also of the spirit and positive attitude some of these riders had 3 years ago. Its possible that an event like this could be just the "refreshing drink" the morale of some of these riders (and supporters like Thomas and Ken) need to remind themselves why they work so hard to try and get this "sport" to take off so that the next generation might just break even or even make a buck or two. See thats the rub. Whereas a lot of guys say things like "I put my heart and soul into this sport, all for nothing. To get scammed by a shady promoter. To get screwed at a bullshit unfair competition. To get f*@*#d by awfully low payouts.", the guys on that list and the guys who made it possible to have that list in the first place are questioning a lot more than those three things. What is the biggest thing they worry about? Probably if they are gonna put all their heart and soul into something in this sport again, and get screwed by their fellow riders.

If u do nothing else, support this event and these guys. Don't bitch because you are not on the list. Don't talk about how much this sucks because the sport might not stay underground. Don't bash the people who got the guys on the list a chance to compete because its an event run by a big business. Support it because its stunt riding. The sport u all supposedly care about. The sport that you all supposedly live and breathe for. Even if u cant make it to the event. Tell someone about it. Print out a copy of the info and get it posted in your local bike shop. Tell a friend about it. Do something, even if its as little as sending an e-mail to the powers that be that allowed this to happen. Or a pm to Thomas and Ken telling them thanks for their effort, or one of the guys on the list saying good luck. Shit post here supporting it so the thread lives a little while longer and more people are made aware!

Rant off!

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i think that the locals are gonna have to try and get some good riding spots for outside the location. That way it will attract more stunters to go. I think if there isn't any spots to go hit up before and after the event, then less stunt riders will show up. :2cents

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We'll be there supporting the event and the sport as we've done for the entire time we've been a team. I know a lot of people(myself included) are disappointed about it not being a competition but there will be other opportunities (that is what this events is all about) for us. Congratulations to Ken and Thomas on getting this event together to showcase all the riders involved skills.

Keith "Paw Paw" Buesing

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I will be there and dragging everyone I can with me to show support. If there is anything I can do outside of attending name it. I want to see this take off as bad as anyone.

I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?

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gonna be there in support

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Will also be their supporting...good job guys

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This event is sure to be a success with people like Ken and Thomas putting it together. The effort that they continuously put forth with little to no recognition or thanks is amazing! They have assembled an amazing group of riders whom I am sure will more than entertain the crowd!

Teach also needs alot of credit for being in this from the beginning and always pushing to make this more proffessional no matter how many times he got ripped off at competitions! (and for getting me into this sport)

So, if you are within a reasonable driving distance.....please show your support!

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if im lucky i can go and stand next to paw paw or big balla maybe if i play my cards right i can ride with someone :hello :laughing

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[QUOTE=Lb3]I will be there and dragging everyone I can with me to show support. If there is anything I can do outside of attending name it. I want to see this take off as bad as anyone.

I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?[/QUOTE]


YES!!! we DEFINITELY need secure parking. houston is HORRIBLE, i'd be scared shitless of leaving my bike in a parking lot in that area. that is the only thing that concerns me about riding down to houston from fort worth, but if nothing else i guess i can just ride down with the group and then leave my bike at my parents house in the woodlands and cage it. *shrugs*

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It'd be sweet to go and give support, just might go!!!

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I just hope to do my part in helping to pave the way for the future of this sport.

to me it is a sport.

it's fun, and i enjoy it more than anything, but it is also a sport and i am anxious for the day to come when it is finally reconized as such...

regardless of any outcome of the event i can assure you, that i aim to have a great time.

-kane

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Not much of a "competition" if there is no competition, is it? :shruggs

XSBA tried their thing with the AMA circuit and now they are trying again with the MX circuit? Sorry, no disrespect to the "chosen" competitors, as they are all good at what they do, but lets just keep it straight here. If you are going to deny someone with the appropriate credentials, funding, and skills from entry into this event then you should take this event at face value. It is an exhibition NOT a competition. :2cents

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xsba has NEVER tried their thing with AMA...XSBA was Formula USA sanctioned for 3 years and was about as successful as they could be considering a few facts:

1. clear channel did not support this much despite exponentially increasing hits on the xsba website, etc, during the course of its existence.

2. chump riders being all talk and no show, not supporting the xsba events despite the fact that it was the only recognized and sanctioned championship series competition....also despite the fact that the events were held in a wide array of locations...also despite the fact that these events were held at motorcycle races-where there were tons of industry reps....

the failure of the XSBA rests soley upon those riders who did not support it.



correct me if i am wrong, but are the X Games open to everyone?? What about FMX? can you just show up to fmx with your dirtbike and ride? i believe the answer is no.

so...this is not an 'open' competition, just like fmx is not an 'open' competition; that does not mean it is not a competition--i can guarantee i am treating it like a comp and everyone else is riding for 2nd place! lol

for real though...this is hopefully the beginning of something much larger. open competition was desired, but time constraints and space constraints did not allow it. in the future there will be a qualifying procedure...whether the weekend of the event or through prior events.

as as far as the competition, i'll let my ego speak and tell anyone who thinks they got what it takes, or has the qualifications to come see me at stuntwars--where it is an open competition. the riders were chosen out of many, many riders for a variety of reasons. some big names are not on there agian for a variety of reasons. Darius for ex, couldnt make it cuz he couldnt travel to houston, back to cali, and then to florida for stuntwars---it didnt make sense to do so.

like i've said a thousand times already....support the event regardless of the fact that WE ALL are bummed that we call cant ride or at least try to qualify and ride...

this impacts YOU despite the fact that you think it does not.

open your effing eyes people...if you stand for nothing now, you'll settle for nothing later.

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and another thing for all you doubters and haters:

what have YOU done to push this sport forward?

have you attended or competed in past XSBA events? (i dont wanna get into the many reasons for the demise of the XSBA's national championship, but a lot of it was due to 5 riders showing up at the events)

one more XSBA thing: anyone notice how much THEW or DAN JACKSON have benefitted from being NATIONAL CHAMPS??? ask them. i see thew on the back cover of SuperStreetbike every issue. this is the right way to push the sport forward.

do you think we are going to march forward by doing the same events that were held 4 or 5 years ago? all this individual BS needs to stop and we need to work together as one.

THE PRIMARY REASON WE ARE OVERLOOKED IS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ORGANIZATION OR COMMITMENT TO EACH OTHER TO PROGRESS THIS SPORT.

when we are organized and have a sanctioning body, then we will have more appeal to corporate sponsors. how are we gonna get in the x games when we dont even have set rules for our comps now???

i'm done for this class perioed, feel free to add more....some discussion is better than no discussion.

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[QUOTE=Lb3]I will be there and dragging everyone I can with me to show support. If there is anything I can do outside of attending name it. I want to see this take off as bad as anyone.

I have one suggestion. Houston is ghetto. Can we get some secured parking at the event for people partaking in the group ride to the event (if that happens)?[/QUOTE]



IM WORKING ON THIS AND NEED IMPUT FROM THOSE WHO PLAN ON COMING TO RIDE FROM OUT OF TOWN

PM ME IF YOU FEEL ITS NECESSARY

Im trying for fri nite to have a lot for stunters and sat nite official after party :LOL at a major club dwntwn houston

hit me up with ideas fellas

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what club and lot u lookin at jbad? i know the only ones that r down here suck...and the ones that are actually decent, have security guards at them that are total tools. hopefully we can get some written permission from someone that way if the haters do come, we wont have a problem with them, just some questions.
as for the event, im really hoping for a big turnout, im not much of a stunter...yet, well not on a big bike but i still stunt on my kfx. so im really just hoping everything goes smooth and without problems. itll definately be great to meet all u fellers:haha: and be on the lookout for me, a white kid who looks like chunk from the goonies, on a kfx 400. haha peace, and keep the info comin! almost less than a month away! :hello

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[QUOTE=TimsKFX400]what club and lot u lookin at jbad? i know the only ones that r down here suck...and the ones that are actually decent, have security guards at them that are total tools. hopefully we can get some written permission from someone that way if the haters do come, we wont have a problem with them, just some questions.
as for the event, im really hoping for a big turnout, im not much of a stunter...yet, well not on a big bike but i still stunt on my kfx. so im really just hoping everything goes smooth and without problems. itll definately be great to meet all u fellers:haha: and be on the lookout for me, a white kid who looks like chunk from the goonies, on a kfx 400. haha peace, and keep the info comin! almost less than a month away! :hello[/QUOTE]


you got any conneks with a spot to ride for those who want?? if there is anyone who knows anyone, i'm sure i can find a nice ClearChannel letterheaded letter explaining what we are doing, etc...

we need a place to ride in or around Houston so that those not competing will have a place to ride at during the day...

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[QUOTE=godslayer]Not much of a "competition" if there is no competition, is it? :shruggs

XSBA tried their thing with the AMA circuit and now they are trying again with the MX circuit? Sorry, no disrespect to the "chosen" competitors, as they are all good at what they do, but lets just keep it straight here. If you are going to deny someone with the appropriate credentials, funding, and skills from entry into this event then you should take this event at face value. It is an exhibition NOT a competition. :2cents[/QUOTE]

Your data is not correct. XSBA has never been affiliated with the AMA in any way. We did book XSBA riders to perform at specific AMA Superbike races however. But never presented it as a competition, nor was the XSBA officially affiliated with the event. I just helped the riders make the right contacts at the venue, and helped negotiate their performance fees.

Each rider will be scored, and presented with a trophy based on their scores. They will be listed in the order of their finish on all related media source materials, etc. If you and your friend race to the end of the block, and your buddy gets their first... did you still lose? Did he still win. Was it a competition or an exhibition. What if you were paid for your efforts?

Don't just try to blast the event... You will lose that battle too.

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[QUOTE=TEACH C6]you got any conneks with a spot to ride for those who want?? if there is anyone who knows anyone, i'm sure i can find a nice ClearChannel letterheaded letter explaining what we are doing, etc...

we need a place to ride in or around Houston so that those not competing will have a place to ride at during the day...[/QUOTE]

Clear Channel is already organizing a few promotional autograph sessions for the riders on Friday night, along with Miller Light. Maybe at "Outbacker's Pub" in Houston? Still working on it. There is a patio for autographs, and a decent parking lot for the riders to put on exhibitions all night.

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we want to try and find a place to ride for those NOT competing...make the event a little more enjoyable for those who are making the trip....

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Congrats to all that were invited! You have all put in your work and are getting recognition! Best of luck to all involved!!

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In case anyone cares or doubts...if this event goes well then we will be invited to a few similar events like this throughout the US next year

[url]www.dewactionsportstour.com[/url]

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congrats to the people who were invited and did all the hard work, should set the stunt scene STRAIGHT!

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[QUOTE=TEACH C6]you got any conneks with a spot to ride for those who want?? if there is anyone who knows anyone, i'm sure i can find a nice ClearChannel letterheaded letter explaining what we are doing, etc...

we need a place to ride in or around Houston so that those not competing will have a place to ride at during the day...[/QUOTE]


Teach, as I have said, Im working on all of this and check your phone VM
I left you a message this morning
DSOG thomas call me again I need to know how many big wigs will need VIP and such for the afterparty (KEN Abbot and such)

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[QUOTE=godslayer]Not much of a "competition" if there is no competition, is it? :shruggs

XSBA tried their thing with the AMA circuit and now they are trying again with the MX circuit? Sorry, no disrespect to the "chosen" competitors, as they are all good at what they do, but lets just keep it straight here. If you are going to deny someone with the appropriate credentials, funding, and skills from entry into this event then you should take this event at face value. It is an exhibition NOT a competition. :2cents[/QUOTE]



i will refrain from commenting on your inability to see the bigger picture here :banghead

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Demo or Comp? Who cares. The riders will compete, therefore it is a competition.

The X Games and Gravity Games are both by invitation only. And to get an invitation, you have to do well at other qualifier events. In Sportbike Stunt Riding (SSR for short) there is no qualifier events and no functional sanctioning body. So how do you chose? I think the list was formed because riders were fully evaluated, and I think the event will be a good one because I know there was some hard work put into it already.

As far as the audience and pushing SSR to a new level, if the powers that be are in attendance and they like what they see..... :YEAH

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jbad there are a few industrials i still havent gone to check out .. around 610/288 area .. i was going to go this weekend but ended up practicing .. ill try and get out to those spot and check them out and take some pics and post em up

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remember not to bring a vid camera in the building for the event...
CC staff with cut ur head off...lol...they will take ur cam and ur tape
just a heads up...its there rights, not urs.

and im still wanting for a few questions to be answered.....
sorry im not bigtime... :twofinger

Rob

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[QUOTE=Ryan Cramer]i will refrain from commenting on your inability to see the bigger picture here :banghead[/QUOTE]

No bro, I see the big picture here...but by calling it a competition and then saying that there are only a few who will be allowed to compete is just a little strange in my thinking. XSBA has been tried before and it seemed to fail. Then when it failed I heard a lot of stunters talk bad about it(would you like the all-star list of names?) and how the new revolution was to be that little deal that Tim Barnes and Kyle Woods tried hyping up at the Biker Bash in Dallas last year. They got a little publicity in the rags (Super Street Bike?) and that was that..... :shruggs
Now the XSBA is trying another stab at it with slightly different affiliations and I hope to god it works. But like the first time around, the XSBA will not let everyone play, and if those that are invited to play the game decide it is too much work and give up on it I think we will see the same results. If those guys all stick to it and git'r'dun, then yes, many a door will open for everyone! :2cents

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good luck everyone,hope it works,just sucks that none of the rest of us could go and try hell it's on the way to stunt wars ,but maybe next time

just remember that your competing for a lot more than money :2cents

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the reason it is not an open competition is because I will not allow a hundred rookies to embarass me trying to qualify for a top 10 spot, we dont have the facilities, the time or the patience to deal with that

anyone see the schedule? its two 30 minute sessions

thats definately not time for rookies to play...

on top of all that it is in a small area inside the arena and it is polished concrete....if anyone wants to be pissed cuz they dont have a chance to "qualify" then be pissed at me....but you actually should be thanking me for not letting you waste your money cuz you probably wouldnt qualify anyways

do I need to remind anyone of the 20 riders who said they could do 800 ft plus coasters at stuntlife last year?? and only 5 broke the 800 foot mark

and the so called "failure" of the xsba in whatever sense you may put it just isnt true, when you have misguided VP's who tell the sales department to sell sponsorships for some bullshit ass flattrack events and tell them not to worry about selling sponsorships for FormulaUSA and XSBA the of course there isnt going to be money in the budget for events.....

The Dew Action Sports Tour has put up more purse money for this event than we ever had for any XSBA event,

either come and have fun,
support it on stuntlife,
or dont say anything at all


I am not sitting here saying that this event is the second coming and will gaurantee that we get in the X games....all i am saying is that I think its going to be a really fun event and I am proud to be a part of it....even though I know that gravity games representatives will be there and they will make the decision wether to include us in more events or not after that event.......I have learned to not expect anything....so with that being said I am going there to have fun with a great group of riders that I consider friends and rip shit up on the microphone so hard that the crowd is going to boo the FMX announcer when he gets back on the mic......whatever happens happens...we are gonna do our best regardless

so quit with the fukkin pussyaching

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Good luck on the event to all involved. Wish I could make it, but it is not in the budget right now.

Dav

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Nicely said thomas, nicely said. Congratulations to all of the riders choosen to ride in this. i am going to support this as much as possible. and possibly fly down to it to be a spectator. we'll see. but once again congratulations to everyone involved. and to all the haters keep hatin and bitchin about it on the sidelines. and if it fails because not enough people support it, blame yourselves, because without support this will go nowhere.

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I may have missed where who is judging the comp and desides who the top are to advance...is it the crowd or hand picked peolpe...if so who are they?

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please let them be handpicked. shit ill even volunteer lol damn. theres some stupid fkin people down here in houston. and a bunch of inbred redneck bastids who are even more stupid.

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Sh!t, i think if u get some H-Town underground artists to perform to draw a crowd who knows little about the sport, would have an excellent outcome..But I know little about these thangs, so don't mind me....But I do know Houston has a lot of up comming rappers that people from other states have no clue exist, so it would be good exposure for all... :2cents

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robbie,

still working on the info you need...bear with me.

fmx judges will be judging the sportbike freestyle...we already have a plan in place to educate them and whatnot-they will be observing our practices and we have a specific individual for them to use as a resource...no worries there.

as for the xsba thing: i'll leave that alone for now, i haven't the patience to explain it to everyone. anyone who bitched about the xsba never showed up to support it (save for the daytona event), and so their thoughts and opinions are worthless to me, and so are they. the PEOPLE behind the xsba are true to their intentions and only want the best for US....they have sacrificed time, money, and family lives to try and make this work for US. i would hope that we would support them in turn.

as far as thomas' comments, they are true. in the future, if this turns out positively for US, there WILL be a qualification procedure so that everyone has a chance to qualify-whether through same weekend quali's or through other event quali's or even by qualifiying through your results and reputation----in other words, there are people watching us and they know who is what and where. wanna have a chance to ride in something like this the next time it is around? show your support for the things we are trying to do and make a name for yourself by traveling and competing...just like anyone else.

robbie, your answers are soon. i got out on my fiddy track yesterday and the knee is fine: watch out motard races, i wanna bang bars!

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[QUOTE=TEACH C6]robbie,

still working on the info you need...bear with me.

fmx judges will be judging the sportbike freestyle...we already have a plan in place to educate them and whatnot-they will be observing our practices and we have a specific individual for them to use as a resource...no worries there![/QUOTE]

you're so on top of this, i hope everyone appreciates it, as silly as it sounds i got faith in you to make things happen in the future :cheers