coolguyintree

I recently ran into a guy who has a 04 f4i and he has no title due to the fact the last guy had a salvage title and sold the bike to him for a stunt bike and didnt include the salvaged title which made no sense to me? anyways I wasnt worried about it cause I was going to have the vin # on the frame ran by a police officer to make sure the bike wasn't hot before I purchased the bike. however the vin has been scratched off. In michigan or any state I believe it's illegal to even have a bike with the vin # scratched off. so I didnt buy the bike. I am not sure however and wanted some input on this matter.

Bray

im pretty sure its illegal in any state to have the Vin # tampered with

coolguyintree

That's what I thought, thanks. I was trying to get this help from a guy I met before who is a local stunt rider around here but my friend would not give me his number because he doesn't like his number being given out to people he has only met once, I guess. people these days, everyone I meet is either a thief, a felon or just a terrible person in life doing things only for personal gain. I am just an honest person trying to buy a motorcycle for cheap and fix it since the economy sucks and I figured there would be people trying to get rid of stuff since they need money too. So far everything is over-priced junk or stolen.

Hazen

Offer him way less $ due to the issue, and go buy a clean frame and Title.

coolguyintree

but then arn't i breaking the law buying stolen goods? and wont the motor be illegal if the vin is scratched off of that too?

coolguyintree

would i be breaking the law owning a motorbike that has the vin scratched off the frame an possibly scratched off the motor too?

oh8cbr600

dude...**** the law..........steal the bike......if the owner scratched the vin he ain't gonna be able to call the cops on you...............ride the **** out of it...if the cops chase you, ditch the bike, they can't read the vin can't trace it...you're good......


sounds like a free pass to be an ******* to me lol

coolguyintree

lol well like i said, im an honest person for the most part so i wouldnt steal it. The guy is on stuntlife here and thats where i found the bike. I'm just trying to figure out if this bike is going to get my in trouble or not, cause i dunno about the engine and vin numbers on it and what not so if i did get a new titled frame and put it on there the engine still could be illegal and then i get fucked and my bike that i have dumped money into is gone.

oh8cbr600

i wouldn't **** with any bike that didn't have vin numbers on it

oh8cbr600

better yet..you tell me where the bike is..ill steal it...and ill sell it to you for 1000 bucks...

cause thats exactly what that guy did if theres no vin on the bike

coolguyintree

thats what im thinking but im just running out of patience trying to get a ******* bike you know? its like i want to ride a rocket soo ******* bad and dont have alot of money and the season is comming to an end and then the ground will be icy and covered in jizz *** snow.

oh8cbr600

what you trying to spend man?

0410R

Buy the f4i and then buy a frame

0410R

I smell bacon btw

coolguyintree

lol, well I mean anyone who answers this has HOPEFULLY either been in this situation once before and therefore no all about it now. Or I am talking to police who know the laws or should. The smart criminals who know all about the laws they are willing to be breaking. I like talking to the police because they are the ones who know how to do this kind of thing legal. The way I'm trying to do it. I am a pretty smart young man who wants to start getting these cheap bikes and fixing them and selling them. I was going to give the police the vin number but they wont do it over the phone. so then I was going to have them come out to check the vin number. Well that wasnt needed because over the phone before i even got there to see the bike he let me know there was no vin but assured me it wasnt stolen. I simply just cant afford to get in trouble when im looking to get into this legaly.why not do it legal if i can and still maybe make a few hundo doing something i love. I dont love it enough to break the law I guess, lol.

coolguyintree

and I'm looking to spend possibly up to $2500 for a titled f4i. not looking to drive far and i live about an hour west of Detroit, where this last bike was and the one before that

505COS

I am with ^^^^^^ them, just buy the **** and swap the dam frame, if it is going to be a lot bike them who cares, the guy it was stolen from probably have full covrage and got a new bike. So that one is just there, **** it buy it. Lol

imafrogg420

stop giving this dude advice

if hes not smart enough to know what to do with the situation then so be it

coolguyintree

well i could buy a titled frame to install and that's what i want to do but in the end i don't want to fund the market for stolen bikes and i believe that's what i would be doing.

RROCCO

just buy and have a cop come take a look at it. im sure he will know what to do from there.