NEW 03 04 636 round bars NEW
10-11-2009, 03:23 PM
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Re: NEW 03 04 636 round bars NEW
Sandbox, you have pics of the "new" round bar? I'm glad to see new guys making products and not just 2 or 3.
1. Not the 2 or 3 companies making stunt products have thought of everything and like someone said, ther IS always room for improvement.
2. Gives the guys with the innitiative to make new products to make some side money or make a living.
3. Competition, puts more people on the map which produces competitive prices.
4. Yeah, it may look like so and so's round bar, but seriously how many ways can you make a round bar?
5. Who cares if it looks like someone elses product, if someone can make a quality product at a good price, then great, as of right now this country is a capitalistic nation, which makes it great.
To say there's already 2 or 3 co. making products and it's gonna be tough is really a monopolistic mindset. Compition makes those that care about their product strive to keep on making a quality product and provide good customer service. Haven't we seen a few co. in the industry blow-up and now either shut the doors or are struggling due to these reasion?
Sad really, atleast he gave some good advice before the discouragement.
A true turn off to hear a company pretty much say, hey we're a big name in this industry now, so you guys trying to start, well why even try". My business and the promoting of the business will now be taken elsewhere.
True colors and how people really think eventually will surface.
If I end up keeping my bike, which it looks like I may, I will be needing a round bar. Please post up the new round bar when you can.
Also you making a street cage anytime soon?
I have a 03' 636
God bless
Marc
1. Not the 2 or 3 companies making stunt products have thought of everything and like someone said, ther IS always room for improvement.
2. Gives the guys with the innitiative to make new products to make some side money or make a living.
3. Competition, puts more people on the map which produces competitive prices.
4. Yeah, it may look like so and so's round bar, but seriously how many ways can you make a round bar?
5. Who cares if it looks like someone elses product, if someone can make a quality product at a good price, then great, as of right now this country is a capitalistic nation, which makes it great.
To say there's already 2 or 3 co. making products and it's gonna be tough is really a monopolistic mindset. Compition makes those that care about their product strive to keep on making a quality product and provide good customer service. Haven't we seen a few co. in the industry blow-up and now either shut the doors or are struggling due to these reasion?
Sad really, atleast he gave some good advice before the discouragement.
A true turn off to hear a company pretty much say, hey we're a big name in this industry now, so you guys trying to start, well why even try". My business and the promoting of the business will now be taken elsewhere.
True colors and how people really think eventually will surface.
If I end up keeping my bike, which it looks like I may, I will be needing a round bar. Please post up the new round bar when you can.
Also you making a street cage anytime soon?
I have a 03' 636
God bless
Marc
Last edited by Up0n0ne; 10-11-2009 at 03:32 PM.
10-11-2009, 09:18 PM
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Re: NEW 03 04 636 round bars NEW
yeah ill have new pics up soon. still going to buil this bar because the round bar is a little smaller and some people like it for a street bar. reason is that its not as noticeable but still provides protection. yeah street and stunt cage. Ill also get pics of them up asap. thanks man
10-11-2009, 09:29 PM
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Re: NEW 03 04 636 round bars NEW
Thanks Sandbox, I'll keep checking back!
How much are the streetcages running? And the new round bars are $85 as well?
Marc
How much are the streetcages running? And the new round bars are $85 as well?
Marc
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10-13-2009, 08:48 AM
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Re: NEW 03 04 636 round bars NEW
Sandbox, you have pics of the "new" round bar? I'm glad to see new guys making products and not just 2 or 3.
1. Not the 2 or 3 companies making stunt products have thought of everything and like someone said, ther IS always room for improvement.
2. Gives the guys with the innitiative to make new products to make some side money or make a living.
3. Competition, puts more people on the map which produces competitive prices.
4. Yeah, it may look like so and so's round bar, but seriously how many ways can you make a round bar?
5. Who cares if it looks like someone elses product, if someone can make a quality product at a good price, then great, as of right now this country is a capitalistic nation, which makes it great.
To say there's already 2 or 3 co. making products and it's gonna be tough is really a monopolistic mindset. Compition makes those that care about their product strive to keep on making a quality product and provide good customer service. Haven't we seen a few co. in the industry blow-up and now either shut the doors or are struggling due to these reasion?
Sad really, atleast he gave some good advice before the discouragement.
A true turn off to hear a company pretty much say, hey we're a big name in this industry now, so you guys trying to start, well why even try". My business and the promoting of the business will now be taken elsewhere.
True colors and how people really think eventually will surface.
If I end up keeping my bike, which it looks like I may, I will be needing a round bar. Please post up the new round bar when you can.
Also you making a street cage anytime soon?
I have a 03' 636
God bless
Marc
1. Not the 2 or 3 companies making stunt products have thought of everything and like someone said, ther IS always room for improvement.
2. Gives the guys with the innitiative to make new products to make some side money or make a living.
3. Competition, puts more people on the map which produces competitive prices.
4. Yeah, it may look like so and so's round bar, but seriously how many ways can you make a round bar?
5. Who cares if it looks like someone elses product, if someone can make a quality product at a good price, then great, as of right now this country is a capitalistic nation, which makes it great.
To say there's already 2 or 3 co. making products and it's gonna be tough is really a monopolistic mindset. Compition makes those that care about their product strive to keep on making a quality product and provide good customer service. Haven't we seen a few co. in the industry blow-up and now either shut the doors or are struggling due to these reasion?
Sad really, atleast he gave some good advice before the discouragement.
A true turn off to hear a company pretty much say, hey we're a big name in this industry now, so you guys trying to start, well why even try". My business and the promoting of the business will now be taken elsewhere.
True colors and how people really think eventually will surface.
If I end up keeping my bike, which it looks like I may, I will be needing a round bar. Please post up the new round bar when you can.
Also you making a street cage anytime soon?
I have a 03' 636
God bless
Marc
whenever I get better at my clutch up ill be gettin a roundbar
10-13-2009, 09:14 AM
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Re: NEW 03 04 636 round bars NEW
Sandbox, you have pics of the "new" round bar? I'm glad to see new guys making products and not just 2 or 3.
1. Not the 2 or 3 companies making stunt products have thought of everything and like someone said, ther IS always room for improvement.
2. Gives the guys with the innitiative to make new products to make some side money or make a living.
3. Competition, puts more people on the map which produces competitive prices.
4. Yeah, it may look like so and so's round bar, but seriously how many ways can you make a round bar?
5. Who cares if it looks like someone elses product, if someone can make a quality product at a good price, then great, as of right now this country is a capitalistic nation, which makes it great.
To say there's already 2 or 3 co. making products and it's gonna be tough is really a monopolistic mindset. Compition makes those that care about their product strive to keep on making a quality product and provide good customer service. Haven't we seen a few co. in the industry blow-up and now either shut the doors or are struggling due to these reasion?
Sad really, atleast he gave some good advice before the discouragement.
A true turn off to hear a company pretty much say, hey we're a big name in this industry now, so you guys trying to start, well why even try". My business and the promoting of the business will now be taken elsewhere.
True colors and how people really think eventually will surface.
If I end up keeping my bike, which it looks like I may, I will be needing a round bar. Please post up the new round bar when you can.
Also you making a street cage anytime soon?
I have a 03' 636
God bless
Marc
1. Not the 2 or 3 companies making stunt products have thought of everything and like someone said, ther IS always room for improvement.
2. Gives the guys with the innitiative to make new products to make some side money or make a living.
3. Competition, puts more people on the map which produces competitive prices.
4. Yeah, it may look like so and so's round bar, but seriously how many ways can you make a round bar?
5. Who cares if it looks like someone elses product, if someone can make a quality product at a good price, then great, as of right now this country is a capitalistic nation, which makes it great.
To say there's already 2 or 3 co. making products and it's gonna be tough is really a monopolistic mindset. Compition makes those that care about their product strive to keep on making a quality product and provide good customer service. Haven't we seen a few co. in the industry blow-up and now either shut the doors or are struggling due to these reasion?
Sad really, atleast he gave some good advice before the discouragement.
A true turn off to hear a company pretty much say, hey we're a big name in this industry now, so you guys trying to start, well why even try". My business and the promoting of the business will now be taken elsewhere.
True colors and how people really think eventually will surface.
If I end up keeping my bike, which it looks like I may, I will be needing a round bar. Please post up the new round bar when you can.
Also you making a street cage anytime soon?
I have a 03' 636
God bless
Marc
You definately took it the wrong way if youre talking about my post. I was trying to give the guy some good advise. Coming out with a product that is already out with little to no improvement from the competition is hard to get started that way. I was by no means delivering it the way you took it. Competition will always be out there in any industry. Hell if anything its good for the sport. Keeps all of us on our toes. Free bump to the top.
10-13-2009, 10:38 AM
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Re: NEW 03 04 636 round bars NEW
You definately took it the wrong way if youre talking about my post. I was trying to give the guy some good advise. Coming out with a product that is already out with little to no improvement from the competition is hard to get started that way. I was by no means delivering it the way you took it. Competition will always be out there in any industry. Hell if anything its good for the sport. Keeps all of us on our toes. Free bump to the top.
A company is never too big that they can't fall.
Stay humble and be thankful.
It's not a big deal and certainly not looking for a pat on the back, but I am a repeat customer of yours, I've bought 3 cages and a set of sliders from SI.
BTW: Is that you in your avatar, alwasy see dif. pics and wonder this.
God Bless,
Marc
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10-13-2009, 10:43 AM
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Understood, you did give him some good advice and he took it and applied it from my understanding. And I do understand that there are a few, very few, reputable companies making round bars, and maybe I took it a little out of context, so my apoligies, but give the guy some good advice and stay humble, that's all I'm saying.
A company is never too big that they can't fall.
I know it doesn't matter, but I've bought 3 cages from you guys.
A company is never too big that they can't fall.
I know it doesn't matter, but I've bought 3 cages from you guys.
10-13-2009, 10:54 AM
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I was wondering if that was you. Nice beard, I'm 36 and still can't grow a full beard, all patchy and junk, but I still try from time to time. haha
10-14-2009, 12:00 PM
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We tried mounting it in every position possible, and it would either push the tail up or the undertail down, untill we ground off some material...Then it was a tight fit Last edited by JohnnyP; 10-14-2009 at 12:02 PM.
10-14-2009, 12:07 PM
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Sorry but no they dont, we had to grind alot of material off your gussets to get it to fit with an undertail.... We tried mounting it in every position possible, and it would either push the tail up or the undertail down, untill we ground off some material...Then it was a tight fit
We tried mounting it in every position possible, and it would either push the tail up or the undertail down, untill we ground off some material...Then it was a tight fit
10-14-2009, 12:25 PM
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Sorry but no they dont, we had to grind alot of material off your gussets to get it to fit with an undertail.... We tried mounting it in every position possible, and it would either push the tail up or the undertail down, untill we ground off some material...Then it was a tight fit
We tried mounting it in every position possible, and it would either push the tail up or the undertail down, untill we ground off some material...Then it was a tight fit
10-14-2009, 12:36 PM
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Basically it did not just bolt on like you would assume it would...So IMO if mods are required you should probably include some instructions....I was also confused on how to mount it, cause it could go on the bottom tube or the top one, and when I looked of pics of how other people mounted it, there was pics of mounted both ways...
You have to keep in mind not everyone is as mechanically inclined as the next person, I figured it out..However my friend could not figure it out and was really pissed off...Same with my other friend that I got the 2 600RR round bars from you for, that didnt come with any bolts...You told us to get bolts from a hardware store, but you didnt tell us what size....He waited a month for those, then had to buy his own bolts and even figure out what sizes to buy....Again not a big deal for myself, but for someone like him he was like "WTF $200, wait a long time, no instructions, no marking between the 03/04 and 05/06 bar, and no bolts"
Even if you dont print instructions and ship them with the parts, some online instructions would be a great idea
Your 05/06 636 subframe also required alot of cutting/trimming of the battery box and figuring things out. And some bolts just dont line up anymore ..Instructions for that would be nice too
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10-14-2009, 01:09 PM
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I had to do that aswell as trim your gussets. Basically it did not just bolt on like you would assume it would...So IMO if mods are required you should probably include some instructions....I was also confused on how to mount it, cause it could go on the bottom tube or the top one, and when I looked of pics of how other people mounted it, there was pics of mounted both ways...
You have to keep in mind not everyone is as mechanically inclined as the next person, I figured it out..However my friend could not figure it out and was really pissed off...Same with my other friend that I got the 2 600RR round bars from you for, that didnt come with any bolts...You told us to get bolts from a hardware store, but you didnt tell us what size....He waited a month for those, then had to buy his own bolts and even figure out what sizes to buy....Again not a big deal for myself, but for someone like him he was like "WTF $200, wait a long time, no instructions, no marking between the 03/04 and 05/06 bar, and no bolts"
Even if you dont print instructions and ship them with the parts, some online instructions would be a great idea
Your 05/06 636 subframe also required alot of cutting/trimming of the battery box and figuring things out. And some bolts just dont line up anymore ..Instructions for that would be nice too
Basically it did not just bolt on like you would assume it would...So IMO if mods are required you should probably include some instructions....I was also confused on how to mount it, cause it could go on the bottom tube or the top one, and when I looked of pics of how other people mounted it, there was pics of mounted both ways...You have to keep in mind not everyone is as mechanically inclined as the next person, I figured it out..However my friend could not figure it out and was really pissed off...Same with my other friend that I got the 2 600RR round bars from you for, that didnt come with any bolts...You told us to get bolts from a hardware store, but you didnt tell us what size....He waited a month for those, then had to buy his own bolts and even figure out what sizes to buy....Again not a big deal for myself, but for someone like him he was like "WTF $200, wait a long time, no instructions, no marking between the 03/04 and 05/06 bar, and no bolts"
Even if you dont print instructions and ship them with the parts, some online instructions would be a great idea
Your 05/06 636 subframe also required alot of cutting/trimming of the battery box and figuring things out. And some bolts just dont line up anymore ..Instructions for that would be nice too
As far as the hardware goes, not all bars come with the hardware. Same thing, we could have told him what to do. All he had to do is ask. We have been working on an online instruction guide to help people with their install questions. If there wasnt marking between the 2 bars, im sorry about that. The guys are suppose to mark all of those. I try to watch every order that leaves the building, but from time to time, one or two get past. 
