jdips01

I recently bought my first bike. It's a 2000 yzf 600, but I am an average guy, so it has enough *****. Is it better to first learn a wheelie by clutching it up or by powering it up? Any info, or do's and don'ts would be cool.

Suicidl

clutch the **** out of it. it dont have that much power :YEAH

aNskY

its got plenty of ***** to power it... but dont... clutching is much easier and more consistant. once you learn what you gotta do, its like second nature

gixxer0.6g

It seems to me, that everyone learning wheelies usually starts with first gear power wheelies...that's where I started. But once I finally discovered how to clutch them up I've been doing it ever since. I do still bounce/power it up in second but first gear clutch ups are the way to go.

jdips01

Learn by standing or sitting?

Dj Reversal

im the perfect guy to tell ya this cause i spent 6 months trying to figure things out lol... and last night i finally started scraping... anyways..

Do whateva feels most comfertable for you right away.. since your a rookie to wheelies, every few inches the wheel comes up its gonna feel scary.. to me, everyone told me sitdowns are much harder to do slow that i should do stand ups.. but standups always made me feel awkward..

i started with sit downs 1st gear, no clutch.. and i just started by going maybe to like 5500rpms, letting off the gas, rocking my weight back and hitting the gas, and it would come up a little bit, then i hit it a little harder and so on.. till she started rising.. just get smooth and controlled with your throttle and leave your foot over the rear brake.. once you start riding out wheelies a bit say @ a 45 degree angle, then i'd say work on snapping it up with the clutch.. this way your not gonna panic the first time it jumps up to that point.. i know i woulda bailed when i scraped y esterday if i didnt take my time and get comfertable at the heights..


if u feel standing is better, try that.. some people like left foot on the rear peg.. ill tell ya one thing, sitting down with a good height wheelie u really cant see good in front of u, have to look around the bike and u can easily cause the bike to wobble, which is scary too when ya not used to it.. stand ups u can see everything.. foot on the rear peg takes alot of weight off your arms.. so try it out, maybe a stand up with a little bounce, or a sit down.. do what makes u most comfertable and confident.


JUST REMEMBA TO COVER YOUR REAR BRAKE, and get in the habit of hitting it when u get nervous.. its basically your loop prevention system

Mark

nasty6r

If I were you I'd gear that yzf to ****. I checked on SprocketSpecialists.com and that bike has a 47 tooth rear sprocket. I would go down one tooth in the front and up like 6 in the rear. :YEAH :YEAH Then try to start doing power wheelies until you get used to riding them a little ways. Once you get a feel for the bike and you feel comfortable picking it up start to try clutching You might want to try getting used to having your left foot on the rear passenger peg and your right foot over the rear brake. Once you get good at stand ups you will be able to use the rear brake to get higher without going to high, it's all about control.Practice,practice,practice!

-MXD-

all this power wheelie crap is garbage. sitting or standing is a preference but a power wheelie is just stupid. it goes from slowly coming up to looping in a split second.

learn to clutch it up and dont listen to anyone that tells you to power wheelie, good way to get hurt. theres a huge thread on the top of the page that will explain everything in detail. do that then practice. make sure you are covering your rear brake.

Suicidl

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xRR-riderx

i agree...

ruthlessriding

i never clutch. i have an f3. 1 down 2 up. first through third it will stand right up with out the clutch. i dont like using the clutch.

jdips01

I was out Saturday and Sunday and tried both. It is a little tricky clutching it up when you first start out, scary as HELL!!! But then I started powering them up and that felt a little more stable. I know i am contridicting myself, but then I started working on a christ. I got up about 3/4 of the way, but the'll be there soon. I'm ordering frame sliders on Wednesday, so after that anything goes. Go to www.straightirate.com and check out the guys i ride with. I will be on there soon. :YEAH

Suicidl

cough * cough at about 100

DURTY

I second that !!! and thats great that power works for u but the correct way that all the pros will tell u is clutching...

Jaket

usually people that vote for power are only doing powerwheelies on big bike. You can use all 150hp to wheelie, but you get too much speed and run out of revs. Also if you bring it higher you gonna need all the power to get it up, but split second later you need zero power, not good...

The less throttle you use the better, and the only way to use less throttle is use more clutch, clutch gives you lift, but it runs out, so it's perfect for lift up, after all you want the front up, you don't want to accelerate. Only clutch gives this, well some supergeared bikes wheelie anyway, but for normal bikes it's a must.

I learned power first, but soon got stuck to the fact that I was getting too much speed and too low wheelies and was running out of revs. then I learned the clutching with XR650, it came up with little throttle flip and dropping the clutch so nicely. Then I tested the same thing with streetbikes and yeehaa, You can get it up at walking space and have tons of revs to run through even if you can't take it to BP yet.

JT

ruthlessriding

yeah in third gear at 95 mph it comes right up effortlessly. i do like to do triple digit wheelies, i enjoy them. but even at like 10 mph. i just tap it and it's scrapping the tail. i know im not "pro" like some of you guys. but i still have talent. especially giving the shport time i've been riding. in my opinion there is no "correct" way. it's all about your own personal comfort.

DURTY

Read the post above u hes not a "pro" eighther nor am i but by powering ur losing to much revs and its not consistent for a lot of things i agree its personal comfort but for wheelies the "correct" way is to clutch power wheelie is when ur beginin then when u try clutchin ull know what were talking about it takes a bit more ***** so till then , enjoy ur power ups

Suicidl

thats fine that you like the streets but triple digits 10 mph tap it and hit tail on a f3 -1 +2 i do not think so. but you could have done it the one time when you looped it

-MXD-

is that you in the avatar, cuz thats not an f3 and the tail is perfect.

oh yeah and my bike also comes right up from a dead stop when i power it up.......................but i have a gsxr750 and its -1+11.

learn to use the clutch bro, do it right

Dj Reversal

i never really said power wheelie.. i mean i guess its the same, but i just said rock ya body weight and snap the gas in 1st.. u can get it to come up fairly quick.. only reason i say roll on it to start, is i know how many times i panic'd thinking i was looping, and i still was only @ like 45 degree angle... u get a better feel for throttle control also this way... once your comfertable getting it to 45 degrees or a little higher i would go over to clutching it to that point and then work with ya brake and throttle to keep her there..

no matter what u try, it takes time, most people that go crazy and rush it higher and higher, learn quicker but crash learning.. i took months to get my wheelies down, and now i can finally scrape and ride slow wheelies and i havent been down yet <knock on wood> just had to deal with the crew ripping on me bout taking foreva to hit the tail


Mark