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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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highway wheelies(Balance point)

I know that there are alot of threads about this situation but I want one tailored to me.
My question is from the beginning exactly what steps do I take to go about finding the b.p. Please take me from step 1, I am a true newbie. The bike is a 94 900rr.
I know that everyone learns at their own pace but how long did it take you to be able to ride a highway wheelie with control. How long from the first time you tried to wheelie till you were going half miles or miles.
Any input would be helpful p.s I just started riding this is my first bike.
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

i don't want to sound like an old man here (and i'm not), but if you are completely n00b to this riding thing, maybe you should work more on getting your riding skills down, maybe a few thousand miles, then start working on wheelies.

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now, with that being said, i'd guess clutching up 2nd gear, standing with your right foot on the front peg, and left on the rear peg.. yea.. i'd think that would work just fine.

be ready to practice somewhere that isn't on the hwy. with friends, and a cell phone present.
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

Originally Posted by mgranzow
i don't want to sound like an old man here (and i'm not), but if you are completely n00b to this riding thing, maybe you should work more on getting your riding skills down, maybe a few thousand miles, then start working on wheelies.

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now, with that being said, i'd guess clutching up 2nd gear, standing with your right foot on the front peg, and left on the rear peg.. yea.. i'd think that would work just fine.

be ready to practice somewhere that isn't on the hwy. with friends, and a cell phone present.
I agree totally!! learn to ride regular first learn your bike and get comfortable with your riding skill. then when you do decide to stand up give a little preload in second and let out the clutch lean back and cruise on one wheel youll be alot more confident in your riding ability. it doesnt come right off the bat just ride first then stunt
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

cover the rear break!!!!!!!! since you are new, the rear break is the little lever is next to your front right peg ( in front ). Cover that all the time.
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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I'd learn the bike first. I rode for a year before I started doing wheelies. Riding on one wheel is just like 2, but about 20x's harder

And about finding the BP, don't worry about your height at first, try and be SMOOTH with the throttle. Once ya get throttle control down, then it'll be easier to get em higher.

Once ya start em, just see how steady you can keep the wheelie, that'll help ya learn the best in my opinion.
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

I do understand that I must learn to ride first. But after I am comfortable riding what would the steps be. Also how long did it take you to ride a wheelie at the balance point after you first started trying.. Thanx alot
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

your starting on a 900...? isn't that kinda big for a n00b? I'm only on a 600...
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

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your starting on a 900...? isn't that kinda big for a n00b? I'm only on a 600...

As long as you respect the power it shouldn't matter.
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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i agree learn to ride first.. then learn to stunt, you can't stunt if you can't ride, but you can ride if you don't stunt
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

I wated a year before even attempting a wheelie.

my best wheelie so far, though, was a complete accident on a -1/+2 2000 r6.

honestly, i've been trying wheelies for a month now, and I can't get the bike to stand up to save my life. but I have a zx7, so i guess I'm not completely to blame.
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

I always say that start wheelies with bicycle. If you cannot wheelie bicycle, don't try it with motorcycle. If you can do it pretty good with bicycle, then move to motos... With bicycle you quickly learn how fast it goes over...(no engine braking)... Even learning some new stuff like switchback or similar I first get on the bike and try the physics with it.. cheaper way...

Problem with bicycles is that you only learn hand brake..

But wheelies are much easier with bicycle, so if they feel hard. Don't try it with bigger bikes. It may feel like easy, because you have power that brings it up. But you are passenger, not a driver... Just play it safe...



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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:51 AM
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

Originally Posted by Jaket
I always say that start wheelies with bicycle. If you cannot wheelie bicycle, don't try it with motorcycle.
But wheelies are much easier with bicycle, so if they feel hard. Don't try it with bigger bikes.



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Um, I can't wheelie a mountain bike for ****. Hell, I can't even wheelie my fiddy

I understand where you're coming from, but I think everyones different. I started wheeling my ZX 6, then learned a lot more once I had my R1, but I just took small steps the whole way, and knock on wood, haven't gone down in a wheelie yet. Now tankslappers, thats another story
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i rode dirtbikes and 4 wheelers for 10 years before i got on a bike the first was a 900rr rode for a week and was doing 12's
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

#1 Learn some sort of balance trick (switchback,christ,recliner,etc) to get a feel on how your weight shifting affects the bike
#2 Since you have a 900rr make sure you have a sticky tire, spinning into a wheelie can toss you up quicker than you'd ever expect
#3 get used to riding with your foot over the rear brake at all times and try using only the rear break cruzin around town without messing around to get the feel of the rear brake
#4 work on TINY wheelies like 6 inches tops,(I perfer clutch,but some riders swear by bounce,but don't just throttle it up...it's too unpredictable that way)no need to ride to rev limiter just pop them up and down at first

whatever wheelie style you try to learn...watch as many video's of peope as you can to teach you the timing it takes

#5 When you are TOTALLY comfortable with little wheelies start riding them out to just before rev-limiter and let the throttle out slowly (if you hit the limiter or just let off the throttle you'll come down really hard and it won't take very long at all to blow out yer fork seals

#6 As you get comfortable try to go a little higher until you have to feather the throttle...at that point work on keeping the wheelie smooth with a constant throttle

#7 bring it higher as you get comfortable (make lots of videos to see how high you ACTUALLY are) again refer to video's of how high stunters ride who havn't lightened the front end (race fairings,no headlights,etc)

when you get to riding high enough that you can't see over the windscreen, it's time to learn standups...I really can't tell you how i learned to stand...cuz it just happened for me one day, as i got to the point where i couldn't see over the windscreen i just started lifting my body as the bike rose up to where i could barely see over it

#8 when your throttle control is down you will just eventually get high enough where the bike dosn't accelerate when you wheelie

covering the rear brake is a safty net don't be afraid to use it...and as far as using passinger pegs...personally i think that is not how you should learn...because the bike tends to be less stable with yer feet staggered like that...at least while you are learning
yes some stunters have learned that way, but why learn the hard way if you don't have to

#9 once you get to BP learn to steer by leaning yer body left and right (it won't work until you are at BP)

oh yeah and the most common problem i see with noob's is the tendancy to lean foreward just relax and take yer time
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

Thanx alot for the info. Can someone tell me how long it took them to progress from first picking up the front wheel until you were riding highway wheelies with confidence. I'm not trying to get ahead of myself i'm just curius thanx alot
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

i've been practicing on and off for about 6months now. I'm just now starting to be able to ride out a 2nd gear standup. Dont think i'm ready for a highway wheelie yet but getting there. Taken me forever cause i'm a puss thats overly cautious and has never fallen.

btw, i cant ride out a sitdown.
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

Originally Posted by BoostedSi
i've been practicing on and off for about 6months now. I'm just now starting to be able to ride out a 2nd gear standup. Dont think i'm ready for a highway wheelie yet but getting there. Taken me forever cause i'm a puss thats overly cautious and has never fallen.

btw, i cant ride out a sitdown.

i hear ya, i've been tryin to power them for two weeks!
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

Originally Posted by eskimo
i hear ya, i've been tryin to power them for two weeks!
funny thing is, i suck at power wheelies. I only did power wheelies the first 2 weeks when i started..been using clutch ever since. Thats the only way i can do it good.
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

Originally Posted by stuntnstyle
i rode dirtbikes and 4 wheelers for 10 years before i got on a bike the first was a 900rr rode for a week and was doing 12's

w0w, your soooooo cool

your post helped him ALOT, trust me.. now he can do 12's in a week because you did too !
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Re: highway wheelies(Balance point)

Originally Posted by Billyt
Thanx alot for the info. Can someone tell me how long it took them to progress from first picking up the front wheel until you were riding highway wheelies with confidence. I'm not trying to get ahead of myself i'm just curius thanx alot
I still don't ride with full confidence...but i guess it took me about 6months or so to be able to wheelie well enough to be proud of



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