Last Sunday we were having a show, forks felt weird.
We kept rolling high stoppies and ****, until they just broke down.
it's the FIFTH time we change oil forks seals, but this time it's worse.
Bike just goes anywhere but straight, can't do a proper stoppie,

Is there any known 954 forks issue i'm not aware of?
Anyone had to make any mods to them???

THANKS FOR HELP IN ADVANCE

 

Bump!!

 

take your forks to a race oriented shop.
on a buddy of mine's forks they found small pits all over the inner fork tubes from sand and rocks hitting the tube.....made his seals blow out FAST and pushed neerly all of the fluid out in less than a month with NO STOPPIES

Race shops are alot more qualified than stealerships to properly work on your forks and figure out the real issues on whats making em mess up on ya

 

eazenutz33 : Shut your mouth about **** you have no clue about it


theres these things called bushing.. u can change them your self, you are suppose to change them when u change seals to... check out the microfisch on bikebandit.com and look at the fork internals and match the part numbers to the bushing... race shops build race forks.. which u will be paying 600$ for them to touch your forks... if u can change fork seals you can replace the bushing.. its easy and

 

I think we need a sticky for:" I am on my fourth set of ******* fork seals but they just keep blowing, WHY" Answer: replace your ******* bushings

 

scratch that post..............this is childish internet tough guy bullshit. Face to Face, noone would make that comment to someone else. It's bullshit and you're a dick! I got a better idea of what I'm talking about than what you think and was speaking from experience in dealing with a set of 929 forks. Form whatever opinion you want. We can talk this over in PMs if you want, I'm done in here.

 

I would definately look at the bushings, they are known to go bad and cause this issue on those forks, 929/954

 

id say it to your face if i thought it. i dont know about wheeliest though. he tends to be non confrontational, even on aim.

sounds like bushings or something else needs to be replaced as well. they dont blow like that factory...

 

Thanks guys. the issue about scratches and bumps from gravel hitting fork tube is non-existent.. those " ******* fork seals" started DROOLING LIKE A ******* CAMEL from day #1..
And we did change bushings every single ( ******* ) time the (*******) seals blew off..

Thanks everyone though, everyone having advice is welcome...
and stop being internet **** :D

 

What Type Of Seals Are You Using?

 

Original Honda 954 fork seals, why? is there any particular version to look for?

 

not starting ****.....but talked to the local race shop and to another friend who's been working on motorcycles since he was 12.
Both told me the exact same thing on why your forks would instantly leak after installing new seals.

Here's what they said:
if the forks are leaking after new seals are installed its most likely due to fork leg damage or damage to the seals on install.

Sometimes the damage isn't overly apparent, I had a bad fork leg that was very slightly bent on a 1000RR front end, instead of being perfectly round, it was slightly oval, it also had REALLY SMALL pits in it from sand getting past the dust seal into the oil seal. I had a slow, constant, leak.....not an oozing leak like you have. But I had to get INCHES away to see the grooves and pits the sand made when they were showing it to me at the shop. I bought a single left fork from D2Cycles, a local small salvage yard that buys bikes for race parts. He had all the guages and tools there to tell me what was straight and smooth. Swapped it out and it wasn't a problem anymore.

Not saying that is EXACTLY what your problem is, but you might give it a shot. If you have a guage for checking to see if wheels or rotors are out of round you can use it very similar to that to see if its got a minor bend o make it out of round.

Hope my opinion wasn't a complete waste.

 

OEM honda parts always seemed as good or better than most of the aftermarket products. Wouldn't think they would cause an issue. I've got OEM seal in the 954 front end on my F4i now and they've been going strong for a long time. I did put seal svers on the forks to help keep dust, dirt, and sand out of the seals since they use so much sand here in the winter.

 

No no Eazenuts it's no waste at all. we're experiencing the same problem, with the same bike ( almost) and doing the same things (almost.. still we can't do O's on it) . You're helpful FO SHO


Trouble is, every specialized sunspension mechanic
plays the "I'M THE ******' SURGEON HERE let me do the job,
since you play on the internet doesn't mean you know **** about bikes" part,
let's see if our advices are listened

 

if you take it to a race shop and they find they actual problem, drop a line. I'm curious whats actually wrong.

its hard for me to find replies to comments on here since my stuntlife account doesn't forward reply emails to my email account anymore

 

You'll get PMs as i have any news

 

try this... when i bought my forks on ebay i got em in and they were leaking like crazy... i called the guy i bought em from and chewed his *** and he sid he had JUST replaced em,.... i tore em down and the bushing and seal were stacked backwards. its just a thought but most techs are fresh outa school guys who dont know much.... so if they didnt know what they're doin they might have stacked em in the way they took em out thus havin the same problem over and over... i replaced both and stacked em PROPERLY and never had a problem since

 

That's crazy... it's different down here though, you know?
there's really few schools about being a mechanic,
99% of them just come out working for someone else's shop since 14yo,
get their asses abused and underpaid, and when they've got some skills they open their own shop...

They may even be unable to read or write, but sure know how to tigthen a screw

 

i had the same **** with my 600rr and my outer fork casing ended up being the problem. the outer casing barely brushed a pole and it was enough the slightly oval the part where the seal sits. check it out next time the forks are apart, i used a die grinder to round it out again and havent had a problem since