CHADf

would it be possible to use the same resivor for the hand brake and the front brake? they r always in the way.

if not, then how small can u go w/ it still being safe?

MikeM

it should work

JohnnyP

I wouldnt share them, theres no need to.....Get yourself some Bremebo 15cc res cups and thank me later

Their the smallest I have found

CHADf

so i can basically go as small as i want/can find?
w/ no problems/ loss of brake?

JohnnyP

As long as your res has a diaphram and you top up the fluid and dont let the diaphram max out, it doenst matter how big or small it is...

MikeM

what is your feeling on using a flexible clear line with the end crimped, as the res?

JohnnyP

Ok for rear on a race bike as they dont use the rear brake much, not good for a stuntbike or front brakes IMO....I had that on my rear brake on my street R6, when I started 12ing that bike I lost the rear brake compleltey and almost ate **** hard....

You need a diaphram to take up the air space as your pads wear down and the fluid level drops.....Also when you get on the brakes the res gets presuraized for a second before the piston passes the res port....Even air in your res makes a difference in pump up, I over fill my res cups before I put the cap on. This makes the system work the best with the least amout of pump up needed.....

My setups only need one pump up, meaning if your on the foot brake the first pull on the HB will be a little soft, but as soon as you go for a second pull its at full pressure....

CHADf

know any cheap sites w/ the small res. u have? (johnnyp)<-

JohnnyP

Anyone that sells Brembo can get you those cups, they are alreayd cheap at like $7 each retail....

CHADf

^^^^^^^^^^yeah just found that out!!! LOL

so u think if i (T)'d into 1 res. that it wouldn't work?(run both lines off 1 res.)?

nags

You really shouldn't need any pumps at all.. Mine and I know Old Man Rogers as well require none

nags

Emgo also makes those small reservoirs

You can see it down there somewhere

JohnnyP

Maybe you dont get what Im saying, even Bill at FT says the same....No matter how good you are at bleeding there will always be a tiny amount of air in the system....

going from the foot brake to the HB the first pull has like %95 power, then by the 2nd pull its at %100....Doesnt get any better then that...The difference it so minimal its only noticable to me, anyone else says its the same **** 1st or 2nd pull...

JohnnyP

The Brembo 15cc is the smallest

Brembo on the right, what I used to use on the left

MikeM

now i have to go home and do testing

im pretty sure mine's full pressure on the first pull. i gotta check now

Bill McMahon

Bill at Fullthrottleinc.net says if the air is completely bled out of your system your handbrake will be on point first pull.

Ridin Disorder

I used a rear res. off a 94 kx80. it is pretty small, I'm not sure of the cc's but it is tiny

old man roger

you have air in your system..............

there is a full line on your resivour for a reason over filling your resivour can cause brake faid because your brakes can drag when the fluid gets hot and expands ,unless you have air in you system.....

MikeM

I sat there for 10 minutes last night, switching between the hb and fb (bike not moving) and no matter how hard I look, i dont see a 5% (or any) difference between the first pump and the second. Thats on my bike, with a rear master that your guy welded up.

Then I tried it on my friends bike with a gptech+hoseclamp. Yes, definitely noticable difference between first and second pump. Not a big difference, but its there. Im gonna try out one of my secret bleeding maneuvers on his tonight to see if I can make a difference.

JohnnyP

I was pretty certain we had another thread goin a while ago where you and Teach through in your 2 cents on bleeding, maybe I got it mixed up and Teach was the one that said they always work like that(tiny amout of air)....He runs your setup and we pretty much agreed on the subject.....

Im going to try and get some more air out, but the last bleed I did there was nothing but fluid comming out...So I dont know if its gonna get any better then it already is, but who knows bubbles tend to loosen up after I ride the bike...

And every setup Ive put togther is so different I can really compare them, some use FT masters some stock, and all differnt front masters....