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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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Question EndoZZZ - going to the side

Wazzup everyone, all the way from Canada....lol
Anyway looking for some endo help up here.
I can roll them 30-60ft usually but not consistent.
Bring them up at around 60MPH but most of the times the bike slides out to the left or right.
WTF???
ITs not consistently straight.
Is it uneven downforce on the handlebars??

I know you MF's can roll em long down in the states, hook a canadian brutha up with some info.

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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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Usually if they go to the side right away you aren't high enough. If you go higher and they continue to go sideways they are much easier to correct. But if you aren't high enough, there is no correcting them
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So not high enough when I am starting off the Endo....hmm
Something to think about....
I noticed most of the decent videos the Endo kings seem to slingshot the rear right up to the right position where as I seem to take a safer approach and gradually lift the rear until comfy height.

You mention its easier to correct when higher up, how so?? are you placing more pressure on one side of the bars???
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by SmurfKilla
So not high enough when I am starting off the Endo....hmm
Something to think about....
I noticed most of the decent videos the Endo kings seem to slingshot the rear right up to the right position where as I seem to take a safer approach and gradually lift the rear until comfy height.

You mention its easier to correct when higher up, how so?? are you placing more pressure on one side of the bars???
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check out this video...check out joe..he's the one on camo zx6 watch on the stoppie that he does at the end of the video that he loops at the end. in the beginning of that stoppie he whips it up to the balance point and the watch him **** his body from left to right to stear it.

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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by SmurfKilla
So not high enough when I am starting off the Endo....hmm
Something to think about....
I noticed most of the decent videos the Endo kings seem to slingshot the rear right up to the right position where as I seem to take a safer approach and gradually lift the rear until comfy height.

You mention its easier to correct when higher up, how so?? are you placing more pressure on one side of the bars???
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It's like a wheelie. If you arent balanced or near balanced, you can't steer. Same concept for stoppies. Get 'em up high and fast, but be careful not to bring it up TOO hard. That will result in a wig splitting.
Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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Yeah I seen this video already man, its some crazy ****. Dont even look like he is going to fast at all.
So the key is getting the bike up fast, not giving it time to swing around......????
BTW, you ride with these guys???
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Originally posted by SmurfKilla
Yeah I seen this video already man, its some crazy ****. Dont even look like he is going to fast at all.
So the key is getting the bike up fast, not giving it time to swing around......????
BTW, you ride with these guys???
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yeah joe was doing 400 feet bringing it up at 80 or so. in that video he was bringing them up like at 50-55. for his now 500+ footers i'm not sure what speed he is bringing them up at. i have been down for almost a month with fucked up leg so i haven't rode with them in awhile..nags can tell ya though.
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Originally posted by underzen
yeah joe was doing 400 feet bringing it up at 80 or so. in that video he was bringing them up like at 50-55. for his now 500+ footers i'm not sure what speed he is bringing them up at. i have been down for almost a month with fucked up leg so i haven't rode with them in awhile..nags can tell ya though.
He's bringing 'em up at about 75 for 500.
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Yeah Nags I hear you on the balance point thing, my endoz suck but my wheelies are there. I dont got the crazy tricks like you guys got but hey a 5mile wheelie is long enough to say I understand where the balance point is....hahahaha.

I just started Endoz a month ago and have come along way with a ways to go yet. But they are getting there. The frustrating part is the inconsistent nature of them. But you guys are right, you gotta get them up quick, not giving the chance for them to swing around.
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Originally posted by SmurfKilla
Yeah Nags I hear you on the balance point thing, my endoz suck but my wheelies are there. I dont got the crazy tricks like you guys got but hey a 5mile wheelie is long enough to say I understand where the balance point is....hahahaha.

I just started Endoz a month ago and have come along way with a ways to go yet. But they are getting there. The frustrating part is the inconsistent nature of them. But you guys are right, you gotta get them up quick, not giving the chance for them to swing around.
Thanks guys.
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My stoppies suck ***, but I was starting to get better a few days ago. Then all of a sudden I learned to steer them. I was all psyched that I learned to steer them. But NOW.... I unintentionally steer everyone and can't do a straight stoppie to save my life..... ARGGHHHH
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I find that keeping my arms perfectly straight keeps the endos straighter, but it doesn't feel too safe that way.
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What really sucks is I'll be putting my bike away in a few weeks due to winter and cold weather. So by spring I'll be nice and rusty.
Who knows maybe the winter will straighten out the stoppies.
LOL!!

You guys down in Florida got it made man. Hey what are the cops like down there, do they hate all you stunters??? Man up here in Ottawa they cant stand us! We get pulled over all the time just for routine searches!!!

Oh well, gonan try and pick me up a beater 900RR to practice on.


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I find that keeping my arms perfectly straight keeps the endos straighter, but it doesn't feel too safe that way.
I try to keep them as straight as possible, but for some reason latley I'm not.
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Originally posted by SmurfKilla
What really sucks is I'll be putting my bike away in a few weeks due to winter and cold weather. So by spring I'll be nice and rusty.
Who knows maybe the winter will straighten out the stoppies.
LOL!!

You guys down in Florida got it made man. Hey what are the cops like down there, do they hate all you stunters??? Man up here in Ottawa they cant stand us! We get pulled over all the time just for routine searches!!!

Oh well, gonan try and pick me up a beater 900RR to practice on.


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SK
Winter?? Whats that??

The cops are usually pretty cool as long as you stop. If you don't stop plan on helicopters and ****. So far I've never got a stunting ticket. Just warnings... Half the time the cops stop and watch us. We had 2 FHP's watching us for hours one day at the warehouses. :D
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Yeah that warehouse spot looks real nice.
You guys are down in ft Lauderdale??? Man I went to FIU down in Miami in early 90'z. Lived down in Carol City. Didnt even know how to ride a bike back then.
All I remember from Ft lauderdale az Sizzler, Thunderbird Swapshop and Sawgrass mall.

Man those vid'z are nice. The slow wheelies are pretty insane.
Of course the no helmet and gear thing is different.

Keep up the vids man, they are good. We got some of our own up here, but hell they would put you guys to sleep...lol.

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Originally posted by SmurfKilla
Yeah that warehouse spot looks real nice.
You guys are down in ft Lauderdale??? Man I went to FIU down in Miami in early 90'z. Lived down in Carol City. Didnt even know how to ride a bike back then.
All I remember from Ft lauderdale az Sizzler, Thunderbird Swapshop and Sawgrass mall.

Man those vid'z are nice. The slow wheelies are pretty insane.
Of course the no helmet and gear thing is different.

Keep up the vids man, they are good. We got some of our own up here, but hell they would put you guys to sleep...lol.

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Sizzler is THA ****. I miss that place

And I work across the street from Sawgrass Mills. Those warehouses are actually right down the street from the mall.
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Whats up there Smurfkilla and Nags.. I'm kind of having the same trouble as you smurf with the stoppies. I have been trying to bring it up quick the last few weeks but sometimes my bars get rocked side to side really quick, thats if I bring it up too fast. Must be the front end getting light or something. Guess I just have to get the timing right. I see what you guys are talking about when the bike is not at the balance point, seems hard to correct the bike going off to the sides. Sometimes I get good ones but not as consistant as I would like. But I see progress, practice and more practice.. Peace guys
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I guess like everything else its all about the practice.

When I think about how many wheelies it took before I got comfortable it makes sense that a month of Endoz aint gonna turn me into MR consistent.
I'll put up with the shitty ones for now as I am rewarded with some nice ones. Then its just a matter of time and practice before
they straighten up.
Just curious NAGS but how long you reckon some of these guys in the Stoppie madeness vid been doing stoppies???

Again thanks for the tips, wouldnt mind sneaking down to Fla and hooking up with some of you sometime. I gotta convince a few of my boyz to come with me and trailer the bikes.
BTW you guys would rock the place up here in Ottawa with the Killa stoppies and slow *** wheelies.

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Originally posted by nags
That will result in a wig splitting.
LOL nags
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Originally posted by SmurfKilla
I guess like everything else its all about the practice.

When I think about how many wheelies it took before I got comfortable it makes sense that a month of Endoz aint gonna turn me into MR consistent.
I'll put up with the shitty ones for now as I am rewarded with some nice ones. Then its just a matter of time and practice before
they straighten up.
Just curious NAGS but how long you reckon some of these guys in the Stoppie madeness vid been doing stoppies???

Again thanks for the tips, wouldnt mind sneaking down to Fla and hooking up with some of you sometime. I gotta convince a few of my boyz to come with me and trailer the bikes.
BTW you guys would rock the place up here in Ottawa with the Killa stoppies and slow *** wheelies.

Cheers
SK
Come on down here..... I'm headed up to Ontario in a few weeks :D



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