I'm working on my 12's and really slowing them down. What do you guys think is the better way to learn in the long run: turn up the idle and just use rear break OR learn with idle down and use throttle and break control? I will eventually learn both, but right now i actually seem better with idle down and using my throttle and break. Should i turn my idle up and beat myself to learn it that way now, or should i just keep going idle down and let the idle up stuff come later? Do you guys turn idle up for everything slow?

 

if your better with idle down go with it im an idle stunter and you wouldnt believe the **** i get for it ive got good throttle control but when practicing id rather pay atenttion to the the trick not if im doing it smooth enuogh for every body else

 

well ideally you want to be on idle, but the problem with learning with the idle jacked up is that the bike is a lot more likely to loop if your not quick with the brake.
if the idle is set very low you have a ton of engine brake and you can bring the wheelie down with just the throttle. if the idle is jacked up, yea its gonna be smoother learning the slow stuff, but you gotta have your brake control down becuase theres less room for forgiveness


you sound like you have the brake control down, so i would idle it up because it makes it a million times smoother and cleaner looking, and throttle smoothness is how you get your all around stability when riding a slow wheelie

 

i wish one day to acquire youre 'idle stunter' skills...
idle stunnin is where its at. combo handbreak **** gets repetitive to me, id rather see/have some no hand figure 8 ****. of course you gotta throw in some endos, coasters, and acros to keep it dangerous and for the people...

 

pull the clutch in when you scrape, then it wont matter

 

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I'm not talking about scraping, just slow wheelies...

 

if you wanna ride real real slow, like 5mph you have to have idle and brake control, they are kind of the same thing when you think about it. when youre driding slow wheelies you are either on the idle or keeping your throttle perfectly steady, which creates a constant rpm, kind of like an idle, and using hte brake to keep the bike balanced.

 

ttt, i see what your saying. My other problem is balancing the bike side to side when going that slow. Even if i'm on idle i have the same problem, so its not cause of throttle chop. Any advise on posture or something cause its frustrating the **** out of me. I just can't get it down, nothing has ever takin me this long to learn...

 

I learned slow wheelies with my idle at 1800 and after I could ride a sit down and staggered at about 3-5 mph I turned up my idle and started trying the no handed variations. That's all I've seem to find you can't do with out your idle up. I ride 2-2500 now for everything except no handers and it's workin great, I actually like it better because I can play with the engine breaking alot more. So that's my personal preference right now but in a month I might be rockin 8000 rpm idle . As far as the side to side, if you are doing sit downs you're basically going to be doing river dance with your az cheeks on your seat to balance, after awhile it will become such small movements it'll look like you're sitting pretty still but you'll still be movin to balance it. Staggered is much easier to balance because you can put more weight quicker to either foot to balance or steer the bike. So the advice I have is practice either a sitdown or staggerd all day until you get it. And lean the opposite way the bike is leaning to correct. .

 

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