well ....i was doing a slow wheelie last night, all of about 3 to 5 mph according to parker and chris from kenosha. **** felt real good going smooth. then it happened...brake fade. couldnt save it tossed it over...god damn hunk of crap 905 cage gave and the bar that runs in front of the motor broke my engine case...its in a spot that doesnt have alot of pressure on it so im hoping some good old jb weld will hold it till i can get another case.....i pissed oil all over the return road at great lakes

 

that sux, bro!! but you couldn't have spilled oil at a better place!! IMO.

 

sh!tty

 

now bill...you broke a 75 dollar case cover and a 200 dollar cage doing a free show......bill that **** to the owner of great lakes------see what i mean now?

 

Amen **** great lakes

 

i see exactly what you mean and have...unfortunatly when you have people in the group who dont feel the same way the 2 guys that do get fu(ked over...dont worry though...we got a plan...

 

I second that f*** da grove and f**** doing free shows

 

ill second that

 

Doing free shows is one thing, But when the ******** wont even give us free track time or any kind of perks what so ever **** em. They have been riding us like donkeys for years now. Gotta be the only place that dosent compensate thier riders at all. Mean while they rake in the doe and screw us in the process. Kinda sucked our riders and friends put in so much time and have ZERO to show for it.

THANX FOR NOTHING GREAT LAKES DRAGWAY

 

well ultimatum time will be coming soon...they are going to need someone to do the xsba shows and if they are packing the place we aint doing the **** for free. the shows during the week are basicly free and legal practice time for us with someone else to clean up the mess ya know...its a little different on harley shoot out nights when there are all of 20 people in the stands if we are lucky...

 

yeah fu(k free shows! :YEAH

 

Funny to see people chiming in saying f**k Great Lakes Dragaway...

I agree with Ryan on this but to this date a "show" has not been given to warrant any payment at all. I cant speak for 346's shows but I can speak for Miltown's experience at the grove.

So how can you ask to get paid when the "show" consists of a group of 6-10 guys treating the track like a parking lot with only friends watching, not a track with potentially thousands of spectators watching? When the riders are doing random tricks all over the track, even way past the spectators ability to see things at the end of the track, where is the entertainment value in that? Hell, as I did all the camera work, I couldnt even see half the **** that was going on even with 16x optical zoom or even try to keep track of people flying around randomly! So with that little entertainment value, why should the promoter have any obligation to pay for this makeshift "show". When entertainment is provided so will the payments. That much is fact.

 

Hey Bro!! this is no complaint about your post... just my opinion about how i feel about 346, Miltown, or anybody doing free sh*t for Great Lakes.... funny... i thought i remember a bunch of video posted on the website of people in the stands cheering for a bunch of guys out there trashing their bikes for nothing. i also remember many fans coming up and telling the guys that it was a great show. thats not considered a show?!? i'm not getting into a pissing match of what a "show" is or not... but i would think that ANY entertainment value provided is better entertainment value than watching track cleanup crew every time someone's car blows up.... and that folks, helps line Great Lakes pockets... which then warrants payment of some sort. oh gee.... thanks for the 10 mins of track time every four hours... greatly appreciated!! haha.... Great Lakes doen't even provide free concessions to feed or hydrate the riders.... what a joke!! i say hit Great Lakes Dragway where it REALLY counts... IN THEIR OWN POCKETS!! don't attend anymore of their events, and don't do anymore free shows, and spread the word they are BULLSHIT!! and for the record, i'm not one of the stunters mentioned here... just an outsider thats sick of Great Lakes treatment of people doing shows for them. end of rant.
Great Lakes Dragway

 

oh yeah.... Bill, sorry to hear about the damages to your bike. At least you got away with just damage to the motor and cover.... unlike someone who lost a whole bike to Great Lakes with no compensation.

 

Weather or not our shows where organized or not is not the point. They entertained the crowd, PERIOD. I remeber our guys out there in the rain putting on a show just to help the track out. Who gives a **** if we where not organized, we where still there, and our riders where very dedicated until they felt like they where being shorted, which they where.

And I dont care what the level of entertainment is, They still will not pay. There is only 2 guys in the group that think our guys arent worth getting payed. I agreed with you at first frank but after seeing this for the last 3 years It just kinda sucked seeing our riders get bent over.

Thats my 2 pennies

 

Amen, I love you Pat

 

Thanks Bra. hey.... i have those vids if you wanna watch 'em. JD3, SGW, and Servin the Streets. Laaaaater.

P.

 

i totally agree with all of you on the doing free shows sucks aspect...but like i said, when they have all of 20n people in the stands during a harley shoot out night, its a little different. we did how ever let the track officials know where we stand last time we were out there with at least treating us with some respect. dont tell us we are going on, get us gearer up and then have us sitting there for an hour(like that one night we were out there with miltown). we will go fu(king home. we dont have to do this **** if we arent getting paid....we were on the track 2 minutes after i *****ed. as for getting any money out of them, well there are only a handfull of shows left this year, seeing as how the guys from miltown were generous enough to give us a leg up, we are showing the track that we put on a solid show and give it our all. even the guys that arent in 346 that do the shows with us give it there all. so there is definitly going to have to be some negotiations for next years shows.

 

its still legal riding though!!! you cant beat that!!

 

xsba at the grove???? you better talk to thomas about that....and if they need a show to blow that place apart and none of you guys want to handle it....call me....but i better be getting a paycheck from that bastard, i've laid down enough coolant on that track in my time.....right miltown? LOL