lol haha lol anyway we ridin tomorow night or what

 

No.

Competitions need to work on getting shorter not longer. You add too many classes and the fans will get bored out of their mind. Remember this sport is for the fans/spectators....not the riders. If we do not concentrate on improving our competitions they are quickly going to come to an end. A promoter can only lose so much money before they call it quits.

Lets first concentrate on keeping the spectators at the shows and then go from there.

 

well said gil i agree but everone is bitching abought the comps being to long but i dont see it that way you have a pro and a am class so if your a am you ant runnin no hand brake or ext so no mod in am class that would just be for the pro class i think its a good ideir but what do i know thats just my to cents its just all abought being whith your boys and having a good time thats what i see it as

 

nah, no different classes.... i think the guys with almost stock bikes enjoy kickin the **** out of the rigged bikes. just my honorable, well respected, bad *** opinion! lol


crazy j must be about to switch some stuff on his bike, we all know he only posts what makes him look good... ON HERE anyways! lol, shut yer mouth and show up to an event son so i can part yer hair wit yer own bike! lololololol

 

IMO I think that Pro Freestyle means ANYTHING GOES. No matter if it's gearing or # of riders on a bike. If you enter the event.....you just know that you're going up against different bikes / different styles of riding.

I've done tandem on both kinds of bikes. Both have their OWN style. You just have to get used to that. One isn't better than the other....again...IMO.

Same class definetely. And Amateur classes should be stock bikes too. I agree there.

As for giving a list to the judges of what tricks you are going to do. That would imply that the competitor would have to have a routine already laid out. And most riders don't. So that may not work well for some. IMO I think that it would help.....but I don't think that most riders would go for that change.

No matter how your bike is set up....."Stunt it like you own it!"

~CAT

 

If you can ride, then ride... if you can't, then don't. The bike modifications have little to do with the rider's fear factor. Thew and Cramer are rolling over 800' endos with stock bikes, so was Gorka before he made the changes... they are still kicking the dust out of everyone else. So is it really an advantage, or is it mental?

Do the larger spockets make it easier to wheelie? Sure, but does that give anyone such a large advantage that it will win them competitions just because they have a larger sprocket, or hand break? Doubtfull. What did they ever do with a 42 tooth sprocket?

99% of this sport is mental. Look at FMX... how many modifications make a difference in their final scores. They change sprockets, tires, raise on the bars, seats... in the end... can you do a backflip or not? Can you do a 6 trick combo, can you light up the back tire, can you do a no-handed endo? Dan Jackson, Thew, Ronnie, Lonchar, etc... all top freestyle riders without question, the best some would argue. All with stock bike set-ups.

Keep it simple. One class, "Freestyle". If you need to make modifications to compete with the big boyz, then do it. Just stop making excuses...

 

how about a class for those who really suck LOL

 

i love to see the sport go further... but i dont stunt for the sport of stunting i stunt for me. i wish everyone the best. see you on the highway
-sean

 

100% true! So many focus on the slow stuff and never practice anything else!

 

well-rounded
I cant stress that enough!!!!

GORKA spoke the truth on that one. So many people focus on slow stuff and circles and forget about all the other stuff. Its gonna take someone who has all the fundamentals to place good in competitions. You got circles? so what. If your not well-rounded dont even bother. 1 big trick isnt gonna get you anywhere. You gotta have a big arsenal of tricks.

 

see and people get mad at me for doing burnouts at the "dumb *** pratice spots" " J ur gonna get us kicked out " " J your a ******* for tearing up the parking lot " geesh!

 

ok, im gonna make an attempt to not **** off anyone, so if you get pissed, you're just bored and have nothin else to do...


i JUST finished goin over the results from NSRA in Ginesville,FL.

can someone please, without bein a dick about it, explain how the scoring goes... im lookin at the score sheet and see certain names in top three in 3-4 catagories, but finished behind other riders in overall rankings whos name was only in top three in 1 or maybe 2 catagories.. just a lil lost.... if there are 5 events and i place 3rd in 4 of em, i would be kinda pissed if i finished behind someone who got 1- 1st and a 4th... know what i mean?? event layout is nice and i like how it puts everyone on equal grounds for all catagories, but the point system just looks completely wack.

hopefully i will get a response from gorka or dirty on this... i just wanna be clear on how things work, thats all, thanx guys! LATA!!

http://www.stuntnsra.com/results_championship.html

 

from what i remmeber dirty b expalining to us is that u get 4 scores on each event they take the high and low score on each event and throw them. they then take the two other scores and average them on each event. thats what i remember him saying

 

Maybe this will answer your question....


1) The All-Around Score will take into consideration 4
competitions:
a) Longest Stoppie..........20%
b) Controlled Wheelie......20%
c) Freestyle Burnout ........20%
d) Xtreme Freestyle.........40%
2) Each rider will receive a score in each competition
based on their performance.
3) Maximum possible score in each competition is
100pts.
4) The All-around Score will be based on a 100 point
scale and will be determined by the scores earned in
each of the four competitions previously listed.
5) In the event of a tie, the rider with the highest score in
Xtreme Freestyle will be the leader. If a tie still exists,
the ranking will be determined based on the longest
distance measured in Longest Stoppie.

(ii) Finals
1) The All-Around final score will take into consideration
the 2 Finals events:
a) Xtreme Freestyle.........75%
b) Sickest Trick ................25%
2) Each rider will receive a score in each competition
based on their performance.
3) Maximum possible score in each competition is
100pts.
4) The All-around Score will be based on a 100 point
scale and will be determined by the scores earned in
both of the competitions previously listed.
5) In the event of a tie, the rider with the highest score in
Xtreme Freestyle will be the leader. If a tie still exists,
the ranking will be determined based on the highest
score earned in Sickest Trick.

 

Thanks Jimmy. Also to answer your question Ronnie, the Final score was made up of only the two events in the Finals: Freestyle and Sickest Trick. All of the qualifying events were just used to determine the top 15 riders to advance to qualifying. Now that the event is over I am looking at modifying it a bit to make the final score take into consideration ALL of the events in qualifying and finals.

 

thanx, was just a lil confused.


wait still am.... ok,ok, i understand how you are getting the final score from the freestyle and the sickest trick now.... but how are you getting the freestyle score in the first place??? it just seems like the sheet says one thing at the top, but then it says somethin different at the bottom.. for instance... joe dryden got a 100 in controlled wheelie, 98 in stoppie, and 90.5 in burnout... but his score is only a 93.5 for xtreem freestyle.. and to be honest, if i may, that alone shows he is a more complete rider on paper than the second place rider (no disrespect intended), doesnt it? i understand you prolly have some bugs to get out of the system, and it is definitely lookin good.. im just tryin to understand it all so i know how it works... thanx again!!! now teach me! lol

 

on a mission to figure this out, i studied!!! i couldnt tell that the 2 freestyle runs on the website were different runs.... i assume you get the freestyle points the same or almost the same as xsba... if i were you B, i would try to go with somethin like OVERALL FREESTYLE and TECHNICAL.

example: take controlled wheelie, controlled stoppie, control burnout, and sickest trick.. make each one a 25 point maximum event.. 1st- 25 pts. 2nd-20 pts. etc. this way the four events equal up to 100 points... then throw all these events under the overall TECHNICAL catagory..take the scores from OVERALL FREESTYLE and OVERALL TECHNICAL and the average of the two will be the riders 100%OVERALL FINAL SCORE. this way noone is dodgin any bullets and gettin free rides if they aint doin it all... all bases would be covered and noone would have ANYTHING to bitch about! im prolly tellin you a bunch of **** you have known for a long time now though.. lol.. lata mayn!

 

I think this is a true comment but IMO, not until the sport gets recognition like dirt freestyle, although we all know what is what and who is who. It will make no differance to fans until they get to our level of understanding. Hell even in dirt, fans dont really care why there are 125, 250, whatever and most could give a rats *** that each of those classes has A, B and so forth classifications. Just a thought.

 

What you just said is pretty much the new way the scoring is going to be. I just wrote it all up last night. The concept behind the original system was this: Start with 40 riders, they compete in the 4 technical events and get an All-Around score. The top 15 go on to Finals. (So only the top 15 well-rounded advance).

Then in Finals, they compete in the most crowd pleasing events: freestyle & sickest trick. The final score only takes into account these two events. The All-Around score was only used to narrow down the field in qualifying.

If we would have had more well rounded riders show up for this event, then some of the guys that made it into the finals wouldn't have come close.

Now, in hindsight, I think that the final score should take into account every event that the competitors participated in. The new format I came up with will have 4 events in qualifying, each worth 25% of your All-Around score. Top 12 advance to finals. Finals consists of Freestyle only. Final score is your Freestyle score averaged with your All-Around score. What do you think about that.