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Old 08-05-2010, 05:43 AM
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636 Vs R6

So pretty much everyone in the UK is banging on about how great the b1h 636. It pulls really well on the idle and hass stronger subframe than the c1h.

Anyone know how this compares to the R6? and which year is best / and why...

I had an 03 R6 as a road bike and loved it, very responsive and brilliiant for endo's - was thinking about getting another to stunt.
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Re: 636 Vs R6

i rode an 03 r6 all set up and loved it , it pulled good on idle and had great throttle response but the subframes are made of crap , i have seen a few break on street bikes just from putting down a stoppie too hard and the stock clipons break super easy ..

i also seen a thread where a few people all had the fuel pump fall apart from a crash but they all said they just took it out and snapped it back together ..

i would ride one if i got a good deal i would just firm up or replace the subframe and i would get better clipons and probably take the fuel pump out and find a way to keep it from falling apart ..
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Re: 636 Vs R6

Cheers for that. What you doing up so early? or haven't you gone to bed yet?

yeah the fuel pump breaking would suck bad.

Do you know if the subframe has a weak spot or if they are just generally made of choclate?
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Re: 636 Vs R6

i have an 05 r6 and i love it wouldnt trade it for anything... the subframes are junk all around but i stunted mine for 3 years before it cracked then shattered but there are a few companies that make them if your getting a good deal on and R6 worth getting the subframe

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Re: 636 Vs R6

Originally Posted by JiggaStuntsAnR6
i have an 05 r6 and i love it wouldnt trade it for anything... the subframes are junk all around but i stunted mine for 3 years before it cracked then shattered but there are a few companies that make them if your getting a good deal on and R6 worth getting the subframe

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do you know the main differences between the 03 and 05? Doesn't the 05 have the fly-by-wire throttle thing?
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i dont even know what that is sorry
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Re: 636 Vs R6

I know the 05 forks are larger than the 03.

My 03 has 43mm and the 05 has 50mm or something.
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Re: 636 Vs R6

05 they changed to inverted 50mm forks with radial brakes but in 06 when the new r6 came out they changed back to the old front end.

You can easily put the new 06-10 front ends on r6 though, i have an 08 front end on mine.

the 07-10 (gold) front ends are 10mm longer then the 06 (black inverted) front ends

all yamaha 03+ r6 and 04+ r1 wheels fit in either bike, R1 wheel is lighter.

The brakes on the standard front end are 310MM - newer race model r6 and r1 has 320mm
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Re: 636 Vs R6

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i rode an 03 r6 all set up and loved it ,
i also seen a thread where a few people all had the fuel pump fall apart from a crash but they all said they just took it out and snapped it back together ..

i would ride one if i got a good deal i would just firm up or replace the subframe and i would get better clipons and probably take the fuel pump out and find a way to keep it from falling apart ..
The fuel pumps are mostly a bunch of plastic pieces that snap together. If they come apart it is an easy fix just to line it all up and snap it all back into place like you said.
Before anyone gets the idea to plastic weld or glue them all together I can tell you that they are nearly impossible to get out of the tank in 1 peace. Every time I have taken 1 out I had to un-snap the outer shell from the mounting base or pry the ever living **** out of them to get them out. They have a chunk that sticks off the side of it that makes them larger than the hole in the bottom of the tank.

With that said..... I loved my 05 that I had. Wish I did not have to sell it last year but I could not afford to keep it after I lost my job
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Re: 636 Vs R6

fuel pump problem...just take 3 stainless tec screws and screw em in to the clip points so it cant come apart unless u first remove the screws..

05 has bigger injectors, dual fan radiator and the front end and brakes were carried over from the R1.. other than that its the same bike tru all the years of the "S" model.

subs junk...just dont hit the tail and youll be fine..lol
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Re: 636 Vs R6

if you want to get really technical, the lower fairings are different also.

throttle bodies are larger too,
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Re: 636 Vs R6

s models are not fly by wire but even if you got a r model you can make a bracket to adjust your idle with a cable
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Re: 636 Vs R6

Originally Posted by NAARDEN INC
05 they changed to inverted 50mm forks with radial brakes but in 06 when the new r6 came out they changed back to the old front end.

You can easily put the new 06-10 front ends on r6 though, i have an 08 front end on mine.

the 07-10 (gold) front ends are 10mm longer then the 06 (black inverted) front ends

all yamaha 03+ r6 and 04+ r1 wheels fit in either bike, R1 wheel is lighter.

The brakes on the standard front end are 310MM - newer race model r6 and r1 has 320mm
yup....also 05 r6 was the only year they put bigger throttle bodies, better ecu and dual fans.

I've owned a 636 and have an 05 r6 now.....r6s are bittle. break alot of things easy, I bent my frame (broke a few heads and motors) thanks to a couple of pancakes lol r6 is fast pulls hard as hell. yamaha has the best brakes around. so r6 for the win.
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05 R6 for life
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Re: 636 Vs R6

like my r6 much better than both my 636's and i loved those bikes alot.
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Re: 636 Vs R6

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like my r6 much better than both my 636's and i loved those bikes alot.

i did pick up that extra tank.... u should see this baller *** dent i got going on
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Re: 636 Vs R6

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yup....also 05 r6 was the only year they put bigger throttle bodies, better ecu and dual fans.

I've owned a 636 and have an 05 r6 now.....r6s are bittle. break alot of things easy, I bent my frame (broke a few heads and motors) thanks to a couple of pancakes lol r6 is fast pulls hard as hell. yamaha has the best brakes around. so r6 for the win.
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forgot about the front motor mount issue they are in a very weak part of the motor and break pretty easy
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Re: 636 Vs R6

I have wanted an 05 r6 bad for a long time....
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Re: 636 Vs R6

Damn! Should have got my *** an 05 R6 instead of my 03.
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Re: 636 Vs R6

best thing I did gettin the 636 but I heard the 05 r6 is the other bike to have. My
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