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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Im getting scared, i might go sit in a corner and start crying
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cost me $900 to make 50 shirts


were they made with solid gold printing????? $18 a shirt they must've been some pretty spectacular shirts, someone post a pic of this shirt I gotta see this.

nah....no solid gold.....they were some gangster shirts tho.....really high end tshirt, plus 3 colors (set up charge of $28 for each screen for each color) and when you only run 50 shirts you dont get any kinda price break, plus you pay more for each color on each shirt . So after you buy the more expensive shirts, pay the set up fees and art fees and and only order 50 shirts AND tell them you need a rush order, you are right around $900
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Re: I hate Kane

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nah....no solid gold.....they were some gangster shirts tho.....really high end tshirt, plus 3 colors (set up charge of $28 for each screen for each color) and when you only run 50 shirts you dont get any kinda price break, plus you pay more for each color on each shirt . So after you buy the more expensive shirts, pay the set up fees and art fees and and only order 50 shirts AND tell them you need a rush order, you are right around $900
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Re: I hate Kane

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nah....no solid gold.....they were some gangster shirts tho.....really high end tshirt, plus 3 colors (set up charge of $28 for each screen for each color) and when you only run 50 shirts you dont get any kinda price break, plus you pay more for each color on each shirt . So after you buy the more expensive shirts, pay the set up fees and art fees and and only order 50 shirts AND tell them you need a rush order, you are right around $900
You're getting fucked. This was probably a high volume place that screws people with smaller orders.
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Re: I hate Kane

anyone else notice the accused didint touch the subject with a 10ft pole even though they had plenty else to say?
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by RROCCO
anyone else notice the accused didint touch the subject with a 10ft pole even though they had plenty else to say?
the accused? hahaha i have the Sony L-VX2000 sitting in my office. haha. first its like some 4 year old sweet drama right here!!.. longs story short the owner of the camera Pauly LVX owed myself and a friend some 3500+ dollars for months and was screwing us. we were at apex's house my friend keith saw the camera and jacked that it hoping pauly would pay some of what he owed us to get it back.. he never did.. wack *** beat old camera is still sitting on my office shelf.. lol..

-kane
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by Kaneone
the accused? hahaha i have the Sony L-VX2000 sitting in my office. haha. first its like some 4 year old sweet drama right here!!.. longs story short the owner of the camera Pauly LVX owed myself and a friend some 3500+ dollars for months and was screwing us. we were at apex's house my friend keith saw the camera and jacked that it hoping pauly would pay some of what he owed us to get it back.. he never did.. wack *** beat old camera is still sitting on my office shelf.. lol..

-kane
+1 on the Camera being gay... Sony is like the 4th string quarterback... They ******* blow ***.... atleast thats my opinion, ive never had luck with sony
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by Kaneone
the accused? hahaha i have the Sony L-VX2000 sitting in my office. haha. first its like some 4 year old sweet drama right here!!.. longs story short the owner of the camera Pauly LVX owed myself and a friend some 3500+ dollars for months and was screwing us. we were at apex's house my friend keith saw the camera and jacked that it hoping pauly would pay some of what he owed us to get it back.. he never did.. wack *** beat old camera is still sitting on my office shelf.. lol..

-kane


You allowed yourself to be in the same air space as Pauly?????? you just lost 2 more cool points, but I'll give you 1 cool point back for stealing the camera because the douche owed you money.... that makes it OK.
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Re: I hate Kane

here's my late entry for my two pence...

kane's my boy, kane's pushed the sport beyond what it could have gone (in the same time frame) with just competitions. Kane can ride and ride well, I would put him up against pretty much anyone. Kane deserves and has certainly earned imo, all the respect that i give him. he doesn't even need to compete to do what he does and that's a fact, yet he does still support, does still show up, does still compete...and at a relatively high level, so let's put that argument to rest because it's beat and it's old and it evokes bitterness from the person making it.

i know kane personally and professionally, and while i dont always agree with him, his position, or his actions, i will always respect him and will always consider him a friend, and someone who would go that extra mile for me.

now, i also am friends with nick and ernie, and pretty much everyone for that matter, and i understand where they are coming from and their desire to push....i have that same desire and drive (as does kane, i assure you). i dare say i am probably one of the very few people to 'make it' simply based upon my abilities on a motorcycle, period. i did everything i did while maintaining a full time job and full time 'other' life...however, that is not what today's game is. today you must be a very good rider and a very good business man...most riders are one or the other, the ones who combine both are very recognizeable for the most part.

the level of riding HAS stepped up, in the sense that MANY MORE riders can routinely do things once considered outta hand just two years ago. however, what still has failed to develop as quickly as the technical skill is the style and individuality of the riders - everyone is simply tryhing to be someone else and just 'lock down' this trick or that trick. many riders do things i cannot do or simply do not want to do, yet i can guarantee you i am still a better rider and will still probably beat them in a contest...not because i'm a 'name' but because its not ALL about the trick, EVEN in competition, it's about the style, the flow, AND the difficulty...most riders have the ONE thing that you can acquire simply by man hours, and that is difficulty. sure, style comes with time (sometimes) and flow does as well, but funny how most still don't have it, yet a lot of guys have the most difficult tricks. my point is similar to kanes: he most definitely has the ability to learn those fig 8 hc o's, the ability is simply a matter of time, the question, however is the important part...and the question is 'is it worth it for me?'...sometimes the question is 'no, not right now'.

to apply this directly to myself: i don't do a lot of tricks, but do any of you really doubt that i could lock fig 8 hc o's if i really decided to? i'm 100% confident i could do it IF i wanted to (that is still TBD). shizzit, 95% of the hard tricks done today i was doing a handful of years ago (minus the jump stuff). HC o's? back in 04 on the 636. so, my point is that the difficulty of this stuff is attainable with practice. can kane do it? ya. will he? if he feels he needs it. i don't feel i need fig 8 HC o's to win contets, bc i feel the other aspects of my riding are superior to what others do, but that's just MY opinion...and speaking of opinion, thats WHAT judging is whether its 2004 or 2010.

now, all that being said, i'm kind of lost at this point myself, so i think both sides are valid, i just think kane needs to be shown more respect as a rider...and both 'his agent' and myself push him to continue to develop the latest and greatest tricks, just like every other stunna out there.

one final thought and something that is often overlooked...everybody wants to be in his (and i'm sure mine's) position, but i am quite sure that most don't know entirely what that takes, or even would be capable of handling it. there is much, much, much more to riding bikes professionally than actually riding the bikes, but consider this: how many riders in stuntwars or xdl are on current model bikes? very few, most are on 636's and f4i's. it took my buddy colton about a year to switch from kawis to updated hondas and he is on his game...every consider what its like to actually have to switch bikes to a current model every single year? put every single rider on a 2007 model year and up, and i think you'll see some funny things.

now, the final wrap up...none ofd this was directed at anybody, so if you think it was, you are wrong...i'm down with makingmoney, riding bikes, pushing limits, travelling, making friends, etc and i do it ALL!

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Re: I hate Kane

way to put it to bed kane.


i think teach summed it up pretty good. most things nowadays are more about the marketing then the skill.
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by RROCCO
way to put it to bed kane.


i think teach summed it up pretty good. most things nowadays are more about the marketing then the skill.
thanks, but my point wasn't that its more about the skill than marketing...my point was its BOTH, and anyone who is successful today DOES BOTH.

it is nice, however, to see that skill DOES play a role in sponsorship, and you DO have to be able to ride at a high level to earn new sponsors,e tc.

i'm going riding!
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i completely agree. what im saying is in different industries way back whenever, there wasnt nearly as much competition so the skills spoke for themselves and there wasnt as much a need to market ones self. nowadays theres so many people with the skills that the marketing is what makes the difference.
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by Frankenstein929
+1 on the Camera being gay... Sony is like the 4th string quarterback... They ******* blow ***.... atleast thats my opinion, ive never had luck with sony
no argument with that statement
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Re: I hate Kane

I'd gladly take that "GAY" camera off your hands, I'll even pay shipping
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by evilkeithxetp
i'd gladly take that "gay" camera off your hands, i'll even pay shipping
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by YSRRider
You allowed yourself to be in the same air space as Pauly?????? you just lost 2 more cool points, but I'll give you 1 cool point back for stealing the camera because the douche owed you money.... that makes it OK.
if you werent such a squid you would know that kane started riding with pauly (LVX).

i see you still havent stopped being a doucher.
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by YSRRider
but I'll give you 1 cool point back for stealing the camera because the douche owed you money.... that makes it OK.
Have you read this whole thread? How can you say it's ok when, I could be wrong here, but NICK was the one liable for that camera and had to pay that 1500.00 out of his own pocket... So in my opinion... Kane owes Nick 1500.00 and Pauly still owes Kane whatever he owes him...

If Kane (or keith) stole the camera directly from Pauly, I would say ok, that's just karma and life's a bitch, but they didn't..... My

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Kane's my dawg now..
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by TEACH C6
here's my late entry for my two pence...

kane's my boy, kane's pushed the sport beyond what it could have gone (in the same time frame) with just competitions. Kane can ride and ride well, I would put him up against pretty much anyone. Kane deserves and has certainly earned imo, all the respect that i give him. he doesn't even need to compete to do what he does and that's a fact, yet he does still support, does still show up, does still compete...and at a relatively high level, so let's put that argument to rest because it's beat and it's old and it evokes bitterness from the person making it.

i know kane personally and professionally, and while i dont always agree with him, his position, or his actions, i will always respect him and will always consider him a friend, and someone who would go that extra mile for me.

now, i also am friends with nick and ernie, and pretty much everyone for that matter, and i understand where they are coming from and their desire to push....i have that same desire and drive (as does kane, i assure you). i dare say i am probably one of the very few people to 'make it' simply based upon my abilities on a motorcycle, period. i did everything i did while maintaining a full time job and full time 'other' life...however, that is not what today's game is. today you must be a very good rider and a very good business man...most riders are one or the other, the ones who combine both are very recognizeable for the most part.

the level of riding HAS stepped up, in the sense that MANY MORE riders can routinely do things once considered outta hand just two years ago. however, what still has failed to develop as quickly as the technical skill is the style and individuality of the riders - everyone is simply tryhing to be someone else and just 'lock down' this trick or that trick. many riders do things i cannot do or simply do not want to do, yet i can guarantee you i am still a better rider and will still probably beat them in a contest...not because i'm a 'name' but because its not ALL about the trick, EVEN in competition, it's about the style, the flow, AND the difficulty...most riders have the ONE thing that you can acquire simply by man hours, and that is difficulty. sure, style comes with time (sometimes) and flow does as well, but funny how most still don't have it, yet a lot of guys have the most difficult tricks. my point is similar to kanes: he most definitely has the ability to learn those fig 8 hc o's, the ability is simply a matter of time, the question, however is the important part...and the question is 'is it worth it for me?'...sometimes the question is 'no, not right now'.

to apply this directly to myself: i don't do a lot of tricks, but do any of you really doubt that i could lock fig 8 hc o's if i really decided to? i'm 100% confident i could do it IF i wanted to (that is still TBD). shizzit, 95% of the hard tricks done today i was doing a handful of years ago (minus the jump stuff). HC o's? back in 04 on the 636. so, my point is that the difficulty of this stuff is attainable with practice. can kane do it? ya. will he? if he feels he needs it. i don't feel i need fig 8 HC o's to win contets, bc i feel the other aspects of my riding are superior to what others do, but that's just MY opinion...and speaking of opinion, thats WHAT judging is whether its 2004 or 2010.

now, all that being said, i'm kind of lost at this point myself, so i think both sides are valid, i just think kane needs to be shown more respect as a rider...and both 'his agent' and myself push him to continue to develop the latest and greatest tricks, just like every other stunna out there.

one final thought and something that is often overlooked...everybody wants to be in his (and i'm sure mine's) position, but i am quite sure that most don't know entirely what that takes, or even would be capable of handling it. there is much, much, much more to riding bikes professionally than actually riding the bikes, but consider this: how many riders in stuntwars or xdl are on current model bikes? very few, most are on 636's and f4i's. it took my buddy colton about a year to switch from kawis to updated hondas and he is on his game...every consider what its like to actually have to switch bikes to a current model every single year? put every single rider on a 2007 model year and up, and i think you'll see some funny things.

now, the final wrap up...none ofd this was directed at anybody, so if you think it was, you are wrong...i'm down with makingmoney, riding bikes, pushing limits, travelling, making friends, etc and i do it ALL!

braaap

you make a good point..but heres mine and alot of peps from stuntlife feel the same i think.....

your teach...of course kanes gonna be cool to you..your an icon in this sport...he comes on here talkin like the only reason he cant outride jorian is cuz he doesnt really feel like it....please...just cuz you could learn hc O's quick doesnt mean he can...the differane between you and him..you SAID IT YOURSELF natural bike talent.........kinda like mana..you dont need to sell yourself you riding does that for itself....kane however is nowwhere near that level and bashed the guys who are, quoteing his salary like a bigger tax return makes you a better stunter......
its like wwf and ufc...yes im sure the stars from wwi put in alot of time...help promote there sport, but you hear those guys comming on tv saying if they wanted to they would train a lil more and kick jsp *** they just dont cuz theres more money s wwf.......please...and thats basically what his pink *** is tring to say

gotta earn respect to get it
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Re: I hate Kane

Originally Posted by Kaneone
the accused? hahaha i have the Sony L-VX2000 sitting in my office. haha. first its like some 4 year old sweet drama right here!!.. longs story short the owner of the camera Pauly LVX owed myself and a friend some 3500+ dollars for months and was screwing us. we were at apex's house my friend keith saw the camera and jacked that it hoping pauly would pay some of what he owed us to get it back.. he never did.. wack *** beat old camera is still sitting on my office shelf.. lol..

-kane
ummmmmm if thats realy why you took it then why didnt you just tell apex and pauly at the time instead of letting apex take the blame



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