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how do you boys steer stoppies.. i dont wanna learn 180 i just wanna know how to keep the rear end behind the bike and not in front of it........... im getting them high but i have to drop them lower to get some steering back

please any tips would be good

 

you dont make sense.. the higher it is the EASIER it is to steer. whatever side the tail it pulling out push all your weight on the same side handlebar,

 

aaaaaaaar its hard to steer when im up high coz im doing it wrong


thanks man

 

Prevent it from kicking out, make sure the bike is perfectly straight and that your wieght is centered over the bike, then bring it up. Just that might help you from even kicking the bike to one side, but if it does it, shift your wieght to correct and keep going

 

well if your at balancepoint and your actually riding a endo , steering is done by applying pressure to your handle bars...pushing down on one side and letting up on the other..ex. if u push down on the left clipon u will go left, right.u will go right............

 

I had the same problem a while back here is what somebody told me and it did fix my problem!!!!!!!
1) You got to have perfect posture. Knees tight. Equal pressure on the arms. Everything has to be perfect.
2) Do not go for 70mph stoppies. Start at 45mph and dont go faster till the subframe is above your head. This will ensure you got the height. Trust me height is everything in this game. You dont get the height in one session. It takes TIME. Be ready to practice 4 times week/ 2hrs a day. Once you have the height then you can steer. Videotaping is a must.
3) Practice, Practice, Practice
4) If you think you've practiced enough go practice some more.


One day you will wake up and go practice and that problem will go .

 

Well put, I like the practice practice practice part, that's what it's gonna take, good advice.

 

+1

 

that is not totally true , i find that in order to turn right you must first turn the bars to the left to get the bike leaning in the right direction then apply pressure to the right clip on to maintain the turn..

its like when you are just riding on two wheels in order to turn right you first turn the bars left to get the bike to lean right then you just maintain the turn ...

i know that sounds funny but go ride your bike and pay close attention to the pressure you put on your clipons while entering a turn when your just riding normal......

 

its true. thats the first thing they teach you in roadracing school too. if you are entering a turn to start or dip into the turn you first push the bar the opposite way to start it.

like say you are going into a right hand turn youpush you right clipon out or pull your left one in and it will make you dip in right.

go out and try it youll see what we are talking about.



and for the guy who has him doing a christ air in his avator, illegal_skillz I think it is. who are you to give advice can you even roll endos.....

 

ok u explained it better,more indepth..tech ur right.......i would say put some pressure on the clipons and u will feel ur way..is what i meant to say

 

Initially, If you push on the left clip-on, you will veer right. Push on the right, you will veer left. But once you start turning, you will have to counter it with pressure. So if you're rolling straight and want to veer left, you initially put pressure on the right clip-on, then as it starts to lean and turn, you're gonna need to counter it with pressure on the left clip-on. And depending on how sharp you are angled, sometimes ALOT of pressure(push) to keep it going.

 

thats pretty much it morrow

 

think of it like this....

if your going straight on two wheels and you just turn your bars left the bike will just tip over to the right so first you turn the bars so the bike starts to tip over but then you counter and keep the bike up while turning

 

turning the bars left and pushing on the right clip-on is saying the same thing, you just make it sound more confusing for beginners.... morrow hit it on the head the first time

 

So you want to know how to balance endos from side to side rather than steer them? Well that is done by leaning the opposite way that the rear end is falling. If the tail starts to swing to the right, lean left; and vise versa.
If you're rolling at speed and don't have a very stiff steering damper, you don't want to be turning the front wheel. Keep your arms locked while leaning.
The principle is the same as balancing wheelies from side to side. However, it is opposite because when rolling endos, your body is in front of the balance point rather than behind it. Leaning to the right during a wheeling pivots the whole bike to the right. Leaning to the right during an endo pivots the bike to the left.

 

i dont have a damper so it dose start to do the tank slapper thing

but thts for the other advice

 

no damper? Then STOP doing endo's!


Them tank slapper things QUICKLY and without warning turn into you going down..

I got them 'tank slapper' things about 50 times, before finally I got tossed at about 30mph

 

thats not right at all. if your rolling a stoppie and the tail comes out the left and u lean right you will push on right bar and it will steer it to the right furthering the tail comming out. u have to lean into the direction of the tail swing, i forgot who it was a long time ago, matt gorka mayebe, said in order to correct stoppies(keep them straight) u need to let your head follow the tail. meaning steer into whatever way the tail leans.

 

its called counter steering and they've taught it at race school for 50 years.... i know ths isn't racing but the physics still apply. Pressure on one clip on more than the other sometimes IS enough to get the the bike to counter steer. Just don't make DRASTIC MOVEMENTS on the front tire until you are somewhat used to it. I've seen people over counter steer into the dirt at races SOOOO many times. Look at pictures of AC Farius, his wheel is ALWAYS cocked in the opposite direction of where he is turning. Good Luck!