WHY DID SCARY GARY and......
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us otwn guys r still riding in mass quantities.... jobs and other stuff have been occupying me.... i may not be some big named rider or well known but we have a family down here that enjoys riding... ur more than welcome to come and check it out... but dont judge otown on guys that quit... gary is doing his thing and thats that...
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That's awesome if it was all like that but, why am I hearing then from the guys right next to him.... Quote JUST PRODUCING:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
This is where I'm getting my arguement. Money money money, greed greed greed, and selfishness. If this is not true the why doesn't someone chime in and say it, and I'll take back everything I have said reguarding his reasons for quiting, how I think it's garbage, and give him nothing but props.
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
This is where I'm getting my arguement. Money money money, greed greed greed, and selfishness. If this is not true the why doesn't someone chime in and say it, and I'll take back everything I have said reguarding his reasons for quiting, how I think it's garbage, and give him nothing but props.

Here is where I'm getting a little bit of my generalization, don't know who exactly he's talking about but it's more than Gary if you see all the "those" and "they's" in there. I'm not just imagineing this, I would like to know who he's refering to too. MORON..
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gary has already quit and you still havent seen all the tricks hes done because otown throw down isnt out yet.....and u can call all the guys from otown lame quiters but your still gonna have to buy the video when it comes out cause all those quiters just took this sport to a new level before they threw in the towel....maybe once the otown guys see the rest of the sport catch back up to them they will make a comeback....
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gary has already quit and you still havent seen all the tricks hes done because otown throw down isnt out yet.....and u can call all the guys from otown lame quiters but your still gonna have to buy the video when it comes out cause all those quiters just took this sport to a new level before they threw in the towel....maybe once the otown guys see the rest of the sport catch back up to them they will make a comeback....
like i said though, those quotes are from other people not gary...don't beleive everything you see unless you know the source is true...
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Right but these are Gary's friends, fellow riders, team or whatever, who support him and have been riding or filming for him, Isn't that as close of a source you can get? I have yet to hear someone defend him and saying this wasn't because of more money and paying sponsors for his reason for quiting. If they came in here and said he had a kid and was starting a family, or was starting a new carrier that took away the riding time to continue, I would have said sic riding while you were here and good luck..
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all you guys are lucky to even have spots... i'd pay to have as much ride time as most of you get... i'm lucky to get 5 hrs a sunday... hawaii is the worst place to stunt... even the spots we have isn't nearly as big as the mainland spots... jus be happy that you guys are able to ride when you can... cause down here jus plain out sucks...
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Right but these are Gary's friends, fellow riders, team or whatever, who support him and have been riding or filming for him, Isn't that as close of a source you can get? I have yet to hear someone defend him and saying this wasn't because of more money and paying sponsors for his reason for quiting. If they came in here and said he had a kid and was starting a family, or was starting a new carrier that took away the riding time to continue, I would have said sic riding while you were here and good luck..
dude these people are on the other side of the country... your my boy mikee... but seriously just stop... its not worth it to get yourself all mad over some people that you dont even know who gives a ****...
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Right but these are Gary's friends, fellow riders, team or whatever, who support him and have been riding or filming for him, Isn't that as close of a source you can get? I have yet to hear someone defend him and saying this wasn't because of more money and paying sponsors for his reason for quiting. If they came in here and said he had a kid and was starting a family, or was starting a new carrier that took away the riding time to continue, I would have said sic riding while you were here and good luck..
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I really dont see what all the big deal is about? Gary rarely did comps, and when he did, he either got screwed out of money or didnt place where he should have. He got 3rd at Stunt Wars only to get beat out of 2nd by someone who wrecked 2 times in their run.
So, you really only saw Gary ride in dvds or at the spot in Florida. If you dont live in Florida then nothing has changed. You can watch him all day in the Stunt Shine State dvd.
So, you really only saw Gary ride in dvds or at the spot in Florida. If you dont live in Florida then nothing has changed. You can watch him all day in the Stunt Shine State dvd.
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Thank you, he just doesn't get it. He is hung up and picking at this and just keeps making himself look like a jackass.
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i will say that gary never did give 2 ***** about comps it was me of all people pushing him to enter the comps that he did ride in. we went to kentucky and he did not want to enter just to give us (his friends) a better chance at winning something. We have traveled alot mostly to free rides to have fun and hang out with friends that you do not get to see everyday because i personally have a better time doing those then entering any lame biased comp. I entered stuntwars just to pull off some sweet danglers because i dont give a **** about a trophy or prize money. i have been to sacremento to hang out with friends and as far as baltimore for a free ride and atleast 10 trips to Atlanta (8 hours) just to street ride with friends in the past few months. Gary was also in the tv thing with Alex flores, teach, kane, kendoll where he came in 3 because they all agreed not to do certain tricks because they knew gary could have taken them out pretty quick for the tricks he was pulling off then. he took kane out pretty quick. then alex said **** the agreement and took gary out. Teach kept his word and paid out like he said he would. Any more details you would like to know. just ask and i will try my best to fill in the blanks 

Both these points were said in this thread and want to know which is the truth. If it's cuz of money and sponsors I loose respect for the guy and what he did on his bike, being that he didn't really try to put himself out there and get them. If it's because of other personal reasons noting but love for the guy and all the sic **** he did on his bike.
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I'm just trying to figure out what the truth of the story is since there were 2 completely different stories his buddies sources or whatever, that I can't get a strait answer on like I just asked about to suicidl above.
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i have said this to a few people; it always seemed to me that gary rode for fun, because he enjoyed riding, not for anything he was trying to accomplish. i think alot of people put alot of undue pressure on him to be something he never wanted to be and that made it not so fun for him anymore.
gary seems like the kind of rider (and we all know someone like this) who is a local, rides the same spot every day or so, and could give two **** what the rest of the world is doing. he just happens to be naturally gifted. i don't think if you could do a search for his posts you would find any from gary himself that he was pushing the sport or doing all these big and wonderful things, those posts were from other people...
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this is probably the most true description of gary i have ever heard......i myself do not know everyone of gary's reasons for quiting i dont know if anyone does.....but u you (MIKEY) talk about it all being money money money when the fact is if you wanna travel around the country and be the best in the world and compete everywhere you need alot of money to do it and gary was barely able to support his parking lot riding.....starting to get it? plus like southtown said gary never wanted to compete or get a big name and in fact almost every video of gary i ever posted he didnt even know about until after the thread started blowing up on here....gary never asked me once to put him on the internet or in my video he just liked to hit the lots and ride with his buddies and then people started hating because gary got so much props but never competed like the rest of the guys (that doesnt mean he doesnt deserve props)
As I read it it seemed that there were two different stories.. One of him being bored with it and accomplished his goals. The other came from you saying:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
There seemed to be a little bullshit between those two stories and am trying to figure out which one is the truth. I took what you said into more consideration because you filmed for him and made the OTown vids. From what you said you made gary sound like he was hating on money and sponsors for his skills, if that isn't the truth or what you said above ment something else pleas enlighten me, cuz the only negative thing I have aginst the guy is because of what you said about him in quotes above.
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The name of this thread is WHY DID SCARY GARY AND OTHERS QUIT.
As I read it it seemed that there were two different stories.. One of him being bored with it and accomplished his goals. The other came from you saying:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
There seemed to be a little bullshit between those two stories and am trying to figure out which one is the truth. I took what you said into more consideration because you filmed for him and made the OTown vids. From what you said you made gary sound like he was hating on money and sponsors for his skills, if that isn't the truth or what you said above ment something else pleas enlighten me, cuz the only negative thing I have aginst the guy is because of what you said about him in quotes above.
As I read it it seemed that there were two different stories.. One of him being bored with it and accomplished his goals. The other came from you saying:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
There seemed to be a little bullshit between those two stories and am trying to figure out which one is the truth. I took what you said into more consideration because you filmed for him and made the OTown vids. From what you said you made gary sound like he was hating on money and sponsors for his skills, if that isn't the truth or what you said above ment something else pleas enlighten me, cuz the only negative thing I have aginst the guy is because of what you said about him in quotes above.
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The name of this thread is WHY DID SCARY GARY AND OTHERS QUIT.
As I read it it seemed that there were two different stories.. One of him being bored with it and accomplished his goals. The other came from you saying:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
There seemed to be a little bullshit between those two stories and am trying to figure out which one is the truth. I took what you said into more consideration because you filmed for him and made the OTown vids. From what you said you made gary sound like he was hating on money and sponsors for his skills, if that isn't the truth or what you said above ment something else pleas enlighten me, cuz the only negative thing I have aginst the guy is because of what you said about him in quotes above.
As I read it it seemed that there were two different stories.. One of him being bored with it and accomplished his goals. The other came from you saying:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
There seemed to be a little bullshit between those two stories and am trying to figure out which one is the truth. I took what you said into more consideration because you filmed for him and made the OTown vids. From what you said you made gary sound like he was hating on money and sponsors for his skills, if that isn't the truth or what you said above ment something else pleas enlighten me, cuz the only negative thing I have aginst the guy is because of what you said about him in quotes above.
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it was not about the money and sponsors. he did get some of both. it is more like a dead end job that he knew was not going to go anywhere. this so called sport will never go anywhere. it is fun as hell to ride with your friends but from a spectators stand point it is boring as hell to watch if you are not into it 

but lots a of acro, rev limiters, loud noises and burnouts will keep ANY crowd happy.
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The name of this thread is WHY DID SCARY GARY AND OTHERS QUIT.
As I read it it seemed that there were two different stories.. One of him being bored with it and accomplished his goals. The other came from you saying:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
There seemed to be a little bullshit between those two stories and am trying to figure out which one is the truth. I took what you said into more consideration because you filmed for him and made the OTown vids. From what you said you made gary sound like he was hating on money and sponsors for his skills, if that isn't the truth or what you said above ment something else pleas enlighten me, cuz the only negative thing I have aginst the guy is because of what you said about him in quotes above.
As I read it it seemed that there were two different stories.. One of him being bored with it and accomplished his goals. The other came from you saying:
"im sure if you were doing hundreds of new tricks that pros havent even tryed or thought of and you werent getting 1 penny from it youd consider quiting also."
There seemed to be a little bullshit between those two stories and am trying to figure out which one is the truth. I took what you said into more consideration because you filmed for him and made the OTown vids. From what you said you made gary sound like he was hating on money and sponsors for his skills, if that isn't the truth or what you said above ment something else pleas enlighten me, cuz the only negative thing I have aginst the guy is because of what you said about him in quotes above.
no matter what garys reasons are for quitting its really none of your ****** business....nor is it any of mine which is why if you dont have anything positive to say about his desicion keep your mouth shut......just because your good at something doesnt mean you have to live up to everyone elses expectations.....even the people who are pros making mad money could still learn a thing or two from gary so what does that say?
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it was not about the money and sponsors. he did get some of both. it is more like a dead end job that he knew was not going to go anywhere. this so called sport will never go anywhere. it is fun as hell to ride with your friends but from a spectators stand point it is boring as hell to watch if you are not into it 

well eighther way i think we just got our answer FINALLY if wat u say is true then GARY QUIT because he viewed this as a potential oppertunity to make lots of cash and when he saw that wasnt the case.....
HE QUIT!!! thx 4 clearing it all up bro!!
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it was not about the money and sponsors. he did get some of both. it is more like a dead end job that he knew was not going to go anywhere. this so called sport will never go anywhere. it is fun as hell to ride with your friends but from a spectators stand point it is boring as hell to watch if you are not into it 

Don't know what spectators watch you, but time after time I hear, "you guys are amazing what you can do on your bikes, never seen anything like that before, thanks for the show it was a treat." Was something I can't forget coming from a middle aged woman. Of course the kids love it. The last show we were pulling cars off the street to come watch as they saw what we were doing. It all depends on the people I guess, but from my experience the every day joe schmoe at any age love it. Maybe just the people in FL suck... Heard you were talking about coming out to the best side?? You should think about it cuz no one likes a quitter..
Last edited by mikkee; Aug 31, 2007 at 03:40 PM.
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no matter what garys reasons are for quitting its really none of your ****** business....nor is it any of mine which is why if you dont have anything positive to say about his desicion keep your mouth shut......just because your good at something doesnt mean you have to live up to everyone elses expectations.....even the people who are pros making mad money could still learn a thing or two from gary so what does that say?
Never said he nor do I think anyone who is good HAS to do **** to push this sport. If that's the case from the begining then why the **** do you take the little bit soponsors and money he was getting just to go **** off with his friends and have fun??? What a waist of time, money and talent to those who helped him out.
Reguardless if he has a bunch of sic innovative tricks or not and whether anyone of the pro's see them or not, this sport will keep growing and doing what it is doing whether he ever got on a bike or not.
Props for what he could do on a bike though, it was sic while it lasted.









