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Old 04-05-2007, 05:44 PM
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can't stunt worth a crap but you guys have some good opinions so i'm posting this here too. allright i lowered my 06' f4i 3/4" in the front so it would steer quicker, and none in the rear. after riding it a while and turin up the wick i'm starting to drag hard parts too easily. so i need to raise it some (10mm). i have no triple stand, no rafters, trees, or any other means of supporting the front end and there's no chance i'm going to pay the idiot stealership. do you guys have any recomendations on how i can do this? i'm going riding this weekend and hittin the twisties. i need to get this done asap. thanks, also is it allright to run 4 quarts of oil (1/2 quart over) if i'm gonna start taking my whoolies seriously. i've got standstill burnouts down. BWAHAHA! i promise to practice my clutch whoolies now :YEAH

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Old 04-05-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

why did you lower it to turn faster? your supposed to raise it up so you can lean farther. Find somebody with stands that knows what they are doing
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

lowering the front is the poor mans method for quicker turn-in and steering, but you lose some ground clearance and your bike becomes a little twitchier. i'm not goin to the track anytime soon so i don't need to raise the rear. don't need that much ground clearance for the street.
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

Your not suspossed to steer into corners
you lean into them
stop blaming the bike and practice
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:09 PM
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

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Your not suspossed to steer into corners
you lean into them
stop blaming the bike and practice
ummmm dont you counter steer in corners to lean the bike????
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nah man, i've been riding for 7 years. the f4i feels like a pig in corners. i know you only steer in parking lots. i came of of an 00' r6. it was twichy but corned like a ***** fuka. the f4i is a better bike imo, i'm just tryin to set up it up to have r6 cornering manners. btw, my ole' lady's maiden name is rizo. italians got some fiery tempers
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

Originally Posted by nnrider
ummmm dont you counter steer in corners to lean the bike????
only thing you can do is lay it on its side mark where you have to move it to and go at it. thats the easiest way with the resources that you have.
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

Originally Posted by nnrider
ummmm dont you counter steer in corners to lean the bike????
yeah for a left turn im going to turn my clipons right and lean left!
No counter steer here. This isn't tokyo drift!
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

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nah man, i've been riding for 7 years. the f4i feels like a pig in corners. i know you only steer in parking lots. i came of of an 00' r6. it was twichy but corned like a ***** fuka. the f4i is a better bike imo, i'm just tryin to set up it up to have r6 cornering manners. btw, my ole' lady's maiden name is rizo. italians got some fiery tempers
change out the forks for 954 should be in help and how to
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

Rizo, if you are in the middle of a corner you do have to put preesure on the inside bar to chage your line or achive morn lean angle
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

Originally Posted by jayrizo
yeah for a left turn im going to turn my clipons right and lean left!
No counter steer here. This isn't tokyo drift!
too bad those two are out for a few weeks with injury. maybe they should have read this before the race
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ummmmm it is how learned to ride... and not in a school but guys that loved the twistys...
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/school-SectionFiveB.htm
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

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Rizo, if you are in the middle of a corner you do have to put preesure on the inside bar to chage your line or achive morn lean angle
that does work but thats also how tank slappers happen. to change my line i just let a little pressure off the inside bar
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

whatever it takes to get through the corner. nobody rides exactly the same:YEAH
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

This is got to be the biggest collection of unexperience I've seen in a while... J/K...

Seriously though.. just get sizzor jack floor jack anything you got and a piece of 2X4 and raise the bike up by the header.. then lower the forks back down...

I mean come on I've changed clip ons and tires at the lot by having a friend pick the front end up while on the kickstand ( you know pull on the right side of frame while standing on the left and let the bike rest on rear tire and kickstand only) So many differant ways to achieve what you are trying to do without any special tools...
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

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whatever it takes to get through the corner. nobody rides exactly the same:YEAH

I always countersteer too.. everyone out there does ,but when you first start ridining like some of these guys you argue and don't even realize when your going fast if you turn the wheel slightly right the bike will go left... It's physics... if you turn left and lean left at that high of speeds.. your going to have problems mang
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^^^^this guy can practically do it all right at the spot!
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

you got a rear stand?
put the rear up and stick a jack under the headers under the support. loosen the forks at the lower triples first, then when u raise it a little bit loosen the top triple, jack it up a lil more n lower ur forks to the original height mark, u should have a mark from factory hright. tighten everything up, wrap it up, check the bolts again, go down the street n around the corner n check ur bolts again
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

i used a stack of 3 or 4 2x4 for the longest time on my busa untill i stop being cheap and bought some stands. use your headers that what there their 4.
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Re: help a bandwaggoner out

if you really want to be ghetto, have some1 prop it sideways using the kickstand, like you would turn the bike on the kickstand. and u are someone else raise that **** back up.
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