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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Idle Discrepancy?

I have a question about Idle and was hoping it could be answered here. If you have huge gearing let's say +15 or +20 versus nearly stock gearing are you going to need to run higher idle for the stock gearing and lower idle for the huge gearing? My thought on this was that if you run nearly stock gearing you are going to need to run a high idle so the bike doesn't stall out while in a wheelie. But my friend thinks you will be able to run a lower idle with nearly stock gears while wheeling. Or does it not even matter at all? I'm +14 over all on my '01 Gsxr 6 and run an idle of 2000 for everything except no handers, so really I have no idea and just like to argue with my friend . So leave your and I'll filter thru all the BullS**t. Also I know you don't need idle at all and can wheelie just by using throttle and rear brake control.
Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

its been my experience that the less gearing you have the lower you run the idle...

EXAMPLE:

636 w/ +10 i run around 2,500

636 STOCK i run 2,000

Gsxr 1000 stock i ran 1,700 or so...


Im sure people will have differing opinions... rock whatever makes you comfortable!!!
Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

Ok, so it would seem I am wrong about this one. Damn.
Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

Thanks man, I try to squid it up as much as possible, but have to remember that squiddigeness is not ok.
Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

its all just a conspiracy created by the same people who faked the moon landing
Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

basic mathematics and basic kyle woods theory

stock sprockets the bike stalls at 800 rpms 8 mph
big sprockets the bike stalls at 800 rpms 1 or 2 mph

stock sprockets at 3500 rpm = fast as fvck
big sprockets at 3500 rpm = nice and slow

if you use hellatious gearing and are about to change over to
milder gearing you will have to turn the idle down in order to go the same nice and slow speed
Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

Ah yes I agree you'd go fast as f**k, but I think the bike will stall out with stock gears with low idle.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

I have not yet even atempted idle yet. When should u start?
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

Originally Posted by Danger_Dave
basic mathematics and basic kyle woods theory

stock sprockets the bike stalls at 800 rpms 8 mph
big sprockets the bike stalls at 800 rpms 1 or 2 mph

stock sprockets at 3500 rpm = fast as fvck
big sprockets at 3500 rpm = nice and slow

if you use hellatious gearing and are about to change over to
milder gearing you will have to turn the idle down in order to go the same nice and slow speed
i concour
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

Originally Posted by villa76
I have not yet even atempted idle yet. When should u start?

how high are you bringing your wheelies? And how much are you slowing them down? And how much do you know brake control?

If your getting cloes to scraping tail, rocking wheelies steady at under 20mph, and you got brake control on LOCK, then go for it.. crank that idle to 3-3.5k and try it out
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

Originally Posted by Towlieee
how high are you bringing your wheelies? And how much are you slowing them down? And how much do you know brake control?

If your getting cloes to scraping tail, rocking wheelies steady at under 20mph, and you got brake control on LOCK, then go for it.. crank that idle to 3-3.5k and try it out
..so if your ready to scrape tail you need to turn up your idle if its a throttle/brake scrape, as opposed to a coaster in which it doesnt matter correct? is that what your saying? reason im asking is because i bought a 929 a little bit ago and on my f4i i just went straight to a 12 bar and scraped that with the idle way up at like 2-3 mph with +14 gearing. but this 929 is stock so its more in the 20mph range that your taking about and im just looking to scrape tail first.

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Re: Idle Discrepancy?

You don't need idle to scrape.Coasting into it works the best,then you can scrape any speed you want.
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