Someone please correct me if im wrong, but I was alway's under the impression that a 12 o'clock wheelie isn't a scrape? Riding bast Bp in a wheelie and holding that sh*t is a 12 in my book. Not some squid slamming his minty new 12 bar into the pavement then proceding to rocket the front wheel back to earth??? Would some O.G.'s please shed some light on the subject.....

 

i don't know many people that have a bar at 12 anymore.. more like 10:30 11o'clock

 

+1

 

Thats why I rock the good ol' Round bar!

 

Scroll up 2 posts and seel Paul's avatar......that's a 12.

 

I was thinking that when watching those Level X vids, kyle kept saying about the bike being at 12 and so on.. but the tail was miles away from the floor! if thats right then I've 12'ed it easily , look at my avatar... but I haven't scraped the bar yet so wonder if 12 and scrape are the same thing cos I always thought a 12 was when you scrape

 

Thats what im getting at... 12 is NOT when you scrape! Which is what most people think. It's a controlled wheelie past Bp when your holding speed.

 

If Your Rollin 2 Mph Your At 12 ! Its Just The Point Of No Power And No Brake.. If Your Past It Thats A Highspeed Coaster Riding The Brake The Whole Time.

 

12 don't matter if you scrape or not. I always thought if your front and rear axils are vertically in-line then you are at 12 (one axil directly above the other). Like if you were to run into a wall both tires should hit evenly and at the same time.

 

exactly, 12 oclock is obviously refering to being straight up and down like the hands of a clock when at 12. ppl are always going to interpret things differently but in reality it doesnt make a difference if your at power, on break, coasting, scraping bar(if your bar sits that low) when your axles are in line verticaly that is officially 12 oclock. but most new riders call slamming into the scrape bar a 12 oclock.

 

thats what I think also

 

well im a complete idiot i thought my avatar was an highchairscrape at 12 oclock..................but i just relized i did it around 6:30........ i feel like a dummy

 

how do you figure? The bike's not pointed strait up

 

Ok Say Your In A Wheelie Going Supper Slow And Stop It And Hold It. The Balance Point. Feel That.. Thats 12 Oclock. 12 Is Just A Better Way Of Saying Balance Wheelie.. Cuz That Sounds Like Something You Do In Gymnastics or Something.. 12er . Not Axels Strait Up And Down.. Thats Crazy. Thats A Scraper. Or People Parking There Bikes For Photos = Gay

 

A 12: is when your past BP ................

 

youre an idiot. a balance wheelie is a balance wheelie. bp is at many diff angles for the speed youre going. 12 oclock is straight up and down. a scrape is a scrape most bikes dont scrape untill theyre beyond straight up and down(12). regardless if you have a bar set exactly at 12 or if ur scraping plastic way beyond 12 "12" refers to a position pointed straight up.

 

12:


BP

 

that top one is past 12... nice!

 

yah top one is not 12 thats like 1 oclock scraping. 12 is straight up jsut like a CLOCK hand at 12 hahah i dont understand the difficulty in grasping the concept.

 

I dont think you get the concept... a 12 is anything past BP...