i kinda just figure thats how it is..it makes sense u gootta pull the foot break out of the way!

 

I think you're also mis-understanding my findings...

Cause I see the footpedal standing in a position when i let go of the foot pedal... It stays there...
When I hit the HB it moves a little bit up, and after that stands there... And then also the HB is hard.

So when the foot pedal was the lower position, the foot brake works well, but when you hit the HB, it moves a bit up, and then it stays there, and the Hb is good...

I know the foot pedal will always move around, I know that, but not in the way I'm talking about...

Cause I see that the pedal is also moving around when the HB is solid ! I see that, and understand that's normal... But what I'm trying to explain is different... Cause the position of the foot pedal changes 1 time, and after that stays that way...

 

Just get used to it..
Or mount a 2nd caliper..
But i dont see it as a problem, just go out training insted of making this looong posts haha

 

I'm running an 06 GSXR 1000 radial and it doesn't NEED a pump but the first time u grab it, it's not as hard but by the second time u hit it, it's hard. I also run GP tech.

 

im using fullthrottle,the 1000rr radial is to manly for my underarms dont like it...

 

if your rotor is a little warped it will push the piston back in the caliper and will require a single pump to return the pads against the rotor if thats not the problem then lube the inside of the foot brake lever and use anew return spring and if that doesnt work bleed it the old school way open the bleeder place finger on it apply pressure and pump pump pump brake fluid should spray out without any air bubblesand your finger should keep air from entering the open bleeder valve if that dont work you need anew master good luck post the results so i know if it worked

 

its not mushy!

 

thought about my offer?

 

Same here

 

Okay so many peeps have this problem, is there a way to solve this ?

 

i had the same prob.. couldn't figure it out.. kept bleeding the line from the master.. then i bled it from the lever.. all fixed

 

I looked at mine yesterday and my pedal doesnt move at all.

Your problem is air in the line somewhere

 

If you're pedal doesn't moves, then that's the reason why you don't have the problem I truly believe it's not air, but it's the fact that when I reach for the HB and push it, the first thing that happens is:

It pushes the footbrake pedal up, before it is building up pressure...

 

it's because the piston in the foot brake master has to be fully forced down to the bottom of it's bore (bottomed out) for the handbrake to be able to put it's full pressure back to the caliper . brake systems work on thousands of pounds of pressure and if there is any slack in the system it's gonna have to fill up that slack first before you get full brake lever.

 

only solution is like what mooreport said, 2 calipers.

 

read post 26!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

great old school way of bleading and agreed that if the rotor is warped a bit it would push piston in a bit, BUT if the rotor was warped you would also have the spongy foot pedal. it would be like rocking a long coaster using the back brake pedal, and then doing some burnouts and then popping it back up for a wheelie that foot pedal would have the same sponge as they are talking about in the hb lever. so if you are not getting sponge in between using the foot brake then it's not a warped rotor. read my first post again.

 

i read your first post mike but wouldnt the spring solve that

 

it would help a little, but if the spring pulls the foot brake to the top, there could still be more drop to the piston in the foot brake, and if there is then it's going to transmit the braking force to the pivot and the mounting point on the foot brake lever which equals a little sponge till it takes up any slack left.

 

Mine also don't move up.
Just looked at it.
but i do have to pump it one time before i can use it to the max