ok...whats the best thing to ride and learn on ??? a xr 50?? a 125cc pit bike??? a 450??? **** on a bike is expensive..and dangerious when you wreck...i wanna learn a little easier...so when im pushing myself i dont brake somethig i cant afford...Please gimmie your input..thanks:YEAH

 

get a 50. I learned how to use the back brake on it ... best lesson you can get. Then moving to a big bike is much easier and less dangerous

 

haha man..i know back brake really good...im doing idle **** right now..bp spreaders with no handbrake..and all that junk.i want a bike to learn how to dip into circles...you think a 450 motard is a good idea/??? like a honda of somekind???

 

+1 well help you're rear brake tons

 

Why not use your bike?

 

use what you got, 2nd bike just for O's is plain stupid expense, you can just buy parts and fix all damage from the price you will pay for other bike...

 

not just for O's..for everything something else to stunt if my other bike gets ****ed up to bad

 

get another 600, problem solved.

 

ok, but still....I don't know, if you can afford it and really think that you need it do it. But I don't see need for such thing. Your gixx is a good stunter...

 

drz 400 actually get a 250

 

Use your bike and take your time. Approach riding like school. You gotta finish first grade before moving on to 2nd. You gotta do algebra before you understand the mechanics behind calculus.....Riding is no different. Everybody wants to enroll and immediately graduate. This is why most people destroy their bikes in the learning phase. If you take your time and realize that even if you master everything tomorrow, where are you going to go from there? Embrace the learning period. There is no shame in taking a long time to learn something. It took me an entire summer to learn how to 12. Like 8 months. Ashamed? Nope, but I'll bet I've thrown up more 12's learning than most people have their whole "career." There is no replacement for seat time when learning a trick. Trust me, you learn more from doing things wrong than you do from learning them right. If you skip the learning phase, you'll most likely only be able to perform when everything is perfect.

 

I agree with this (even though I'm WAYYYY less experienced). I still haven't learned circles yet, or really dedicated time to them, but there are people who've been stunting a little longer than I have who can't do a spreader or a highchair for anything, but they CAN do circles (no stoppies)! baby steps

 

If you can already 12 no problem, get an f4i. If not, get an f2 for a thousand bux to learn to 12 on.

 

how about this solution... don't try circles because YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THEM YET!!! You just learned idle, you can't do any idle tricks, yet you try to dip into circles, whoop de fvckin da you can do a 180, who can't, it's easy.. and if you spin once around, that's not doing circles.. you have to consistantly have 4 or around there to be doing circles, and since you're nto ready for them, all you're going to do is fvckin ruin your bike.. get a clue, and learn all the other tricks first!

 

Are you talking to me?

 

i spin over 180 i almost ge ta complete 360....not only that i hardly ever try ti dip into them hard. the question was about stunting something else than my gixxer...i kinda watned to get a 450 for soething as a backupbike..something to learn other stuff on...sometihing new to ride..something i can take in dirt and good off on too..it will be easier for me to learn longer stoppies on this..it will teach me how to steer easier because the front wheel isnt as big so it turns easier..it will teach me how to move my body and stuff..no sense in some people freaking out on me MIKE!!!!

 

thanks for your input ut i wanted something else otther than another bike to learn stuff on like a 450 they look fun....not only that to many people wudl ****ing bug me to ride the other bike and i cant afford insurence on another bike.

 

just try to learn on ur bike...but if u got the extra money get the 450...im savin up my money for a 450 and makin it motard!

 

Then get a 50. There is only balance and brake control on a 50. You can't gas out of anything. It's super small, and if you can do circles with the knobbies, you're already pro status. The concepts are the same with every bike, but geometry, power and weight are the only difference. A 50 is great for balance, but horrible for throttle control. You can't lean into a circle on a 50 unless you're flying wide circles, so it teaches you to be on top of the bike and make adjustments under you much like the big bike.. Soooooooo many people who claim to be "good" riders can't ride a 50 to save their lives. If you're going to invest in something else, that would be my suggestion. You can get xr70's cheaper and they fit a little better. A 450 is absolutely overkill if you ask me....Plus you run the risk of never riding your streetbike if you motard that thing out. You'll like it too much.

 

haha man...id still ride my gixxer... but on a 50 its like its so small..im to big for one i tried sitting on one and it wasnt happening im 6'1 170 pounds..no manual clutch...